FX's "Over There" Cancelled
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FX Withdraws from 'Over There'
(Tuesday, November 01 02:37 PM)
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) FX's war drama "Over There" won't be redeployed for a second season, becoming a casualty of the same thing that causes most shows to be cancelled -- declining ratings.
The cable network took the unusual step Tuesday (Nov. 1) of announcing it wouldn't pick up "Over There," about a squad of inexperienced soldiers in Iraq. Typically networks don't choose to draw attention to shows that are being cancelled.
In explaining the cancellation FX chief John Landgraf takes pains to note that the "beautifully produced, acted, written and directed" show was axed solely due to the realities of the TV business, not for any creative reasons.
"That decision was motivated entirely by 'Over There's' ratings performance and our belief that the numbers were reflective of what the show is about, rather than its quality or entertainment value," Landgraf says. "While are passionately committed to fostering great television, we are an advertiser-supported network, and the size of our audience is vital to our bottom line."
"Over There" averaged 2.1 million viewers over its 13-week run, well below the levels of its other drama series. "Rescue Me" drew 2.8 million viewers per week this summer, while "The Shield" and "Nip/Tuck" each bring in more than 3 million.
After starting strong with an audience of 4.1 million people for its premiere, "Over There" dipped in subsequent weeks. It took a further hit over its final four episodes, when it aired opposite new episodes of highly rated broadcast-network shows like "CSI: NY" and "Law & Order"; during those four weeks it averaged only 1.6 million viewers.
Chris Gerolmo and Steven Bochco created "Over There," which was the first TV series to dramatize a war that was still going on while it aired. Landgraf also has kind words for them and "their immensely talented and dedicated team of collaborators, whose artistry was reflected in each episode."
(Tuesday, November 01 02:37 PM)
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) FX's war drama "Over There" won't be redeployed for a second season, becoming a casualty of the same thing that causes most shows to be cancelled -- declining ratings.
The cable network took the unusual step Tuesday (Nov. 1) of announcing it wouldn't pick up "Over There," about a squad of inexperienced soldiers in Iraq. Typically networks don't choose to draw attention to shows that are being cancelled.
In explaining the cancellation FX chief John Landgraf takes pains to note that the "beautifully produced, acted, written and directed" show was axed solely due to the realities of the TV business, not for any creative reasons.
"That decision was motivated entirely by 'Over There's' ratings performance and our belief that the numbers were reflective of what the show is about, rather than its quality or entertainment value," Landgraf says. "While are passionately committed to fostering great television, we are an advertiser-supported network, and the size of our audience is vital to our bottom line."
"Over There" averaged 2.1 million viewers over its 13-week run, well below the levels of its other drama series. "Rescue Me" drew 2.8 million viewers per week this summer, while "The Shield" and "Nip/Tuck" each bring in more than 3 million.
After starting strong with an audience of 4.1 million people for its premiere, "Over There" dipped in subsequent weeks. It took a further hit over its final four episodes, when it aired opposite new episodes of highly rated broadcast-network shows like "CSI: NY" and "Law & Order"; during those four weeks it averaged only 1.6 million viewers.
Chris Gerolmo and Steven Bochco created "Over There," which was the first TV series to dramatize a war that was still going on while it aired. Landgraf also has kind words for them and "their immensely talented and dedicated team of collaborators, whose artistry was reflected in each episode."
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I really liked it, but I'm so happy that I never have to listen to the theme song ever again.
More importantly though, with them cancelling Over There, this is the perfect time for them to reconsider their cancellation of Starved. I don't know why I ended up liking that show so much, but everytime I watch one of the new mediocre shows this season, I just think about how much I'd rather be watching Starved.
More importantly though, with them cancelling Over There, this is the perfect time for them to reconsider their cancellation of Starved. I don't know why I ended up liking that show so much, but everytime I watch one of the new mediocre shows this season, I just think about how much I'd rather be watching Starved.
