Senator vows to make cable tv as bland as network tv..
03-02-05, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
It should probably be changed to "A Senator" so all of the Republicans here don't get their panties twisted into a bunch. (And, yes, the Democrats have Lieberman, too, so you can't lay everything at the feet of one party.)
This kind of "Hey, all parties have their fruitcakes" approach to this issue is a lie. If there *is* a culture war, then--by and large--the Republicans are the ones pandering to those on the side of repression.
That said, yes, such a partisan title is best left to the Politics Subforum.
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03-02-05, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by adamblast
True enough, but if the Republicans here are trying to pretend theirs *isn't* the party most strongly affiliated with combatting "indecency" in the culture wars, they're lying--and can eat my shorts.
This kind of "hey, all parties have their fruitcakes" approach to this issue is a lie. If there *is* a culture war, then--by and large--the Republicans are the ones pandering to those on the side of repression.
This kind of "hey, all parties have their fruitcakes" approach to this issue is a lie. If there *is* a culture war, then--by and large--the Republicans are the ones pandering to those on the side of repression.
I say again, when 48/48 Senate Dems and 184/205 House Dems vote to drastically increase indecency fines, please don't claim your party has the high ground on the issue. I am not a Republican. Both parties suck.
03-02-05, 11:52 AM
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I disagree that blood and tits somehow make things less "bland." There's a lot of good network shows out there that don't rely on the crutch of "mature" content.
That said, the FCC should keep their dirty hands away from cable tv!
That said, the FCC should keep their dirty hands away from cable tv!
03-02-05, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
I say again, when 48/48 Senate Dems and 184/205 House Dems vote to drastically increase indecency fines, please don't claim your party has the high ground on the issue. I am not a Republican. Both parties suck.
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03-02-05, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by adamblast
Successful Democratic politicians know what side their bread is buttered on--and often, it's the Republican side. That doesn't mean there's no difference on the issue.
No wait, let's talk about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy on the issue.
03-02-05, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by adamblast
Successful Democratic politicians know what side their bread is buttered on--and often, it's the Republican side. That doesn't mean there's no difference on the issue.
I guess we have different ideas of what 'success' means. Who gives a rat's ass how successful a politician is if he compromises his principles, which is what you are implying that Democrats are doing. Their principles mean jackshit if they aren't voting them.
03-02-05, 12:54 PM
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I say change the thread title to Big Government Authoritarian vows to make cable tv as bland as network tv.
This is scary! and it's not just cable tv, he wants the same standards for satellite radio too and that would probably put Sirius and XM out of business. DVDs, Books and the Internet will likely be the next targets.
The next wave of Satellite TV will be to bring in uncensored British, Canadian and Australian broadcasts and Congress won't be able to do anything about that!
This is scary! and it's not just cable tv, he wants the same standards for satellite radio too and that would probably put Sirius and XM out of business. DVDs, Books and the Internet will likely be the next targets.
The next wave of Satellite TV will be to bring in uncensored British, Canadian and Australian broadcasts and Congress won't be able to do anything about that!
03-02-05, 12:57 PM
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• Red Dog •
I say again, when 48/48 Senate Dems and 184/205 House Dems vote to drastically increase indecency fines, please don't claim your party has the high ground on the issue. I am not a Republican. Both parties suck.
I say again, when 48/48 Senate Dems and 184/205 House Dems vote to drastically increase indecency fines, please don't claim your party has the high ground on the issue. I am not a Republican. Both parties suck.
Branding this a Republican-specific agenda is not only wrong, but it marginalizes the fact that our entire government is trying to further violate the Constitution on both sides of the aisle with this issue.
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03-02-05, 12:59 PM
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Welcome back to the 1950's!
03-02-05, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
I say again, when 48/48 Senate Dems and 184/205 House Dems vote to drastically increase indecency fines, please don't claim your party has the high ground on the issue. I am not a Republican. Both parties suck.
