Rocketdog2000

I liked it too. Don't understand you guys who aren't down with the backstory. Half this show IS the backstory, and about trying to figure out these people's motives and what not. The backstory is where you get that info. Plus, there's always some clue(s) thrown in about something related in the present.

And not that this is one of them, but I found it curious/interesting how many times it popped up during the backstory. When Jin is talking to his friend, he asks what color 'love' is - and his friend replys 'orange'. Did anyone else happen to notice how many times, and in different ways that particular color turned up in the backstory part of the ep after that? I'll see how many others picked up on it before I mention them all, but I will say that one color the Sun is often represented with, just so happens to be orange. Coincidence, yes or no?

FinkPish

I didn't mind the backstories in this one; to me, it will all mean something in the end, meaning I doubt the the writers are just using the flashback device as a time filler. Not the best episode, but I have a feeling they are holding back all the good shit for November sweeps.

What I am getting annoyed with, in terms of the writing, is the constant skirting around really specific, but simple, questions like asking the other survivors "why are you so on edge?" and "what happened to the rest of your group?" These things are brought up and promptly ignored without any real reason for ignoring a perfectly valid question. I would be pulling my hair out wanting to know what is wrong with these people if I were in the place of Jin, Michael or Sawyer, but they seem content to be ignored. I don't mind if information isn't given out immediately (I know that's pretty much the whole point of the show) but I at least like to have a rational reason as to why that easy question can't be answered right away.

Dr_Evil

My post was made to give JasonF a legal, quick way of getting the show. Sure, there are plenty of other ways to get it, including someone mailing him a VHS tape. The "is iTunes the devil?" debate is one for another thread.

dom56

An okay episode. I was laughing at Hurley asking Sun about Korea 'So did you go to the Olympic?'

animalmystic

The only redeeming quality of this boring ass episode is Sun is hot

In all seriousness though, this episode was a boring ass, filler episode garbage. By far the worst episode of the series. Ok it was cute and all how they met and what was going on, the matchmaking, and the cliche'd asshole boss, blah blah. I am sorry it was lame. Maybe something interesting will come of it like maybe the bald Asian guy has some connection to one of the characters.

As the above poster mentioned, about showing Jack and Kate because the audience might get pissed because they were not in this episode, it felt forced, along with Locke as well.

Word.

Or how about something that is interesting like why/where Jack got his tattoos at? Where the fuck Desmond went?

For sure, the bad girl thing she is doing is way tiring, and very annoying.

gatoinfeliz, that Lost drinking game roxx!!! Next week I am going to watch and get all fucked up...... OH WAIT WE HAVE TO WAIT 3 FUCKING WEEKS FOR A NEW EPISODE.

Ok I am done pissing and moaning.















I still love the show

Animal

Tommy Ceez

Last post on this off topic discussion, but he watches the commercials every week, and pays for cable/sattelite. Now he's ripping the creators off because he's not paying an imaginary $2.00 fee?

I recorded the show and watched it at 11:00...I guess I ripped them off.

Hoo Hoo, Tell 'em Fred

Heat

Teddy Bear... where have we seen it before? Was it something that Ethan took?

Rogue588

three....fucking....weeks.

and so it begins..

shawagg

I can't believe you guys. You guys are wrong, it was a great ep!!

Stop conplaining that they aren't give it all away and enjoy the fun of the mystery. Once they reveal all you'll know the show won't be worth watching.

snoogins

I'm wondering if the woman that Sun's date is marrying in America might be related to the group in some way.

A-aron

Anyone else spend the episode scanning the backgrounds for hidden clues?

It should be noted that not all of the "others" had bare legs. To me, that would indicate that some of them may be the captors and others the captives. Perhaps this island is Kathy Lee's secret clothing complex and they need kids to make the product But, in all seriousness, what if the island is some big drug factory, and the kids are used to harvest it. The Hanso foundation is just one big coverup for a multi-billion dollar drug ring. We've seen the statues, and know that some kind of smuggling was going on - maybe that plane was from someone on the island itself.

RichardW

We just don't like spending an hour and not even getting to first base.

movieking

As for what happens in the next episode:

Shannon Nutt

What's odd about the three-week hiatus is that it was originally scheduled to air next week [The new TV GUIDE has a synopsis for the Nov. episode]. I guess the thought at ABC is that they don't want to be up against the World Series, but what about the week after that? Bad move to take a three week break after a PARTICULARLY slow episode (easily the worst one this season).

As for the next new show:

Chew

I was actually drifting off during the flashback segments this week.

