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maingon 02-10-05 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by KirstenS
Unfortunately, I lost interest in this show a couple weeks ago. I say unfortunately because it was the most promising new show I had seen in a long time. There was just too much foreplay and no payoff. I got tired of week after week having cliffhangers with no answers in the next episode. :(

i still like the show and will watch it but i agree with you. All we get is questions. they havent been one answer yet to anything on the show really. All we get is flashbacks before the plane crash. I will still watch but its getting boring just having just flashbacks and very little progress or no progress on the storylines in the island

cleaver 02-10-05 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Ranger
How did Ethan do that whooshing thing? Is he riding around the jungle on his broomstick or what?

I believe it was bolo balls.

I was waiting for Kate to go Matrix on Ethan, Boars, Polar Bears, and whoever when she got the gun. I'm convinced she can whup Locke. I'll take 7 episodes of her backstory over 2 seconds more of Jack's or Michael's.

Big Boy Laroux 02-10-05 10:58 AM

no, as someone mentioned earlier, it was a sling. he was holding the leather strap thing when he walked up to charlie.

Jim 02-10-05 10:59 AM

The show's lack of answers to any of the questions surrounding the island is getting old for me. I think it would help the show if they let the viewers in on what the island was about. Then we could see how the survivors handle it. As it is, it's beginning to seem like a pointless exercise that they'll never explain, if they even have a coherent explanation.

LorenzoL 02-10-05 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by maingon
i still like the show and will watch it but i agree with you. All we get is questions. they havent been one answer yet to anything on the show really. All we get is flashbacks before the plane crash. I will still watch but its getting boring just having just flashbacks and very little progress or no progress on the storylines in the island

Just don't understand why people complain that this show is too slow -ohbfrank-

We finally get a well written show and people start complaining about being:
a) too boring
b) not enough "monsters"
c) not enough answers to the show mysteries.

Don't people understand that if they give you all of the answers right away they wouldn't be a need for more seasons.

Cusm 02-10-05 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by LorenzoL
Just don't understand why people complain that this show is too slow -ohbfrank-

We finally get a well written show and people start complaining about being:
a) too boring
b) not enough "monsters"
c) not enough answers to the show mysteries.

Don't people understand that if they give you all of the answers right away they wouldn't be a need for more seasons.


It is like revisting the old Carnivale threads. I am happy with the pacing of the show. Any faster and it would seem like every other show out there. I want answers, but this just means I jones really bad for the next episode. I do not want this wrapped up at the end of the hour.

Mithrandir 02-10-05 11:49 AM

Although I hated that they killed Ethan before they got any answers, Charlie killing him was believable to me. After all, the guy tried to kill Charlie and came extremely close to succeeding. I probably would have killed the son of a bitch too.

BDB 02-10-05 12:13 PM

I agree with what someone posted earlier about the x-files redux.

This show should have been scripted as a 2 season arc. What happens in 9 years? All still on the island, new plane crash? a colony?

gettinbranded 02-10-05 12:17 PM

Claire ran really fast to be pregnant...hmm...

Bronkster 02-10-05 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by LorenzoL
Just don't understand why people complain that this show is too slow -ohbfrank-

We finally get a well written show and people start complaining about being:
a) too boring
b) not enough "monsters"
c) not enough answers to the show mysteries.

Don't people understand that if they give you all of the answers right away they wouldn't be a need for more seasons.

Fully agree! I'm so tired of the type show that has a big mystery that gets resolved by someone at the last moment in every episode. You want quick answers to island mysteries - watch Gilligan. I love the pacing of Lost and I appreciate how things are left for us to wonder about.

Good episode last night. I already deleted it of the DVR so I can't go back to see how Ethan had been making his appearances, as someone mentioned. Maybe when Ethan killed Steve (or Scott?? shit, I'm confused now too!) on the beach, and they assumed he came in from the water, it was perhaps another mystery hatch that we don't know about!

SMB-IL 02-10-05 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by LorenzoL
Just don't understand why people complain that this show is too slow -ohbfrank-

We finally get a well written show and people start complaining about being:
a) too boring
b) not enough "monsters"
c) not enough answers to the show mysteries.

Don't people understand that if they give you all of the answers right away they wouldn't be a need for more seasons.

ONE answer!! Has ANYTHING been answered at all? If so, what? Did I miss it?

And I don't believe that Ethan is dead for a minute....

Pharoh 02-10-05 12:30 PM

It took me about fifteen minutes to get into tonight's episode, perhaps because of the two week hiatus, but once I did I thought it was a very good episode. The pacing was very good, and we see even more of the personal relationships that is really what the show is about. We are beginning to see even more of who and what these people are becoming. :up:

One question though, did the show look different than previous episodes to anybody else?

Chew 02-10-05 12:34 PM

I'm not sure I should be posting this at all given the hostility in this thread toward the show and "answers", but here it goes:

TVGuide had a little blurb on the DVD release of this show. In addition to saying it will be released in time for next season, one of the featurettes is supposed to answer a question the show hasn't: the plane crash.

So all those complaining about the pacing can just stop watching now and wait to get the boxset. :)

Snowmaker 02-10-05 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by SMB-IL
ONE answer!! Has ANYTHING been answered at all? If so, what? Did I miss it?...

