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tasha99 08-29-05 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by marty888
Uh ... not a "classic" with everyone. I gave <i>Deadwood</i> six chances before moving on to better uses of my time. And <i>The Comeback</i>, which I disliked from the start, was simply a slow descent into total television putrification that didn't justify any further viewing. I also stuck with <i>Carnivale</i> after finding the first episode boring - and it maintained it's boredom factor (obviously for enough other people also so that it only lasted two seasons.)

No, I give shows a chance, but I'll only waste so much of my time before moving on.

Huh--Carnivale and Deadwood are my two favorite HBO shows. Let's make it a plan never to watch tv together then. :p

sven 08-29-05 12:46 PM

I thought it was pretty decent. It doesnt seem to have many standout characters as of yet. But hey you can only do so much with them when you are trying to introduce 15 diffrent people in an hour. It was plenty good enough to keep me watching for atleast a few more weeks.

spainlinx0 08-29-05 01:05 PM

I think it has a lot of potential, and if it doesn't at least they have the nudity. I am also a fan of the two soldiers, and will continue watching.

movielib 08-29-05 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Merkin Muffley
I love reading people's reactions to first episodes. Stuff like, "I'm not impressed," "underwhlemed," "I'm only giving it one more week," "boring," etc.

You see the same reaction for EVERY show. I even remember the same reaction for Deadwood...and now that show's a DVD Talk classic.

I don't know what you people are expecting from a series premiere. You can only do so much to set up an ENTIRE SERIES in an hour.

I think it has great potential. Sign me up for the whole season.

Ditto.

I love ancient history and after the atrocious Empire it's good to see something with class and substance - gravitas, if you will.

Shannon Nutt 08-29-05 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by movielib
gravitas, if you will.

Now...let's keep Keifer Sutherland out of this... :)

cleaver 08-29-05 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Polly Walker is pretty hot...everyone remember her from PATRIOT GAMES?

Good spot. I was proud recognizing Caesar from Patriot Games, Pompey from Layer Cake, and Octavian from Master & Commander.

sven 08-29-05 03:12 PM

And Rick Warden (LT Harry Welsh) from Band of Brothers plays Pompey's son. Though he didnt show up in the first ep.

Tommy Ceez 08-29-05 03:57 PM

OK...in the Roman Epic scale with I Claudius being a 10 and the dubbed B-grade Italian Sword and Sandal epics being a 1 where do you rank this show?


I say a strong 6 for the premire, with potential to hit the top spot if done right.


BTW, does anyone know if this is the time period the show plans on sticking with for the entire run, or like I claudius, are we going to see 100+ years by the time were done? Having Augustus as a child for the series entire run would be strange.

Noojimbo 08-29-05 04:02 PM

It was pretty good; lukewarm as some others said, but I heard it doesn't really get going until the 4th episode.

indianajdp 08-29-05 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by Merkin Muffley
I love reading people's reactions to first episodes. Stuff like, "I'm not impressed," "underwhlemed," "I'm only giving it one more week," "boring," etc.

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I don't know what you people are expecting from a series premiere. You can only do so much to set up an ENTIRE SERIES in an hour.

Hmmmm. So I guess we shouldn't post a reaction at all until the 5th or 6th episode? The hard reality of television, especially when we have 9,205 different channels to choose from is that a new show should pretty well grab you in quick or you run a real risk of losing that potential audience for good.

For the same reason I felt underwhelmed (and am apparently being criticized for not giving it enough time) how could you say "sign me up" after just one hour? Shouldn't that reservation of judgement go both ways, or does it just apply to those that don't like it immediately?

I do think it has a lot of potential, but for a series premiere...-yawn-. I'm sure it will get better, which is why I am giving it a couple more viewings.

Snowmaker 08-29-05 10:03 PM

Downloading it now to check out. I miss my HBO. :(

MrX 08-29-05 10:48 PM

I liked it a lot.

Certainly worlds better then ABC's craptacular Empire.

Looking forward to the future episodes.

Chew 08-30-05 06:06 AM

I agree with one of the previous comments: when the new Fall season starts, a show has to grab the viewer with something at the very beginning or risk losing them to something else. There's always something else in September and October.

The pilot didn't do much for me either.

Bobby Shalom 08-30-05 10:18 AM

"The show has to grab you right away," this is a deadly formula for episodic television and most film in general. I personally feel this is the attitude that keeps Michael Bay rich.

I really enjoyed the premiere. I found it pretty compelling, and am starting to get to know the characters. Thank god HBO isn't as ruled by ratings as Networks, and can let a show find its audience. If everybody thinks this show is awesome by the 5th episode, then everyone who found it boring is going to go back and try to rewatch the first 4. Then the DVD sales will be huge, etc.

HBO is the only place I can watch shows that aren't totally catering to the 18-25 demographic.

wendersfan 08-30-05 10:38 AM

As far as a new show "grabbing" you, I was instantly impressed with <i>The Sopranos</i>, <i>Six Feet Under</i>, and <i>Deadwood</i>. While I don't expect every show to be as immediately likable as those, it doesn't hurt, since I watch so little TV that I'll drop a show on a moment's notice. My wife was quite taken with <i>Rome</i>, so I'll be watching it with her for at least a few more episodes.

Geofferson 08-30-05 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Noojimbo
It was pretty good; lukewarm as some others said, but I heard it doesn't really get going until the 4th episode.

That's what I've read as well. So long as you stick with it past the first 3 episodes, viewers will be rewarded.

sundog 08-30-05 11:51 AM

I enjoyed it quite a bit and plan on rewatching the premiere. Having learned about Rome via Art History and Military History classes in college my interest was quite satisfied, by the forthcoming political intrigue, the depiction of the culture, and the production design (all that white marble was indeed painted).

sundog 08-30-05 12:05 PM

Did anyone else make a correlation between the girl's pose on the bed (can't recall her name; the one that divorced her husband to marry Pompey) and this famous statue of Romulus and Remus:

http://library.ucsc.edu/slides/decou....474.0929r.jpg

Cusm 08-30-05 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Having Augustus as a child for the series entire run would be strange.



It was odd seeing everyone call him by his birth name, I did not think anyone used his real since he was 3 or so.

Tommy Ceez 08-30-05 02:01 PM

By the way, we have a new TV series genra, created this summer.

The 'Octavious in Peril' epic!

CRM114 08-30-05 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Visually impressive. That alone will keep me tuned in.

Yep. :up:

Noojimbo 08-30-05 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Cusm
It was odd seeing everyone call him by his birth name, I did not think anyone used his real since he was 3 or so.

Actually he did not receive the name (title) Augustus until after the battle of Actium, when he was in his 30's.

Cusm 08-30-05 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Noojimbo
Actually he did not receive the name (title) Augustus until after the battle of Actium, when he was in his 30's.


I was referring to "Little Boots", Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus. Or was that not the kid on the horse?

movielib 08-30-05 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Cusm
I was referring to "Little Boots", Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus. Or was that not the kid on the horse?

Octavian and Caligula were different people. Caligula was born more than 60 years after the events of the show last night.

movielib 08-30-05 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
By the way, we have a new TV series genra, created this summer.

The 'Octavious in Peril' epic!

Unlike Empire, Rome gets the guy's name right: Octavian, not Octavius.


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