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Chew 02-25-05 06:14 AM

Enterprise 02/25/05
 
Episode Title: "Divergence"

Spoiler:
With the help of Captain Hernandez, Trip and the newly-launched starship Columbia, Archer pursues the kidnapped Phlox deep into Klingon territory, as Phlox decides to cooperate with finding a cure to a virus ravaging a Klingon outpost

This arc reveals the beginnings of a second, smooth-headed breed of Klingon, seen in the original "Star Trek" series.

Meanwhile, Archer demands that Reed disclose his secret orders when his ties to a mysterious intelligence organization are revealed. Later, when Trip temporarily returns to Enterprise, T'Pol tries to broach an uncomfortable subject with him.

Chew 02-25-05 10:51 AM


A former head of Paramount Television, a producer of Disney's Inspector Gadget movies and a screenwriter new to the franchise are working with longtime Star Trek executive producer Rick Berman to develop the eleventh Star Trek feature film, a trade newspaper has revealed.

"You can only squeeze so many eggs out of a golden goose," Berman told Variety, stating that the concept of Star Trek has been overexposed and needs to be reinvented. Berman told reporter Dave McNary that another Star Trek television series is at least three years away, and that, if the proposal for the eleventh film goes forward, it will not focus on already-established TV characters.

Berman's partners in development are said to be Jordan Kerner, a producer of over 30 films who has not previously worked on Star Trek; former Paramount Television president Kerry McCluggage, who has been cited by many Star Trek actors and producers as a strong supporter of the franchise; and a screenwriter named Eric Genderson.

"Each time we started something else, we were competing against the previous shows so as the number started to accumulate, we started to see franchise fatigue," Berman admitted. "You could see it with the performance of the last film, which was a wonderful movie." Variety noted that the studio is in "a time of uncertainty" with two new execs, Viacom co-president Tom Freston and Paramount head Brad Grey, more focused on developing films for younger audiences than long-time Star Trek fans.

Director Roger Nygard of the Trekkies documentaries noted that he believes a hiatus is logical, "like after you've eaten Thanksgiving dinner, you really don't want any more turkey", but he was confident that, as fans predicted in Trekkies 2, Star Trek would still be around in another 50 years. He added, "It's worth noting that Star Trek didn't really begin toflourish until it had been off the air for awhile the first time."
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Deftones 02-25-05 11:03 AM

Why wouldn't Coto be involved in a movie? I mean hell, he pretty much made this season worthwhile. Oh wait, that would be too logical.

Tracer Bullet 02-25-05 11:14 AM


"Each time we started something else, we were competing against the previous shows so as the number started to accumulate, we started to see franchise fatigue," Berman admitted. "You could see it with the performance of the last film, which was a wonderful movie."
Oh, god... they're never going to get rid of him, are they?

Damfino 02-25-05 11:19 AM


"Each time we started something else, we were competing against the previous shows so as the number started to accumulate, we started to see franchise fatigue," Berman admitted. "You could see it with the performance of the last film, which was a wonderful movie."
-rolleyes-

MvRojo 02-25-05 11:51 AM

Variety updated the article about the film, correcting the screenwriters name. It's actually Erik Jendresen. He wrote three episodes of HBO's "Band of Brothers".

Red Dog 02-25-05 11:55 AM

Who wrote Khan and TUC? Have that person be the writer for any new movie.

Chew 02-25-05 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Who wrote Khan and TUC? Have that person be the writer for any new movie.

Nicholas Meyer might be who you're thinking of, but he was an uncredited writer on Khan. Jack Sowards wrote the screenplay there.

I believe Meyer has said he only had interest in the original characters.

Red Dog 02-25-05 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Chew
Nicholas Meyer might be who you're thinking of, but he was an uncredited writer on Khan. Jack Sowards wrote the screenplay there.

I believe Meyer has said he only had interest in the original characters.


Okay. Who wrote First Contact. That's a good 2nd choice.

MvRojo 02-25-05 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Red Dog
Okay. Who wrote First Contact. That's a good 2nd choice.

Brannon Braga and Ron Moore

MEJHarrison 02-25-05 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by Chew
A former head of Paramount Television, a producer of Disney's Inspector Gadget movies and a screenwriter new to the franchise are working with longtime Star Trek executive producer Rick Berman to develop the eleventh Star Trek feature film, a trade newspaper has revealed.

Go Go Gadget Crap. Get Bermen out of there and I might get excited.

MvRojo 02-25-05 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Chew
Nicholas Meyer might be who you're thinking of, but he was an uncredited writer on Khan. Jack Sowards wrote the screenplay there.

I believe Meyer has said he only had interest in the original characters.

Meyer also did all the scenes in Star Trek IV that took place in the past.

