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Kal-El 01-27-06 04:31 PM

Everybody keeps mentioning the homage to Superman: The Movie but I don't think anybody's mentioned the S:III homage -- turning a lump of coal into a diamond.

Red Dog 01-27-06 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Kal-El
Everybody keeps mentioning the homage to Superman: The Movie but I don't think anybody's mentioned the S:III homage -- turning a lump of coal into a diamond.


I think most have tried to forget Superman III. I know I have.

riley_dude 01-27-06 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
I think most have tried to forget Superman III. I know I have.

Ditto.

BlackCapTen 01-27-06 10:08 PM

I can't wait for an homage to Superman IV. Then again, maybe there's already been one. I don't remember much from IV.

Simply an "ok" epsiode of Smallville, I expected more, especially after seeing the preview for next week.

PopcornTreeCt 01-27-06 11:38 PM

Good episode. It's a shame we'll probably never see Tom Welling don the red cape. As the the new movie looks like teh suck big time.

huzefa 01-27-06 11:50 PM

I used to think the movie looks sucky too, but now I'm not so sure. Singer's done a pretty good job with the Xmen franchise and The Usual Suspects. He picked Hugh Jackman for Wolverine, who was just as much of an unknown at the time, and that worked out pretty good. But my biggest reason for changing my mind about Tom Welling having to be in the movie, is that it would just be really strange for him to be talking to a different Lex, a different Lois, a different Ma Kent. To not make it awkward, they would need to put the entire cast of the show in the movie, and nobody's going to watch Smallville the Movie (other than us of course, but nobody else). So I'm going to sit back and wait for this movie and hopefully enjoy it.

kiddk1 01-28-06 12:34 PM

Why, why did they have to kill off Bo Duke, he didnt die in the series Lois and Clark.

DeputyDave 01-28-06 12:35 PM

I don't see why Tom can't wear "the suit" in Smallville. I would really like to see an entire season showing Clark's first atempts at being Superman, the people and media reaction, learning what he should and shouldn't do, etc.

Unless there are rights issues with the name "Superman" that I don't know about.

dvd-4-life 01-28-06 12:48 PM

Since Clark doesn't wear glasses everyone in Smallville would know that Clark was Superman.

Darknite39 01-28-06 01:09 PM

Good point. What if he simply moved so fast he couldn't be IDed...or got a haircut? That'd surely fool 'em.

das Monkey 01-28-06 01:39 PM

See, that's the big twist. <i>Superman</i> wears glasses! Think of the added strength to his heat vision! It's brilliant!!! I'm submitting it as a proposal for Episode #200.

das

Darknite39 01-28-06 01:48 PM

This ep wasn't the best, I agree, but I don't see how some of you can be so harsh without seeing how things do change in the series as a result of the events that took place in this portion of the story. I remain cautiously optimistic.

SmithsGuy 01-28-06 03:13 PM

Better story eh?
 

Originally Posted by Terrell
The problem is this. The episode achieved nothing except killing off Jonathan Kent, which we all know was probably going to happen. I never really believed Lana would die. But the problem I have is nothing else changed with the characters other than Pa Kent dying. We're just back to square one. Now if the writers would like to have Clark and Lana break up for good and further the romance with Lois, that's one thing. But you know we'll get another season at least of Clark and Lana doing the same old shit. Hell, I would have been happier had they just forgot about the Lana dying scenario, and just went with Clark telling her everything. Then they could break it off in the future.

yeah, why not have Clark do the same things (the proposal and such) and then stop the bus. We'd end with Clark engaged and Pa Kent dead. Could be much more interesting... otherwise, yawn, more time travel...

