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Old 03-01-06 | 08:24 PM
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One Tree Hill, 3/1/06

Well I certainly didn't see that end coming.

As for the rest of the episode, it turned out better than I thought it would.
Old 03-01-06 | 09:15 PM
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That SOB Dan. You have to love him.
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I didn't really care for the hostage situation part of the episode. The ending was a surprise, I'll give them that. But only because it seemed entirely out of the blue. I'm assuming Dan still thinks Keith tried to kill him, cuz there's no other reason for him to shoot the dude. But if that's the case, what was up with the scene in the park last episode?
Old 03-01-06 | 09:37 PM
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That SOB Dan. You have to love him.
True Dat. Nice ending, even if I did puke a little in my mouth during Mouth's speech.
Old 03-01-06 | 11:39 PM
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I have never been more annoyed with a show...they had a good opportunity to take a very serious turn and produce a quality episode. Instead, they spent a full hour preaching to us and making every possible excuse to take some of the blame off these twisted little f***ers that shoot up schools.

According to the wisdom of OTH, none of it is really their fault. The blame all lies on the OTHER students. blech.

I have a feeling this is all gonna be SOMEBODY'S dream.
Old 03-01-06 | 11:51 PM
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I have never been more annoyed with a show...they had a good opportunity to take a very serious turn and produce a quality episode. Instead, they spent a full hour preaching to us and making every possible excuse to take some of the blame off these twisted little f***ers that shoot up schools.
It's been a really bad middle third of the season. The characters are annoyingly inconsistent. One week Dan is a conniving SOB. The next week he's reconciling with Keith. Suddenly tonight he guns down the dude. Rachel goes from acting all slutty around Lucas to suddenly thinking she's too good for him. Then she sets her sights on Mouth of all people until that storyline is seemingly abandoned. Keith finally comes back after being away for so long......only to go out like a chump tonight. And don't get me started on Peyton and her mom.

Where the writers really screwed up with tonight's episode was not building up "fatass" all season long. Yeah, he'd show up every once in a while, but that was for all of 5 seconds. Suddenly last episode he's thrown right into the middle of everything which did nothing more than telegraph tonight's events.
Old 03-02-06 | 06:08 AM
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He didn't have that "I could shoot up a school" look.

He had that "I could eat a box of dounuts" look.

A little too heavy handed on the message. Some craptastic acting. Otherwise not a bad episode.

Great ending.
Old 03-02-06 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by antennaball
I have a feeling this is all gonna be SOMEBODY'S dream.
What I really would like to see is Keith popping back up and both of them sharing a laugh, I think that would fit in with the randomness this season.

"Haha, that was a good one Danny!"

"Sorry Keith, I just wanted to test out that bullet-proof vest I made you wear."
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So when will we get a new episode? I didn't see any previews after the episode ended.
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I hate to criticize any piece (movie, show, song, whatever) where someone is trying to teach/enlighten, but I have to.

Payton (I still never learned how to spell her name) had some really really awful acting. I know she was wounded and her mental state was supposed to be questionable, but it really hit me that Hilarie Burton is eye candy with no acting chops.

Keith calling Jim "son" over and over again, while I know it was serving a purpose was equally as teeth gritting. He just sounded weird doing it. Like it was forced.

The part reedeming the show - in regards to not being drab was the ending. I was groaning when Keith went in, thinking oh no there goes one of my favorite characters. Then comes Jimmy killing himself and I think, "Okay, not unpredictable, but at least Keith lives." But Dan shooting Keith. Amazing. I didn't see it coming from anywhere. And while I don't put it past Dan, that is probably the ballsiest thing I've seen done on TV in recent memory.

I think the episode was carried out well, not nearly as groanworthy as I expected. I just home Keith is alright and somehow Dan gets nailed.
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Next week is a rerun

The Wind That Blew My Heart Away

Wednesday, Mar 8 8/7c

A violent rainstorm knocks out the power in Tree Hill, leading Haley (Bethany Joy Lenz) to Nathan's (James Lafferty) doorstep and Brooke (Sophia Bush) out into the downpour for a dramatic confrontation with Lucas (Chad Michael Murray). Peyton (Hilarie Burton) finally confronts the truth about Ellie's (guest star Sheryl Lee) illness, while Mouth (Lee Norris) is tempted by his new friend, Rachel (Danneel Harris). Before morning, secrets are revealed, relationships are tested, and new love gets hotter than ever. Paul Johansson, Barbara Alyn Woods, Barry Corbin and Moira Kelly also star.
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I'm not so long out of High School, and what these kids are going through wasn't remotely what was happening at my school. Granted I grew up in a very liberal/diverse area (SF Bay what what!), so my views are probably the extreme positive side of the argument. The so-called nerds at my HS ran the place. The artists and goths and what not had massive friend circles. And there really weren't "cliques". The Jocks/nerds/whatever else grouping you can name all hung out together. I know I can't be completely all inclusive, but when I was a senior I could name my whole class by face. And it isn't like I spent nights studying my yearbooks.

