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rfduncan 10-13-05 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Joeboo835
Could it be that this IS an experiment and they don't want kids involved, thus taking Walt. They might not know about the baby, so they haven't taken him yet, or that they don't think it'll have a lasting effect on a baby

Or why Ethan kidnapped Claire last season...

Interesting thought about Dharma project though... maybe these folks have KEPT the island off maps all these years to prevent interference in the project. Perhaps the electromagnetism experiment cause the plane to strangely break apart and "attract" both pieces separately to the island.

Vincey37 10-13-05 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Joeboo835
Could it be that this IS an experiment and they don't want kids involved, thus taking Walt. They might not know about the baby, so they haven't taken him yet, or that they don't think it'll have a lasting effect on a baby

Lasting effect? How about Boone and the marshall dying slow, painful deaths? How about a high school science teacher literally exploding? And none of this "they faked it" stuff. Jack is a doctor. I think he knows when someone is dead.

The "two island" and "psychological experiment" theories are becoming too popular when there is really little evidence to support them.

Two island: The tail section of the plain somehow landed on a completely different island. This is more plausible than that there is simply a part of the island the original survivors have not explored.

Psychological experiment: Researchers have managed to coordinate the activities of the CIA, the death of Jack's father, Locke's Walkabout, Australian law enforcement, a fugitives capture, and others, all to get a certain group of interconnected people on a plane. This plane is then made to malfunction and break up exactly at the right moment - so it crashes on a specific island where an elaborate experiment is already set up. It is a custom plane, designed for certain passengers to survive the unsurvivable. The researchers can take away Locke's paralysis at will, as well as make it start to come back. Certain members of the crash are allowed to die to make the experiment better. Dead bodies are placed strategically around the island, for the same reason. The researchers find out the numbers Hurley used to win the lottery, and inform Desmond, who is an actor, to make it the computer code and place it on the hatch as well - to provide extra psychological crazyness. Oh, and the guy in the mental hospital who went crazy from the numbers is an actor as well. As was Claire's palm reader. This has all been arranged for years. And on, and on...

Vincey37 10-13-05 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
Or why Ethan kidnapped Claire last season...

Interesting thought about Dharma project though... maybe these folks have KEPT the island off maps all these years to prevent interference in the project. Perhaps the electromagnetism experiment cause the plane to strangely break apart and "attract" both pieces separately to the island.

The electromagnetism caused an entire plane to land on the island? The same electromagnetism that doesn't affect the key around Jack's neck until he's right next to the wall?

CPA-ESQ. 10-13-05 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Vincey37
This has all been arranged for years. And on, and on...

:lol:

Thank you!! Some of these "theories" are getting a bit out of hand.

whotony 10-13-05 04:17 PM

who is that podcast from and what is the natural disaster that has mr clucks closed?

Pointyskull 10-13-05 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by whotony
what is the natural disaster that has mr clucks closed?

Hurley mentioned that the place had been hit by a meteor.

runner001 10-13-05 06:38 PM

i recall the characters themselves mentioning that they are on the other side of the island...implying that they are on the same island. if the mountain is between the two sides, it is quite plausible for one side not to have seen the other side, especially if the tail section people were keeping busy with their members dying, i doubt they'd be in the mood for searching.

Jimmy James 10-13-05 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by runner001
i recall the characters themselves mentioning that they are on the other side of the island...implying that they are on the same island. if the mountain is between the two sides, it is quite plausible for one side not to have seen the other side, especially if the tail section people were keeping busy with their members dying, i doubt they'd be in the mood for searching.

How would they know they were on the other side of the same island?

FatTony 10-13-05 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Vincey37
The electromagnetism caused an entire plane to land on the island? The same electromagnetism that doesn't affect the key around Jack's neck until he's right next to the wall?

Remember when Jack (or was it Locke?) told Desmond they'd been there 44 days and he looked at his tallies on the wall with a strange expression? Perhaps he didn't enter the numbers for whatever reason 44 days ago and the magnet switched on to full power.

Relax, they're just theories. That's part of what makes watching this show fun. Coming up with your own ideas of what is actually going on.

animalmystic 10-13-05 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by jmstipe
no one has mentioned what sayed said about all the concrete that was poured. I found that to be quite interesting. Wonder what if anything that will have to do on future episodes, or just the island in general.



