Apprentice 11/25/04
 

Andy is being a total idiot. Trying to bribe the design team, and then not letting them have pizza. I think that he is gone, hopefully.

I want Andy to be gone, but I think the writing is on the wall for Sandy. Too bad. She is a hottie, and she has gone far with no education, without having the facf shoved down our throats like Troy from S1.

Andy's done!

His ideas sucked.

I hope so, but I doubt it. I really think that there was foreshadowing for Sandy going.

Bye Bye Andy!

I'm glad Sandy called the others on their scheming. This is not Survivor!

Wow, Sandy went out fighting.

Jenn sold out Andy when she told her that she had spoken with Andy beforehand.

If Andy were on this show with 5 years of work experience, he would've done a lot better.

That bribing of the design team and not letting them eat was stupid. Plus that bottle was FUGLY!

Loved how she just went off on them both! Nice to see Andy sitting there like a little boy who'd just peed his pants unable to come up with anything to defend himself. Great ending--go Sandy.

Andy had to go, but I think he went too early.

Okay so you have to be a woman or gay to watch the Academy Awards? I guess I am gay then....Iguana or whatever her name is needs to go.

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And that world bottle was fuckin ugly! Deserved to lose.

After seeing clips for next week's episode, does anyone think it will
come down to Kevin and Kelly? Sandy may have prolonged her execution, but I don't see any of the women lasting much longer.

Sandy really surprised me in the boardroom and deserved to stay
for that alone. I was thinking that her stuttering around during the prentation would come up but it didn't.

Andy's bribing the design team with cash and making them smell pizza while not allowing them to eat was idiotic. His helpless behavior and betrayal by Jenn in the boardroom was the nail in the coffin but I think he deserved it.

I wasn't a big fan of Kelly's going into this task but that bottle design was brilliant.

I was hoping that Iguana would wreck that Lamborghini like she did Daddy's Porsche but no such luck.

I liked Andy on the prior tasks, but he was terrible here. Actually, his whole team was pretty bad. The bottle looked ridiculous, which is strange because in theory in didn't sound bad. But the final product was ugly. I suppose I expected something a bit more subtle, and without the graphics. But Sandy's idea for it was almost worse. A big round thing? Like vendors would want to (or be able to) stock those akward things.

As for the board room, Andy did get eaten alive but I thought Trump's 'debate champ' comment missed the mark. I wouldn't consider Sandy's tactic of nonstop talking without letting anyone else get a word in edgewise as a fair debate technique. She was correct in calling them out, but the "talking louder and repeating the same thing over and over as the other person tries to respond" techniqu was a bit cheap and Trump should have recognized that and at least gave Andy a chance to say his peace.

Ivana is a little nympho and I would hit the ass off of her.

trump likes loud overbearing people. that is why the quiet guy from Goldman Sachs lost last season

I know, my wife and I were like Sandy shutup! But it worked in her favor.

Kwame Jackson

Ditto.

Anywho, that bottle design was incredible. Apex deserved to win just because of that alone.

I like how Carolyn's started sniffing around Jen's getting by under the radar.

I had to miss this week's ep, plus barely got a glance at last week's. Do you mean to tell me that the stupid goon IVANA is *still* there?? How she has lasted this long is completely beyond me. Is there any chance in hell she could win? God, I hope not. I'm basing that on my extreme dislike of her and her childishness, and nothing else, so I guess I'm not being fair, but she irks the $hit out of me.

Hate to hear that Andy had to go. I did like him. But I figured in the beginning his inexperience would lead to his downfall. What the hell is this with bribing and not sharing pizza? That sounds juvenile... Man, I wish I'd seen this one. (No Tivo for me.)

Forgive me for being unsure of his name, but the black guy is still there, right? I hope so. He has been the *only* one out of the whole ignorant bunch who seemed like he had some sense, and most of all, decorum - the only one who hasn't made himself look like a fool. I'm rooting for him, if he's still there. I just haven't been able to keep up with the show the way I'd like. :(

I'll catch it next time, though. So how many is that down to? Even though I missed most of last week, I do know that two got canned, Blinky and whatshisname. Blinky! God, she was annoying. I guess they pick the most annoying people possible. Well, duh. But still.

My most, Most Detested Ever out of the whole bunch was Pamela, though and I rejoiced when she choked. She was utterly useless. And the guy I liked a lot at first got it right in the very beginning - for trying to be all noble and stuff, Bradford. He seemed like a nice guy. Guess nice guys aren't what Trump's looking for.