Does stuff like this (not the shooting but the bullying and outcasting) actually happen elsewhere? If it does, I'd probably be one of the nameless few. Not saying I'd shoot up the place, but if I was picked on all through HS I honestly couldn't say what would happen.

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I didn't really care for the hostage situation part of the episode. The ending was a surprise, I'll give them that. But only because it seemed entirely out of the blue. I'm assuming Dan still thinks Keith tried to kill him, cuz there's no other reason for him to shoot the dude. But if that's the case, what was up with the scene in the park last episode?
I think the part where Keith hugs Karen calling Luke their son right in front of Dan was the snap. Whether or not they reconciled (and they didn't it was more of a mutual I f**k you, I'm f**ked), Dan still hated Keith (for Deb, Karen, and Luke).
Originally Posted by Doughboy
Where the writers really screwed up with tonight's episode was not building up "fatass" all season long. Yeah, he'd show up every once in a while, but that was for all of 5 seconds. Suddenly last episode he's thrown right into the middle of everything which did nothing more than telegraph tonight's events.
That's what I was thinking. If they brought some semblance of him being actually at the school for any of the last 2 seasons the show would have been a lot more worthy. But the way it was done, put the viewers in a "so what?" state. We don't know the guy, we don't care so much about him.

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Yeah, the spoiler isn't really needed. But since this thread is about the most recent episode, I thought it would be better. More conjecture than spoiler ;-P

Spoiler:
Wonder if they will use the shooting to create a series finale. Sure looks like an opportunity to make Dan pay. Peyton and Lucas from the beginning of the series, was played as the couple meant to be together.
This is most likely the last season and many shows in a similar predicament are filming alternate season/series endings (everwood).
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Originally Posted by Ayre
Spoiler:
This is most likely the last season and many shows in a similar predicament are filming alternate season/series endings (everwood).
Why? Because of the merger?
Old 03-02-06 | 02:35 PM
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That and poor ratings ... although "many" was the wrong word. Sorry :-)

Edit:

NOTE: The following is about Everwood and a different production company.

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Berlanti just signed a deal with TouchstoneTV.

From TVGuide.com:

Question: Any additional news on Everwood? Is this the last season? — Whitney

Ausiello: A decision isn't expected until May, but exec producer Rina Mimoun isn't leaving anything to chance. She tells me that she's prepping "two different endings for our show so that fans will not be disappointed if the worst happens. We would never leave without saying a proper goodbye!" Let's hope it doesn't come to that.


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Old 03-02-06 | 02:56 PM
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That and poor ratings ... although "many" was the wrong word. Sorry :-)
That, poor ratings, and the fact that the show has gotten progressively worse since Season 1. Now they killed off one of the best characters(and in a cheap and contrived manner). That's always the sign of a series being desperate and on its last legs.
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good episode imo. i actually cursed at the tv when dan killed kieth. since our local affiliate had an acc game on after the show, they actually started the commercials right in the middle of "the important announcement", which i kind of found humorous.
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Originally Posted by Ayre
That and poor ratings ... although "many" was the wrong word. Sorry :-)

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NOTE: The following is about Everwood and a different production company.

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Berlanti just signed a deal with TouchstoneTV.

From TVGuide.com:

Question: Any additional news on Everwood? Is this the last season? — Whitney

Ausiello: A decision isn't expected until May, but exec producer Rina Mimoun isn't leaving anything to chance. She tells me that she's prepping "two different endings for our show so that fans will not be disappointed if the worst happens. We would never leave without saying a proper goodbye!" Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

I hope OTH doesn't get the axe. While the show isn't excellent, it is at least not bad and it is continually not bad, unlike a lot of the other crap on the channel. If it does get cut it better be after Charmed, Related, 7th Heaven, and every sitcom on the channel. And it isn't like UPN is going to be bringing much to the new channel. They should shelve everything but VM and EHC.
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Dan is really now an unredeemable bastiche.

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