Overall a decent episode. I am curious about the part of the facility that is cemented off as Sayid commented on.
Hey I mentioned it :)

riley_dude 10-13-05 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
How would they know they were on the other side of the same island?


Maybe Mr. Roarke is on the other side of the island manipulating all of them.

lukewarmwater 10-13-05 07:11 PM

FYI you can buy the second season on itunes for 5.97 or 1.99 a piece.

animalmystic 10-13-05 07:18 PM

Where did Hurley get the dynomite? Did he kife some when people wern't looking at the boat and hide it? Or did he go back to the boat?

zuffy 10-13-05 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by animalmystic
Where did Hurley get the dynomite? Did he kife some when people wern't looking at the boat and hide it? Or did he go back to the boat?

There was some left over from Jack and Locke. I guess he knew where they hidden it, near a tree.

atlantamoi 10-13-05 07:32 PM

How long were those guys in the ground "prison"? I found it a little odd that Bernard would not have had some inclination to RUN to ask about his wife the very instant he heard who they might be. I did see they were whispering to him in the hatch, so I guess that really is when he found out. Then, instead of standing there when they said Rose was okay, I'd expect him to want to be taken to her ASAP. Maybe it really is two islands.

zuffy 10-13-05 07:41 PM

I'm assuming Jin, Michael, and Sawyer was in the prison for the afternoon. Ana said it was getting dark so they went back to the hatch.

Josh H 10-13-05 10:05 PM

Decent episode. I'm not a big fan of Hurley and his backstory, so it drug a little for me. But the stuff in the bunker and with the other survivors was interesting.

Will be intersting to see why the section of the bunker is concreted off, and what happened the the rest of the tail section survivors.

viking99 10-13-05 11:27 PM

Weren't there three sections of the plane?

a) tail section
b) center section w/wings that landed on beach
c) nose section w/pilot that crashed further in-land

That might suggest that the tail section did, in fact, wind up somewhere out to sea from the beach; such as another island. Or, am I just confused.....?

Heat 10-14-05 12:09 AM

What's with all of the "different island" theories? I thought it was obvious that they were on the same island, and that the tail section survivors are just at a different dharma station. One with something bad.

Gunde 10-14-05 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by Heat
What's with all of the "different island" theories? I thought it was obvious that they were on the same island, and that the tail section survivors are just at a different dharma station. One with something bad.

I agree. I thinks it's obviously meant to be the same island. However we don't know how big it is or how far apart the two group of survivors are.

HN 10-14-05 02:36 AM

tail section's hatch's logo:

looks like an arrow with 'Dharma' written across it.

http://img437.imageshack.us/img437/8246/copy4ig.jpg

Michael Corvin 10-14-05 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by viking99
Weren't there three sections of the plane?

a) tail section
b) center section w/wings that landed on beach
c) nose section w/pilot that crashed further in-land

That might suggest that the tail section did, in fact, wind up somewhere out to sea from the beach; such as another island. Or, am I just confused.....?

I'm with you. I mentioned that early on last year and was pretty much ridiculed for it. :lol: "no. the plane could have flipped or spun around, or something" :rolleyes:

Pointyskull 10-14-05 08:08 AM

nice pic.

Questions I Don't Have Answers For:
So it seems that all the sections are not named after animals, so then what could be the common theme, if any?

Is there a meaning in the long/short lines that make up the 8 quadrants of the Dharma logo(s)? There doesn't appear to be any real symmetry.

In S1, Ethan Rom said he was from "Ontario". Could that be one of the other section names?

milwaukee_mike 10-14-05 08:44 AM

Going back to the numbers for a moment, shouldn't Sayid be capable of creating a simple program that would allow the computer to enter the numbers and execute every 108 minutes, all on it's own?

flagstone 10-14-05 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by milwaukee_mike
Going back to the numbers for a moment, shouldn't Sayid be capable of creating a simple program that would allow the computer to enter the numbers and execute every 108 minutes, all on it's own?

Depends on whether he got training in Applesoft BASIC back in the Republican Guards. :D


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