Oddly, I would think this would enrage Stevens' voters since I'm willing to bet that 95% of most TVs in his state rely on cable and satellite to get ANY sort of broadcasting.
03-02-05, 03:43 PM
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Looks like he's picked up a little more support...
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Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, the head of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, supported the idea of indecency guidelines for cable and satellite and said he would consult with Stevens on possible legislation.
"It's not fair to subject over-the-air broadcasters to one set of rules and subject cable and satellite to no rules," Barton told reporters after a separate appearance before the broadcasters group.
"It's not fair to subject over-the-air broadcasters to one set of rules and subject cable and satellite to no rules," Barton told reporters after a separate appearance before the broadcasters group.
03-02-05, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
03-02-05, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
It is unfair to lambast only Republicans for crap like this when 48 Democrats in the Senate and 180 or so Democrats in the House voted to drastically increase indeceny fines last year. Democrats are not any better on this issue than Republicans.
Yep.
03-02-05, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by adamblast
True enough, but if the Republicans here are trying to pretend theirs *isn't* the party most strongly affiliated with combatting supposed indecency and immorality in the "culture wars," they're lying--and can eat my shorts.
This kind of "Hey, all parties have their fruitcakes" approach to this issue is a lie. If there *is* a culture war, then--by and large--the Republicans are the ones pandering to those on the side of repression.
That said, yes, such a partisan title is best left to the Politics Subforum.
This kind of "Hey, all parties have their fruitcakes" approach to this issue is a lie. If there *is* a culture war, then--by and large--the Republicans are the ones pandering to those on the side of repression.
That said, yes, such a partisan title is best left to the Politics Subforum.
Forever faithful to your party even when they're NOT faithful to you. Tote that party line baby!
I think the Repubs here are saying they don't agree with this kind of shit from any party. Or maybe it's just me....I don't want anyone, Dem or Repub, telling me what I can and cannot see or hear.
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03-02-05, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
It is unfair to lambast only Republicans for crap like this when 48 Democrats in the Senate and 180 or so Democrats in the House voted to drastically increase indeceny fines last year. Democrats are not any better on this issue than Republicans.
03-03-05, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Needle
And there is a reason they all vote for it. It is because a clear majority of voters support it. If anyone thinks they are doing it for any other reason they'd be wrong.
How do you know this? Seems to me the reason they vote for it is that the prudes are far more vocal about these things. How many people lodged complaints about Nipplegate? It was not half the country. It wasn't even half the Super Bowl audience. Not half the SB halftime audience. Not even close.
03-03-05, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Forever faithful to your party even when they're NOT faithful to you. Tote that party line baby! I think the Repubs here are saying they don't agree with this kind of shit from any party. Or maybe it's just me....I don't want anyone, Dem or Repub, telling me what I can and cannot see or hear.
I think the Repubs here are saying they don't agree with this kind of shit from any party. Or maybe it's just me....I don't want anyone, Dem or Repub, telling me what I can and cannot see or hear.Last edited by adamblast; 03-03-05 at 12:58 PM.
03-03-05, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dog
How do you know this? Seems to me the reason they vote for it is that the prudes are far more vocal about these things. How many people lodged complaints about Nipplegate? It was not half the country. It wasn't even half the Super Bowl audience. Not half the SB halftime audience. Not even close.
03-03-05, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Needle
It is very elementary politics. If there were political advantage to be made by taking the opposite position, most politicians would in a heartbeat. But they don't. Your view is in the minority of the voting public in the view of politicians. Since knowing this sort of thing is what they (and their staffers) do for a living, I am quite certain that is the case.
No - I think the vocal minority is a lot louder and has more political clout than the silent majority. In other words, they are willing to go to the mat for their cause. The non-anal retentive don't have that same passion.
03-04-05, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by adamblast
Trust me, I'm not a faithful Demo-defender. Only a faithful Repub-attacker. Republicans, Mormons, Southern Baptists and FullScreen-Buyers are all on my list--not as individuals, but certainly as institutions.
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