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This is a shame. Although I didn't think the pilot was that great and I absolutely despised the theme song, it was able to really develop into a strong show. It definitely had a lot more stories that I could have told. I'm not shocked that it was cancelled; the handwriting was already on the wall.
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Thats too bad, but not all that suprising considering the subject matter.
The first two episodes were kind of weak but it really picked up after there. Most of the plotlines back home were a pretty over dramatic but didn't really take up too much time after the first few episodes.
Most of the acting in the sequences over in Iraq was pretty damn solid as were the battle scenes. I'm going to miss this show but again its not all that suprising it wasn't all that popular.
On another note, does anyone know what is going to happen with "its always sunny in Philadelphia"? I loved that show but missed whether it had been renewed.
The first two episodes were kind of weak but it really picked up after there. Most of the plotlines back home were a pretty over dramatic but didn't really take up too much time after the first few episodes.
Most of the acting in the sequences over in Iraq was pretty damn solid as were the battle scenes. I'm going to miss this show but again its not all that suprising it wasn't all that popular.
On another note, does anyone know what is going to happen with "its always sunny in Philadelphia"? I loved that show but missed whether it had been renewed.
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After lying about why he cancelled NYPD Blue, I'm always glad to see Bochco fail.
NYPD 2069? Gone
Blind Justice? Gone
Over There? Gone
He's currently on a successful show (Commander in Chief), but he's not the reason it's popular. Here's hoping he finds a way to kill it also.
NYPD 2069? Gone
Blind Justice? Gone
Over There? Gone
He's currently on a successful show (Commander in Chief), but he's not the reason it's popular. Here's hoping he finds a way to kill it also.
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On another note, does anyone know what is going to happen with "its always sunny in Philadelphia"? I loved that show but missed whether it had been renewed.
I liked some of the eps and a few of the cast members, but this really comes as no surprise - the show was inconsistent and mediocre at best. I have the last two eps recorded - and I have been procrastinating about when to watch them - now I won't at all.
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I liked the show, but I was disapointed by the writing. I have read a ton of stories by soldiers and writers in Iraq, and the truth has been more interesting than most episodes of OT. Maybe someone will try this again with better writing and less home front bs.
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In explaining the cancellation FX chief John Landgraf takes pains to note that the "beautifully produced, acted, written and directed" show was axed solely due to the realities of the TV business, not for any creative reasons.
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Im glad its gone. I saw the first three eps and it was basically torture. Im a sucker for war shows/movies but this one was unbearable. ANNOYING stereotypical characters, bad acting, bad soundtrack. The ONLY reason I made it to ep 3 was to see "Bull" from Band of Brothers. He made the ep good. Its a shame the show wasnt about his character.
My old man whos a war buff was telling me he caught half of the finale a while back and couldnt even finish it, it was so bad. It was also his first time seeing the show.
And Jarhead looks just as bad. Anyone else just hate the part with Fox doing that lame "hur rah"?
My old man whos a war buff was telling me he caught half of the finale a while back and couldnt even finish it, it was so bad. It was also his first time seeing the show.
And Jarhead looks just as bad. Anyone else just hate the part with Fox doing that lame "hur rah"?
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FX's "Over There" Cancelled
http://medialifemagazine.com/artman/...ticle_1032.asp
When “Over There” premiered on FX in July, it was touted by many critics as a bold, unflinching look at the brutalities of war. It also made history as the first dramatic series to be based on a contemporaneous war.
But as it turns out, it was a bold, unflinching look at the brutalities of war that viewers could well do without. For all its realism and raw drama, “Over There” brought home a war that was already too close to home. Late yesterday afternoon FX canceled the show.
It comes as no surprise. The series had a promising debut, averaging more than 4 million total viewers, but steadily lost its following week to week, with last week's finale drawing just 1.35 million viewers, for a 67 percent decline from its premiere. Through 13 episodes, “Over There” averaged 2.12 million viewers.