I love George and Carolyn (sp?) I love those camera zoom-ins of the scowling and dramatic stares. The editors get an A+ on this show.

Carolyn was on Conan a while back. She was actually quite amusing and charming. She reminded me of Princess Di, RIP.

Very much so. I mentioned that to a few people last year when I first saw her.

If you ever see her getting interviewed, she is pretty laid back and funny.

Trump had a good point in the board room when Andy was being turn apart by the two girls even though he is a national debate champion. He handled himself alright last week and I think that's why he prolonged his stay but he wasn't going to make it to the end anyway.

That globe bottle would have looked fine, if only they didn't have the typical school globe colors. If they had the globe red and blue and white, it would have looked just fine.

Nice reward! Oh how I would love to drive one of those sweet Lamborghinis.

These people suck. Ivana is an idiot. Jenn is a moron. Sandy is OK, but she needs an education. Kevin is OK, kind of vanilla though. He hasn't really distinguished himself. Kelly wins by virtue of everyone else stinking up the joint.

The "edge" bottle (with the hole) was very cool. I wonder if pepsi will actually produce it. If they do, would Ivana, Kevin and Kelly have any claim on a portion of the design deal? The "globe" bottle just looked stupid. You couldn't see the contents. The colors were painful to the eyes. The bulbous shape was just ugly. Andy really acted like an amateur with his caffeine-induced antics, the so-called cash "tips" and the withholding pizza like this was a grade school project or something. Give me a break dude.

The Edge bottle was really cool but one thing that really bothered me about it, it wouldn't feel good in your hand. I can't picture people carrying that around and drinking from it. I would have shaped it like a Tivo remote.

I kept thinking it would be difficult, if not impossible, to blow mold a bottle like that. Cool is one thing, but you have to be able to economically make them. You can't have that expensive machine make each bottle.

But then I design stuff for a living and often run into the "it looks cool!" designer vs the engineer.

Sorry about Andy... but what is it about people that make them get stupid when they become the PM? The paying money and pizza was silly... and he looked (well most of them look) like they can't really take input and work as a team.

I am not seeing any one person really qualified to win at this point. Maybe someone that was already fired.

Personally, I think that the globe bottle would've been fine if it was just a clear bottle with the continents imprinted on the bottle (i.e. the continents are raised slightly).

That's what I was thinking, or if they just had it in the background of the label, like the Amazing Race logo (not in the school globe colors, of course). This would mean that there would only be one label, not like what they actually did.

I'm sure they signed an "all ideas/creations/etc from the show remain the sole property of The Trumpster!" type of disclaimer/contract.

Kevin and Kelly in the finals. Kevin needs to work on the public speaking sweats and Kelly needs to play better with others, but both are the strongest two IMHO.

The best part about this episode was the fake "Taxicab Interview."

Clearly. :D

I finally watched the latest episode, and I found it funny that Jennifer was extremely quick to parrot everything the Donald said to her. That's her way of currying the favor of the Donald (Carolyn does it too).

If I were the Donald, would I want someone like Sandy who sounded like the angry chihuahua on crack working for me, or someone who didn't lower themselves to her level. Andy was "damned if he does and damned if he doesn't" when it came to screaming back at Sandy. He took the high road, and the Donald proceeded to use that to describe the 2 women flanking to left and right as "pummelling" him, which was bogus.

Now, Andy did deserve to shoulder most of the blame because his use of pizza and money to inspire his design team was so 8th grade. That's what he should have been fired for, not because he choose not to scream back at Sandy in the boardroom.

Anyhow, from day 1, this show's reliance on the Donald to make the final decision just makes this show pretty bloated, and obviously I don't find it must-see-that-night TV anymore since it took me over 3 days to finally get to the latest episode.

I think Raj might have a great future as a driver on "Taxi Cab Confessions".

:rotfl:

The latest episode was kind of boring. Nothing really happened that was at all exciting, but what are you gonna do.


Honestly I am still pissed off Raj was let go. I still don't know how Ivana, Kevin, and Jennifer are still left. Maybe Trump is partial to women named Ivana, Jennifer is a hottie so she is going to use that to squeak by.

Jennifer is no hottie, in my opinion. Sandy is way prettier.

It's always been like this though. The person who gets fired, very often deserves it, but it's always for some BS reason.

I agree. The only time that Jennifer looked really good was the Levis episode.

I'd rank them:
1. Elizabeth
2. Sandy
3. Jennifer (black hair)
4. Jennifer (blonde)