I don't recall anybody saying he would go scot free. It seemed to me that the concern was that this would damage the case because they wouldn't be able to show the tapes to the jury, begging the argument by defense counsel at the end about why the jury wouldn't be seeing them and/or making the police look very bad and therefore damaging the credibility of any LEOs who might take the stand.

Based on my recollection of events and my understanding of fictional law, the charges likely pending against him would be attempted murder or malicious wounding times two against Veronica and Keith, murder against Lilly, and abduction against Veronica. The murder really is the star there -- the malicious wounding/attempted murder and abduction charges combined likely wouldn't send him away for as long as that one charge would.

ETA -- There may also be charges that could be filed based on his B&E into the home where he and Veronica ended up and whatever assault/malicious wounding/etc charges they could file based on his attack of the homeowner.

I think when Keith was saying a conviction wouldn't be likely he was talking about getting Logan for having the tapes. It will definitely hurt the case against Aaron but not kill it. The actions he took to try and get the tapes by trying to torch Veronica and beating the crap out of Keith won't do much to discredit the people testifying to what's on the tapes.

Good point. I just assumed it was obvious he was talking about prosecuting Logan and Leo.

I really didn't miss Wallace when he was "away" but I was glad to see him show up at Veronica's doorstep at the end. The only bad thing may be that his annoying "ex" will probably be appearing again.

I'll be surprised if Leo appears on the show but then again this is "Veronica Mars" and anything can happen.

I still say that it will be hard for Veronica to do anything significant for Meg's baby against Meg's parents unless she will be helping Duncan gain custody. When Keith told Veronica that Meg died, my first thought was if her parents had anything to do with it.

I did not like what happened to Lilly's tape and how Logan destroyed it but I have faith on the writers of this show that they know what they are doing.

I really hope he does show up again. He was my favorite of Veronica's season 1 boyfriends. Maybe Keith gains control of the sheriff's office again and rehires him (with a promise of a no more shenanigans, no matter how good intentioned).

I don't think it's remotely possible Leo gets another law enforcement job. If there is potential for him in the future, I think it is as somebody Keith takes under his wing and uses on investigations. I believe the actor who plays Leo has something cooking right now that makes it tough for him to appear, though.

Actually, I thought it seemed like Keith wrote up the report so that Leo would be able to get another job. He made it seem like Leo just screwed up, not necessarily did something criminal. That being said I doubt we'll be seeing him again, seemed like his story's been wrapped up.

I think that was more about him not seeing the inside of a prison than about preserving his career as a LEO. I suppose it would depend greatly on the exact circumstances, but I would think being fired for cause from your last LEO job would be a giant red flag. When the HR department inquires about it and hears it is about losing evidence in a very important investigation, I'd think that flag just gets bigger.

IT WAS THE TODD! Also nice to see Mama Barksdale from The Wire too.

Who is the Todd?

A character from "Scrubs".

Edit - Let me make that more clear. One of the jurors in the trial is the actor that plays "The Todd" in Scrubs.

My Wife and I looked at each other at the same time and said "Jury Duty?"
I have never heard of a High School kid getting Jury duty. 18 or not.
And if she did get a summons why would the school let her out for so many days?
Other than that I enjoyd the episode very much.

Yeah, but Veronica does have the shitiest luck. I mean, her best friend was murdered, she was dumped by her boyfriend, her dad lost his job and she lost all her friends in the course of a month. Plus she thought she was raped.

Getting called on jury duty the very first moment she was eligible almost seems like par for the course for poor Veronica.

I did wonder about getting out of school. I would think school would be a valid excuse to get out of it, but who knows, she probably liked doing jury duty rather than sitting in class.

I thought they established that she was on winter break from school. Didn't they?

They did.

Yep. It was noted that she was on winter break. School was out.

I must have missed that.

I love this show, they make it really hard to pick apart.

Ok, so I got hooked on the show after watching the first season on DVD, but only after I had missed the first half dozen episodes of the new season. I didn't want to jump into the season midstream, and spoil those missed eps with a 30 second "previously on", so after weeks of scavenging I got all 10 aired eps and have watched them over the last few days. Upside is I finally get to participate in these threads instead of ruefully avoiding them.

So instead of posting 10 eps worth of comments here or bumping 10 other threads I'll just throw out a few random thoughts...

I'm disappointed with the new opening credits. For one thing they have too many characters in there like Wallace's girlfriend and the Beave, who have been in less than half the episodes. Less small frys, more shots of Kristen, please. Especially that shot from last year's intro where she is walking down the hall in the green hoody looking over her shoulder..come on now sugar.

Also, I've entirely given up on trying to figure out the season long mysteries. There is just too much stuff going on. The bus accident w/ the Irish mob/drug connections, Meg's pregnancy, family issues and probable murder, Little miss Koontz's murder. Plus you have Wallace's situation, Dick, Beaver and Charisma C's situation, and you know something is up with Steve Guttenburg. I'm having a hard time keeping up, so forget trying to figure out what's going to happen. I'm just going to wait until Veronica figures it out and then explains it to me..like I'm 5 years old.