Red Dog 02-25-05 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by MvRojo
Brannon Braga and Ron Moore


Well, 1 outta 2 ain't bad. ;)

riley_dude 02-25-05 02:51 PM

Berman.Berman.Berman. When are you going to learn. We dont want to see a new movie with new characters and we didnt think the last movie was Wonderful. Cant they put anyone at the helm that is in touch with the fans opinions?

Rascal 02-25-05 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by riley_dude
Berman.Berman.Berman. When are you going to learn. We dont want to see a new movie with new characters and we didnt think the last movie was Wonderful. Cant they put anyone at the helm that is in touch with the fans opinions?

Of course. Why else was Enterprise canceled after it started getting interesting?

riley_dude 02-25-05 05:13 PM

Rick is still involved and it's going to be about a New crew so look for it to crash just like the Bridge in Generations.

From Trekweb..........
Variety raised eyebrows this week when in an interview with TREK producer Rick Berman the trade named "Eric Genderson" as the scribe brought in by Paramount to work with Berman and producers Kerry McCluggage and Jordan Kerner on an eleventh STAR TREK feature film. TrekWeb has confirmed from the writer of the article that indeed the individual in question is actually Erik Jendresen, one of the Emmy Award-winning producers of BAND OF BROTHERS.

Jendresen is an accomplished writer in many genres, having novels, plays, and screenplays to his credit. IGN FilmForce reviewed Jendresen's career aptl in a "10 Questions" interview posted in December 2003. According to the article, Jendresen has penned the novels THE FOUR WINDS and ISLANDS OF THE SUN as well as two children's books, HANUMAN and THE FIRST STORY EVER TOLD. Among his film credits are CRAZY AS HELL and DEADLOCKED, as well as several projects in development.

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Excerpt from Manny Coto Interview:

Tim Brazeal : Which period of TREK history would you like to explore more ?

Coto : Personally, although I wouldn't really recommend doing another prequal, The most interesting would be the period during the STAR TREK feature films. However I'd recommend for the next series going to the 25th century because I feel that STAR TREK should move forward.
Tim_Brazeal : Do you think that STAR TREK needs a break?

Coto : I don't for a moment believe STAR TREK needs a break. In fact I think we need more STAR TREK. There should be a STAR TREK night on UPN. I believe there is an audience for the show. I think a lot of it has to do with promotion. I don't know how many times people have told me when I tell them that I'm working on STAR TREK, they're response is "Is that still on" Many people don't know we are here. The people who run around saying that STAR TREK needs a break are themselves in

Tim Brazeal : What plans do you have for season 5 ?

Coto : I have numerous plans. The most interesting that come to mind are an arc that would deal with the founding of the first starbase. Also, I want to do a multi-part arc that takes place on the cloud city Stratos. And I really want to visit Denobula and to possibly do a coulple more mirror universe episodes which I invision as almost a series within a series. But the central theme of the season would have been the true founding of The Federation.


Tim Brazeal : Any spoilers or hints on the final episode?

Coto : I'm going to hold off on giving any spoilers on the final episode because it was written by Rick and Brannon. But I can say that it is a very moving episode and that it will be a success.

Bandoman 02-25-05 06:18 PM

Good Lord, these people are in denial.

mikehunt 02-25-05 07:31 PM

"reread the charter, Article 14 Section 31"
well, it's official, that guy is from Section 31

mikehunt 02-25-05 07:56 PM

seeing how things ended relatively peacefully I'm still left wondering.
Where's the disasterous first contact with the klingons mentioned in TNG?

MvRojo 02-26-05 02:56 AM

That was a great episode. The whole warp sequence at the beginning was pretty cool and it was original which made it even better.

Phil L. 02-26-05 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by MvRojo
That was a great episode. The whole warp sequence at the beginning was pretty cool and it was original which made it even better.

It was a pretty cool sequence with one ship being inverted.

Red Dog 02-26-05 10:21 AM

Another good episode.

Tracer Bullet 02-26-05 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Phil L.
It was a pretty cool sequence with one ship being inverted.

Yeah, I loved that. Star Trek doesn't acknowledge very much that space has no direction.

das Monkey 02-26-05 11:43 AM


Bandoman

Good Lord, these people are in denial.

I can't even find the energy to get mad about it anymore. Their complete inability to face reality is just so damn funny that all I can do is sit back and laugh.

das

Bronkster 02-26-05 11:50 AM

Not a bad episode, but since the premise was given to us last week, and we already know the future, it kinda seemed a bit like filler to me. I did like the way Phlox stepped up and took charge! That was quite entertaining!

maxpower 02-26-05 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by TracerBullet
Yeah, I loved that. Star Trek doesn't acknowledge very much that space has no direction.