Pointyskull

Sure, it may not have had the excitement or revelations as found previous storylines, but I do like the backstory pieces quite a bit. Even when it isn't answering the questions I want answered, those flashbacks draw me in everytime.

The only things that really blow are the 3 week wait until a new ep...

and that Kate was featured so briefly (and more or less 'fessing up some feelings for Sawyer)


Have we a definitive answer on this? Jin gave it a weird look, like it was familiar.

Yep. I was sure the Dharma logo would pop up during Jin's story...

Michael Corvin

I strongly disagree. It is called character development. They want you to care about the characters so that when the shit hits the fan there will be more of an emotional reaction.

I loved last nights episode. I also think Jin/Sun's story is one of the better ones. It also amazes me that a mainstream top 10 show can get away with half the episode in a foreign language and subtitled. That is awesome. I prefer the slower pace as well. Then again, I'm used to reading Stephen King where there first 200 pages are backstory and character development. There is more of an emotional payoff because of it.

I do have to agree about Jack/Locke/Kate showing up. Very forced. They couldn't fill those slots with more Claire, Charlie, Shannon, Sayid or Rose?

dadaluholla

Well this was better than last weeks episode, but still pretty dull. Of course, I'm more of a fan of the "fast paced/plot twist" Lost than the "filler/advance character history" Lost.

cdoug57

The show just seems to be almost running out of gas. The flashback once again just fleshed out an aspect of their lives that I had put together. We knew Jin was from a fishing village (secretly ashamed) and was in some type of waiter/hotel position and that he worked for Sun's father (probably after they got to know each other). There was not any real new information. Same thing I felt with Michael's flashback.

I hope that this mini-break before the November sweeps allows for some better put together shows. Still enjoying the show, just doesn't seem to be keeping me glued to my seat like I was last season.

Hoping three weeks pass quickly.

rfduncan

I have always had issues understanding that actor (I used CC watching OZ because of him). I went back and CC'ed that line - he said he lost the trail. Basically, he realized he'd found Michael and may have been trying to ditch them.

The hiatus is probably because of baseball.

Also this episode is likely to rerun sometime in those three weeks, so if you missed it you will get another chance to see it sometime before the next new episode.

Finally - to ALL THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PACING AND THE FLASHBACKS: This IS what the show is about! It is about character development and mystery. If you want it all solved for you, wait a few years when the show ends and just watch the final episode! (In the meantime, watch a bunch of suspense flicks.) Do you not yet realize that all the backstories are tied in to how and WHY they all ended up on the plane together?!!?!?!

I enjoyed this episode immensely. The backstory for Sun and Jin is MUCH more complicated than we were shown last season. We were led to believe that he was a cater-waiter at one of Sun's father's big social gatherings and that is where they met. Instead we now see that Jin HAD principles that he gave up in order earn the right to marry Sun. However, their initial meeting which we witnessed last was truly love at first sight. Ultimately Sun still loves Jin and vice versa. Their separation will ultimately help Sun convince Jin that he's going to need to start learning English in order to survive on the island.

CPA-ESQ.

That guy that Sun was set up with - The son of the hotel owner:

Said that he met a girl at Harvard

so do we know of anyone on the Island that went to Harvard?

Did Shannon go to Harvard? It's not unlike this show to have a tie in like that.

Maquis

I guess I don't get why everyone is hating these "slow-paced" episodes? I guess the producers should not have given as much as they did on the season premire, now everyone expects a fast-paced episode every week?

The reason I got hooked on Lost is the amount of time spent on the character development... It's something you don't get in 90% of the stuff on TV nowdays!

Also, I loved the backstory this week. Just because it is a character that we've seen some backstory on, doesn't mean they've covered this part of the character's life. From what I remember, all we know about Jin and Sun was once they were getting engaged/married and what drove them apart. It was in the same vein as seeing Jack's backstory a couple weeks ago, and seeing how he first met his (ex?)wife.

A definate for this ep.

Groucho

I agree that this was a good episode. My favorite stuff was the Adventures of Jin and Mr. Echo. The flashbacks were good too, since Sun and Jin have been neglected this season.

I still want to know about the teddy bear. Obviously, they showed it to us for a reason. Either we've seen it before, or we're being set up to see it again. Since it wasn't shown on the "Previously on..." segment, presumably it's the latter.

DVD Josh

Yes, that's who I was referring to.

And I'm pretty sure it's Mr. Ecko. But hopefully that's clarified.

dadaluholla

I don't mind the flashbacks, and i understand their purpose... I just would rather them be more interesting.