View Poll Results: Is David E. Kelly the Most Overrated Producer in the Last Decade?
Yes, He's a Hack and Chancer
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23.33%
Yes, But He's a Decent Writer if He Wants to Be
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50.00%
No, He's Not a Overrated Producer
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26.67%
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Is David E. Kelly the Most Overrated Producer in the Last Decade?
01-13-06, 05:54 PM
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Is David E. Kelly the Most Overrated Producer in the Last Decade?
I have no serious problems with David E. Kelly, but I do think he is a highly overrated TV writer and producer in the last ten years or so, despite having his occasional moments of brilliance (Picket Fences was an excellent series that never really went downhill). I just found many of TV shows to be sub-par, despite their promising opening episodes.
Ally McBeal was just a farce that went by on it's publicity rather than it's (non-existent) quality writing. And Boston Public was a decent series to begin with, plus it had a very solid cast line up, but it was already spiralling into mediocrity by time it was moving on from Season One into Season Two. Of course David E. Kelly tried to salvage the situation by scooping up Michael Rapaport and Jeri Ryan, but even that could not salvage the series in the long term.
And I've seen Season Two of Boston Legal and that show too is showing early signs of sinking into the grave. Although if David E. Kelly could play it smart and bring Boston Legal up to speed again by it's third season, but since he is a dodger that drops his shows quite often (like he dropped Boston Public in it's third season) so I wouldn't really count on it.
Although David E. Kelly could be a good writer if he focuses his mind, most of the time I think he is a overrated producer and hack writer that sinks his shows too often.
What do you think?
Ally McBeal was just a farce that went by on it's publicity rather than it's (non-existent) quality writing. And Boston Public was a decent series to begin with, plus it had a very solid cast line up, but it was already spiralling into mediocrity by time it was moving on from Season One into Season Two. Of course David E. Kelly tried to salvage the situation by scooping up Michael Rapaport and Jeri Ryan, but even that could not salvage the series in the long term.
And I've seen Season Two of Boston Legal and that show too is showing early signs of sinking into the grave. Although if David E. Kelly could play it smart and bring Boston Legal up to speed again by it's third season, but since he is a dodger that drops his shows quite often (like he dropped Boston Public in it's third season) so I wouldn't really count on it.
Although David E. Kelly could be a good writer if he focuses his mind, most of the time I think he is a overrated producer and hack writer that sinks his shows too often.
What do you think?
01-13-06, 06:25 PM
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It's hard for him to be overrated when so many of his shows have such negative reactions. Pretty much what you said seems to be the general opinion of him. I disagree somewhat since I think Ally was superbly written and executed even in the later seasons. The only show of his that seems overrated to me is Boston Legal. I like Shatner and Spader, but the rest of the show is a total mess.
01-13-06, 10:19 PM
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The way I see it, he makes good shows but it's when he starts believing his own hype that the shows suffer. That's when he just has to change something, thus comes the downward spiral of crap with his shows. Some start early (Boston Legal), some start later on (The Practice, Ally McBeal).
01-14-06, 04:57 AM
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Posted by Nick Martin: Why another David E.Kelley poll?
I love going over the same kind of subject, over, over, over and over again...like flogging a dead horse!
01-14-06, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DRG
For all the hits he's had, he does have quite a few misses.. Snoops, Girls Club, Brotherhood of Poland NH, Ally (1/2 hour version), The Law Firm.
Yeah, that's why I might call him overrated, although from what I heard Snoops was pretty good (I never saw it). Not because his successes are overrated (although I think Ally might be). The Practice was a great show the first 3 years and Boston Legal has been fantastic. The bookend seasons of Boston Public were good.
Picket Fences and L.A. Law (where he was the principle writer for years) were 2 of the best shows ever.
Most overrated? John Wells without a doubt.
01-14-06, 06:55 PM
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David E. Kelly and Les Moonves should get together
It would be UNSTOPPABLE!!!
It would be UNSTOPPABLE!!!
01-14-06, 08:15 PM
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In television, the writers/producer call the shots and assume the most responsibility for a show's quality, since they have final say over a show's long-term direction. A TV director, unlike in feature film, is really a hired gun who must manage a pre-set production (and script over which they have little input) with a style that fits within the confines of the established show.
01-14-06, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by filmerp
In television, the writers/producer call the shots and assume the most responsibility for a show's quality, since they have final say over a show's long-term direction. A TV director, unlike in feature film, is really a hired gun who must manage a pre-set production (and script over which they have little input) with a style that fits within the confines of the established show.
01-14-06, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cancer Man
Because I can!!!
I love going over the same kind of subject, over, over, over and over again...like flogging a dead horse!
I love going over the same kind of subject, over, over, over and over again...like flogging a dead horse!
I noticed...Endless Voyager/Boston Public/Jeri Ryan threads and polls.
01-14-06, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason
Nah, you're thinking of Joss Whedon.
(ducks multiple flying objects)
(ducks multiple flying objects)
01-15-06, 02:00 AM
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I dislike his style of throwing in his personal political crap and presenting it poorly, but I don't think I would say that makes him overrated....just annoying.