Which brings me to the writing. The plotlines are ok, not quite up to last years standard, there are a lot of loose ends that I'm hoping for some resolution to, but the dialog definitely still has that quick humor and wit, so I'm happy.

Thoughts on this episode:
I agree with Jimmy James that that was some sad jury..ing going on. Using some reasonable deductions and guesswork to reach a Not Guilty verdict is one thing, but it's hard to overcome reasonable doubt with such speculation. Of course, if they had gone the other way it would have been too much of a 12 Angry Men rippoff.

Then we have the tape mystery. I'm not sure if we were suppose to suspect Leo after his first interview, since he said security was lax, which is just what the thief would like Keith Mars to think. I was thrown off because the two people they showed saying security was tight was the sheriff, who is a scumbag, but seemed honest during his talk with Keith and the other deputy who Mars undercut by saying he was towing the company line. Plus, it seems forced to have Leo do it, he was just too much of a nice guy. Not only was he risking his job, and weakening the case against someone who tried to kill Veronica, but he would be releasing video of a murdered underage girl in the sack, which is despicable on a lot of levels. Also, they say he stole the originals and all copies. Obviously if his motive were purely financial he didn't need to steal the backups. In fact, if he had just stolen one set the case wouldn't have been hurt and it would have been less obvious that it was an inside job.

Favorite scene had to be the Xmas dinner scene, although the editing was sloppy, Bell looked adorable in the elf hat and almost every one of Enrico's lines was great.

My situation is simular to yours except I have not finished season 1 and am only half way through it. Unfortunately I don't have the means to find the episodes that have already aired. Would it be advisable to tune in next week and see what has been going on thus far and try and catch up with the Previously on?

lol, amen to that.

Finish the first season and wait for the second season to go into reruns...My wife and I started watching VM at the beginning of this current season and we were pretty lost but stuck with it and we were glad we did. But we just finished the 1st season on dvd and now I wish I could go back at the begininng of this season because alot more would make sense and I feel like Ive missed a little in this season so far. BTW, this is my favortie show and it better be back for one more season. The last 2 eps of season 1 were some of the best TV Ive ever watched. Eventhough I knew who the killer was, it was still great imo.

they have already started the reruns. the next episode to air is episode 4

Yes, no doubt finish Season 1 first. Even if you decide to start watching this season and have to miss/postpone watching a new episode when they start airing in January. If you are reading this thread then you have been spoiled to some extent so it's hard to say if you should jump in to the new season. The Previously On's will usually focus on one or two of several ongoing arcs, and if the episode only deals with those stories then you are OK, but more often than not there are a few scenes that deal with other stuff that will totally go over your head. Then again some episodes focus on the mystery of the week and only briefly touch on season arcs. I imagine the show is aware that new people will be coming on after the midseason break so they will probably review things a bit when the show picks backup. Plus just refreshing viewers memory after the long break, so it's probably not a bad time to jump on. I recall being annoyed at times when they would retread things so much with Veronica's voice over in season one.

It wasn't nearly enough to spoil the marathon sessions and this show is perfect for that kind of viewing. This season, more so than last, they seem to be doing an excellent job of putting a big hook at the end of the show that makes you want to fire up the next one immediately. This last episode was really the first one I saw where I didn't have the next episode ready to go. Fortunately the ending wasn't too frustrating. The ending of the episode before this one really got me, I would have really been jonesing after that one.

@all

I knew I would forget something in my list of Season 2 plots. I forgot to include the Logan/Weevil situation, which is probably just behind the bus as the season's biggest mystery.

was cool to see the the todd in the jury room, and didn't notice barksdale's mom (from the wire) til the previous poster said it.

couple questions:

why did the writers have wallace leave for like 5 or so episodes? was it just part of the story, or did the actor who plays wallace have some other show to do?

couldn't the sheriff have arrested logan for buying the stolen tapes from leo? leo told keith that logan was the one who bought them, and he destroyed them.. that would be tampering w/ evidence right?

a> the budget was cut for this season, and the producers couldn't afford to keep every cast member for all the episodes. Rob Thomas came out in an interview before season two started and warned the fans about this. It was either cut back their screen time (Weevil suffered as well) or lose someone entirely.

b> the weird thing for me is that I still can't quite figure out why Leo risked (and lost) his career by selling the tapes; why not just make copies and sell those? No one but Logan would need the originals.

Logan COULD HAVE been arrested, if he hadn't destroyed the evidence against himself when he erased the tapes. Unless Leo testified against Logan (which would mean him being charged as well), there wouldn't be a case against him. Keith knew, but he wasn't about to collaborate with the sheriff for no good reason.