A lot of the questions of certain peoples' back stories have been answered. Where they were from, why they were on the plane, who the daddy of Claire's baby is, etc.

Cusm 02-10-05 12:48 PM

I am so glad the net was not what it is today when Twin Peaks originally aired. Imagine all the pissed off post concerning it's lack of answers, even with the movie.

Groucho 02-10-05 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bronkster
Maybe when Ethan killed Steve (or Scott?? shit, I'm confused now too!) on the beach, and they assumed he came in from the water, it was perhaps another mystery hatch that we don't know about!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/134500...urvus2_150.jpg

LorenzoL 02-10-05 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by SMB-IL
ONE answer!! Has ANYTHING been answered at all? If so, what? Did I miss it?

And I don't believe that Ethan is dead for a minute....

I think what you looking for is the answer about the island? Where they are, the "monster", the "power" it may possess?

Trust me, I want to know them as badly as you do. However, I understand what the creator and writers of the show are trying to do and I give them the benefit of the doubt now (with having watched enough episodes) that they will at least give us at least some sort of explanation to one of those questions, before season's end (hopefully).

I was a huge Twin Peaks fan and the pacing of that show was even more maddening than Lost.

LorenzoL 02-10-05 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Cusm
I am so glad the net was not what it is today when Twin Peaks originally aired. Imagine all the pissed off post concerning it's lack of answers, even with the movie.

I was writing my response when you posted this Cusm, but that's exactly what I pointed out.

I could see it now, "Can somebody please tell me who killed Laura Palmer?", "Who's Bob", What's wrong with Nadine? What's up with the Log Lady? and other such things.

fallfan 02-10-05 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Tscott
Basically, the husband was asking the wife if she knew what was happening, and she kept saying she didn't know. Nothing much else was said, but I sort of got the idea from his questions that he might have begun to suspect that she knows more than she's letting on.

Thanks for the explanation!

Jim 02-10-05 01:24 PM

It's not that we need all the answers right now, it's just that I don't feel like they're even peeling back the layers to begin unraveling the mystery.

We haven't seen the French woman for about 2 months. Wouldn't you expect people to be searching for her?

Locke and Boone uncovered some sort of chamber or something but we haven't seen that in about a month. Much of that time is due to reruns, but as far as the weekly viewer is concerned it hasn't been explored.

These seem like major things that any person on the island would want to investigate further immediately.

adamblast 02-10-05 01:48 PM

I have to agree that, while I love the show--and it's likely to be one of my favorites for a long time--they have to start making some serious storyline progressions and "reveals" soon. Things have to change.

Far too many times now we've seen something--the monster, the french woman, the underground door, the boy with powers, Ethan--and been led to think: Holy Crap! This changes everything!! Only find out: nope, nothing's changed, nothing's happened, no one knows anything, it's just another day on the island... That in itself starts to feel like cheating after awhile.

Patman 02-10-05 01:55 PM

I read that Philly's Y100 radio station offered some speculation that Ethan is the polar bear, and his scratches on his face were from Michael jabbing the knife at the bear while he was in that tree bundle after rescuing Walt from there in a previous episode.

Just food for thought since we all know the rampant, nutty, speculation is the best part of the show, for now.

Big Boy Laroux 02-10-05 02:05 PM

yeah, but the bear was stabbed in and around his leg and chest, right?

i think they are answering smaller questions, but not the big ones. so far, the only big one they've answered is "who is the french woman?"

personally i don't mind the pacing.

freudguy 02-10-05 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Jim
It's not that we need all the answers right now, it's just that I don't feel like they're even peeling back the layers to begin unraveling the mystery.

We haven't seen the French woman for about 2 months. Wouldn't you expect people to be searching for her?

Locke and Boone uncovered some sort of chamber or something but we haven't seen that in about a month. Much of that time is due to reruns, but as far as the weekly viewer is concerned it hasn't been explored.

These seem like major things that any person on the island would want to investigate further immediately.

This part of what I was talking about. There have been HUGE plot points brought up that seem to have just been laid by the wayside. As for the people that talked about viewers like me being too hasty in wanting everything tied up, horseshit. I don't want everything explained to me in an episode, I don't even want everything to be explained by season's end. But I don't feel there has been any progression. At least X-Files gave clues which gave enough info for a speculative opinion.
Don't get me wrong, I love Lost. But it's 15 shows into the season and I don't know a single thing more as to the nature of the island except more questions. However, I think part of this is due to the fact that the writers are building up the characters, letting us get acquainted with them. They are taking time for character development, which is great. So, ultimately, I'm torn between liking the fact that I am getting to know the characters but I am getting aggravated that the show seems to be stuck in a loop right now.

But also think of this:
How much background info do we need on the characters before it becomes redundant? If this show goes on for several more seasons, the plot structure will have to be revamped because 5+ season of flashbacks wouldn't make sense & would become damn boring, IMHO.

DocBrass 02-10-05 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by LorenzoL
I was writing my response when you posted this Cusm, but that's exactly what I pointed out.

I could see it now, "Can somebody please tell me who killed Laura Palmer?", "Who's Bob", What's wrong with Nadine? What's up with the Log Lady? and other such things.

and why is Laura Palmer's dad all hoped up on smack and sleeping with his daughter?!?!?!" :)


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