“The program may have been too raw for viewers to be able to distance themselves from the tragedy of an on-going conflict,” says Bill Carroll, vice president and director of programming at Katz Television Group.
“Over There” brought the reality of the crisis in Iraq to living rooms around the country without the benefit of distance in time or place. Unlike “M*A*S*H,” which used a past conflict (Korean War) to address a more recent military action (Vietnam War), “Over There” dramatized a war that viewers already follow in the news every day.
“Was the show artistically successful in its portrayal? The answer is yes,” says Carroll. “But could or would the mass audience embrace that realism as entertainment? The answer it would seem, based on viewership, is likely no.”
The series concluded with an open-ended episode, leaving open the possibility of a return. But even before yesterday's decision, its future looked grim.
“Ratings are probably below the level of sustainability from our standpoint,” FX president John Landgraf told USA Today last week. Also, producer Steven Bochco left last month to helm ABC’s “Commander in Chief.”
When “Over There” premiered on FX in July, it was touted by many critics as a bold, unflinching look at the brutalities of war. It also made history as the first dramatic series to be based on a contemporaneous war.
But as it turns out, it was a bold, unflinching look at the brutalities of war that viewers could well do without. For all its realism and raw drama, “Over There” brought home a war that was already too close to home. Late yesterday afternoon FX canceled the show.
It comes as no surprise. The series had a promising debut, averaging more than 4 million total viewers, but steadily lost its following week to week, with last week's finale drawing just 1.35 million viewers, for a 67 percent decline from its premiere. Through 13 episodes, “Over There” averaged 2.12 million viewers.
“The program may have been too raw for viewers to be able to distance themselves from the tragedy of an on-going conflict,” says Bill Carroll, vice president and director of programming at Katz Television Group.
“Over There” brought the reality of the crisis in Iraq to living rooms around the country without the benefit of distance in time or place. Unlike “M*A*S*H,” which used a past conflict (Korean War) to address a more recent military action (Vietnam War), “Over There” dramatized a war that viewers already follow in the news every day.
“Was the show artistically successful in its portrayal? The answer is yes,” says Carroll. “But could or would the mass audience embrace that realism as entertainment? The answer it would seem, based on viewership, is likely no.”
The series concluded with an open-ended episode, leaving open the possibility of a return. But even before yesterday's decision, its future looked grim.
“Ratings are probably below the level of sustainability from our standpoint,” FX president John Landgraf told USA Today last week. Also, producer Steven Bochco left last month to helm ABC’s “Commander in Chief.”
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That sucks. I thought the show had its ups and downs, but the finale was fantastic.
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• Article •
But as it turns out, it was a bold, unflinching look at the brutalities of war that viewers could well do without. For all its realism and raw drama, “Over There” brought home a war that was already too close to home.
The series had a promising debut, averaging more than 4 million total viewers, but steadily lost its following week to week, with last week's finale drawing just 1.35 million viewers, for a 67 percent decline from its premiere.
“The program may have been too raw for viewers to be able to distance themselves from the tragedy of an on-going conflict,” says Bill Carroll, vice president and director of programming at Katz Television Group.
But as it turns out, it was a bold, unflinching look at the brutalities of war that viewers could well do without. For all its realism and raw drama, “Over There” brought home a war that was already too close to home.
The series had a promising debut, averaging more than 4 million total viewers, but steadily lost its following week to week, with last week's finale drawing just 1.35 million viewers, for a 67 percent decline from its premiere.
“The program may have been too raw for viewers to be able to distance themselves from the tragedy of an on-going conflict,” says Bill Carroll, vice president and director of programming at Katz Television Group.
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I watched the first four shows or so, didn't see the point of continuing.
But out of curiosity... did Bo ever go back into combat (it was Bo with the artifical leg, right?)
But out of curiosity... did Bo ever go back into combat (it was Bo with the artifical leg, right?)