Ciao,
Smithsguy

mikehunt 01-28-06 03:25 PM

glad it wasn't Chloe, but it sucks that it was Jonathan
I'd read a spoiler indicating someone died but had avoiding hearing who
when Lana died I was happy, then they had to pull the time travel card

mikehunt 01-28-06 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Barry Woodward
I was hoping that after his father's death he'd decide to tell Lana the truth again. That would have saved the episode for me.

at least then he would have gotten something in return for losing his dad.
now he just got fucked two ways

mikehunt 01-28-06 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by DRG
Wow. Terrible episode, considering the build up and the importance of the events that transpired. The whole thing felt rushed, for one. The whole beginning "everything is beautiful" half hour was just to silly to be believed. Clark revealing his secret to Lana AND proposing AND Pa Kent winning the election in the course of 20 minutes was so off the mark you just knew it wasn't going to be "real".

I started to think he was in an LSD induced hallucinatory coma

Silly Burrito 01-28-06 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by dvd-4-life
Since Clark doesn't wear glasses everyone in Smallville would know that Clark was Superman.

[nerdy movie fact]If you watch Superman 3, you'll notice that Clark's high school picture has him without glasses...however, when he returns to Smallville as Superman later on in the movie, no one recognizes him as Clark. [/nerdy movie fact]

Maybe it's meteor rocks in the water supply...who knows?

Slayer2005 01-28-06 04:03 PM

Smallville has mastered the art of the cop-out. They must have really strict rules that the writers must abide by. I still enjoyed the episode (especially the first half), but I HATED the cop-out.

The episode would still be damn good (although I still wouldn't care much for the time travel.) if Smallville wasn't so known for cop-outs like this. Man, I just wanted to see what it would be like after Lana's accident (especially between Clark & Lex). Welling made it sound like it was going to be huge even that really changed things, so when I saw Lana die and Lex watch Clark run to Lana I thought that might be what he meant, but the writers didn't have the guts for that (or weren't allowed to keep it like that).

I have to give them points for not using amnesia though. I think I would've thrown up in my mouth a little had they pulled the amnesia card again. :)

The episode could've been one of the best they've ever done had they stuck with the death of Lana. It would seem a bit cliche` that Lana would die right after Clark tells her everything and asks her to marry him though. However, that event would be a huge event that would change everything.

mikehunt 01-28-06 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by ytrez
Obviously not, but what I never understood was why people who haven't watched a show, and who will be pissed by having it spoiled, bother to read threads about said show???

which is exactly why I didn't start reading the thread until today

Legolas 01-28-06 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Good episode. It's a shame we'll probably never see Tom Welling don the red cape. As the the new movie looks like teh suck big time.


Why would anyone want to weigh down the big screen Superman movie with all the crappy writing and freaks-of-the-week of Smallville?

riley_dude 01-28-06 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Legolas
Why would anyone want to weigh down the big screen Superman movie with all the crappy writing and freaks-of-the-week of Smallville?

I think the comment was about Welling not the writing of Smallville.
Count me in as another who feels Tom Welling should have gotten the Big Screen gig.


We're just back to square one. Now if the writers would like to have Clark and Lana break up for good and further the romance with Lois, that's one thing. But you know we'll get another season at least of Clark and Lana doing the same old shit.
I agree. Ughhh

:horse:

Rogue588 01-28-06 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Slayer2005
Man, I just wanted to see what it would be like after Lana's accident (especially between Clark & Lex). Welling made it sound like it was going to be huge even that really changed things, so when I saw Lana die and Lex watch Clark run to Lana I thought that might be what he meant, but the writers didn't have the guts for that (or weren't allowed to keep it like that).

Imagine how fucking cool that would've been...

-ohbfrank- stupid writers -ohbfrank-

candyrocket786 01-28-06 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue588
Imagine how fucking cool that would've been...

-ohbfrank- stupid writers -ohbfrank-


That would have been spectacular! Too bad they fucked it up :mad:

Now we're back to filler/FOTW

LorenzoL 01-29-06 04:54 PM

Finally watched the episode.

Personally, I enjoyed the first half of the episode but the second half was just dissapointing.

So what I would like to know is if the subsequent episodes will be "fillers" until the return of
Spoiler:
Brainiac and General Zod?

Terrell 01-29-06 07:16 PM


And Tom Welling while a fine Superboy, is no Superman. Maybe he's slightly altering his voice to sound younger, but when he talks, I don't hear Superman.
Far better than Routh.


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