That's what I was thinking...but it's not a star trek thing...just about any space movie has all ships on screen on the same plane...or axis or whatever(I'm sure a trekkie will chime in with the correct terminology). -smile-

Red Dog 02-26-05 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by maxpower
That's what I was thinking...but it's not a star trek thing...just about any space movie has all ships on screen on the same plane...or axis or whatever(I'm sure a trekkie will chime in with the correct terminology). -smile-


That was so great in Wrath of Khan - Kirk and Spock beat Khan with 3 dimensional thinking.

Cartload 02-26-05 09:01 PM

I really enjoyed the Klingon headridge arc despite my initial misgivings about doing such a story. However, 2 things that I noticed:

1) Trip had an Enterprise patch on his uniform and spacesuit instead of the Columbia insignia.
2) How was the virus beamed onto the Klingon ship through their shields?

das Monkey 02-26-05 09:03 PM


Cartload

2) How was the virus beamed onto the Klingon ship through their shields?

I'm pretty sure they had Trip recalibrate the phase inverters on the Starfleet standard issue Plot Device.

das

Tracer Bullet 02-26-05 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by maxpower
That's what I was thinking...but it's not a star trek thing...just about any space movie has all ships on screen on the same plane...or axis or whatever(I'm sure a trekkie will chime in with the correct terminology). -smile-

That's true- I can only think of a couple that didn't, notably Babylon 5, and Space: Above and Beyond (although I might be mistaken about that one; I haven't seen it in years).

mikehunt 02-26-05 11:28 PM

I think trek has shown ships meeting each other and orienting themselves to be "level"
and DS9 had ships fly in all directions in the combat scenes during the dominion war

my main nit with this episode is: how does restarting the <i>engines</i> have any effect on the program running in the <i>computer</i>

Fok 02-27-05 01:04 AM

Not a bad episode, but overall its still a weak series. Scott Bakula doesn't play the tough guy really well.....hopefully Al will show up and he'll leap to a better show.

MvRojo 02-27-05 02:11 AM


Originally Posted by Cartload
I really enjoyed the Klingon headridge arc despite my initial misgivings about doing such a story. However, 2 things that I noticed:

1) Trip had an Enterprise patch on his uniform and spacesuit instead of the Columbia insignia.
2) How was the virus beamed onto the Klingon ship through their shields?

1) The uniform is easy to explain since he came to Enterprise in the EV suit and had to just get an Enterprise uniform since he didn't bring his Columbia uniform. The EV suits could be specially sized and made for each person (since it does have their names on it) and he might not have had time to get the patch changed.

2) The only thing I can think is that they knew the Klingon shield frequency. They could be stupid enough to all use the same one and the transporters are automatically set to beam through them.

Red Dog 02-27-05 08:40 AM

Do the Klingons have shield technology yet? Enterprise doesn't, so it isn't a stretch to believe that the Klingons don't.

mikehunt 02-27-05 12:16 PM

klingons have shields. reed mentioned them

maxpower 02-27-05 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by mikehunt

my main nit with this episode is: how does restarting the <i>engines</i> have any effect on the program running in the <i>computer</i>

Norton Anti-Virus 2k154

das Monkey 02-27-05 02:37 PM

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...ek_cadd107.jpg


Jake Byrd from Chino, Calif., right, wearing a Michael Jackson (news) t-shirt, jokes with a fan dressed as the film Star Wars' character Darth Vader, as they join about a hundred Star Trek fans upset by the cancellation of the shows latest series, Star Trek: Enterprise, at a rally Friday, Feb. 25, 2005, outside the Paramount Studios in Los Angeles. Paramount announced the cancellation jointly with UPN, which has seen ratings fall since its first episode in 2001. The show averaged 2.9 million viewers this season, compared with 5.9 million an episode in 2001. UPN plans to air the last program on May 13. (AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes)
Oh, how far we've come ...

das

Fok 02-28-05 01:07 AM

Cool Vader suit

Chew 02-28-05 06:16 AM

Wow, a hundred people showed up to protest? The suits must really be shaking in their boots over that show of support. :rolleyes:

Wow, that opening sequence looked pretty sweet in HD. :)

Too bad we might not find out who returns the Klingons to their rightful appearance a century or so later. I agree with a previous post, the initial human/Klingon meetings aren't going according to Trek lore. Hardly unexpected though. ;)

Red Dog 02-28-05 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Chew
Too bad we might not find out who returns the Klingons to their rightful appearance a century or so later. I agree with a previous post, the initial human/Klingon meetings aren't going according to Trek lore. Hardly unexpected though. ;)


Maybe they just develop a natural immunity to it.


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