The actress playing Casey leaked some spoilers on "Watching with Kristin." I suppose that Johnny, her boyfriend, will become a new buddy/love interest to Ryan and the revelation of his being bisexual is finally told as a shocking secret. And Ryan will go through the "sex-change" journey which Marissa suffered last year. The writers are really running out of ideas, so they even will bring back storylines of Katlin Cooper, who is replaced by a new actress.
The storylines of Charlotte and Julie are interesting, but not so intesnse like Julie's porn video scandal last season. I hope the writers will bring Carter Buckly back, so Kirsten will go mad again. Guys, we know this is "The O.C." The writers know best how to treat their characters with insanity.

That shows how fickle the suits at FOX are; if Angel could go on for four seasons with well under five million viewers and not get cancelled, then how come other shows on FOX get the axe for no reason?

Boston Public, for three seasons at least, had respectable viewing figures that were over the 10 million mark, but of course Boston Public was shifted to Friday evening and the ratings crashed. But it still held on to five million viewers, which was OK for a show shifted to a very bad time slot.

I am just curious why shows like The OC and Angel could continue on FOX with relatively low viewing figures that get shows like Boston Public or Fire Fly cancelled. Is it something to do with what rival shows The OC and Angel are up against, ratings wise, on their respective evenings?

kallen, I don't see you post here often, but really man posts like yours are not cool. I had no idea whether or not the bottom part was true or not but either way it doesn't belong here without spoilers around it.

Angel was WB, not Fox.

You're gonna need to link that source because all I have heard from that actress is the following (spoilerized)

With each passing week, I care less and less about this show. The characters just don't interest me anymore. However, I did perk up when Paula Trickey made a brief appearance as Taylor's MILF.

Who the hell knows how long ANGEL would have lasted on Fox...I for one, am glad to never know! Fox (studio) may have made the series, but I'm thankful the network never aired it.

Different networks have different definitions of 'success' - five million viewers could be a disaster for NBC, but an incredible smash hit for WB or UPN...
Fox is like that carnival game where you shoot pellets at wooden ducks for a prize...very itchy trigger fingers, and prize seems to be royally pissed off viewers.

As much as I love Firefly, Boston Public and The OC, compared to ANGEL, I wouldn't miss them in an instant.

Hell, at least Seth made his presence known again in this episode. He's been pretty ineffectual this whole season - so it's nice to finally see his character get a little play again.

Overall, though, this season's still lacking in just about everything that used to make this show enjoyable. Did they lose some of their writers, or what? When it wanted to, this show was pretty cleverly written - but I'm just not seeing/hearing it this year. As someone else, I believe, said it here before - it's like this season's just been phoned in. A very pale imitation of it's former self.

Next week (this week now) still gives me hope, though.

Sorry, my mistake. I am just wondering why a show such as The OC can have five million viewers and not get cancelled on a Monday evening, while Boston Public could still hold on to five million viewers on the very bad Friday time slot and get cancelled anyway. I wonder why the Fox suites are like that.

Talking about MILF, why has nobody mentioned the MILF overload when Kelly Rowan, Jeri Ryan and Melinda Clarke were all in the same room together?

But the "Charlotte conning money out of the dopey Kirsten" storyline still sort of sucks though...

The OC is on Thursday night, not Monday. And, as I recall, Boston Public aired mostly (when it was on) either on Monday or Tuesday -I don't remember it being on Friday - but if it did move there, that's FOX's prime death spot, so I'm sure it did help kill it.

Anyway, it's more about the overall demographic of the viewers who do watch the show - than the number. You could have less numbers viewer wise, but if those people spend more money (on the products being advertised) than it kind of evens out.

1st 3 season of BP aired on Monday. It moved to Friday for S4. Then it was canned.

Saw the previews for this week's episode last night during Prison Break.
Hopefully this week's episode doesn't disappoint.

Too bad Taylor didn't inherit her mother's looks.




This show needs more fighting, females included.

A mud/jello fight between Taylor and Summer would rule.

fixed.

I'm surprised more people in this thread aren't talking about this...

http://people.aol.com/people/article...131531,00.html

The OC doesnt have many people talking (or watching anymore). It rates second to last in it's time slot. The days of OC being a Watercooler show are over.

Why did the The OC lose so many viewers in just two short seasons? Was the decline of this show's quality really that bad?

Most people, including myself, have stopped watching.
The quality has definitely gone down.
It really used to be a fun show that never took itself too seriously. Now it's just a show is exactly what it was mocking.
Even Smallville tops it each week.

Damn I didn't even know Mischa had boobies.

Who said anything boobies? We're talking nipples. Even guys have those.


Yes. I might jump ship after tonight's show if it isn't significantly better.

I'd talk about it if I could see it.

I like this season better than last year so far, but it's still far below the quality of Season 1. They need to get better writers, more interesting characters, or maybe a combination of the two.

Nevermind. I looked at what they thought was something and I swear it is all shadow.

If they really want to be controversial or something they need to show some butts.