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Old 10-28-04 | 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by datagirl7
But not if she was being watched by security from her father as was suggested. If she was being watched, I suppose she could learn online or something but I don't think her pronunciation and flow would be that good if she hardly ever spoke to English speakers.
Well, there is a huge difference in having security to watch her and having security to protect her. They would probably keep a distance and didn't care when/if friends, etc. people visited her or she them. It's quite possible they wouldn't think it a big deal to mention even if she went directly into a English school, since they were never told to report on her, just to make sure no one snacths her up since she is a liability.

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I find it odd how great her English is. Learning English in Korea would make you sound very different than a Korean who learned English in America.
This is totally wrong and a false sterotype. It is totally possible to learn a language without a heavy accent anywhere in the world...and any language. Shoot, some Koreans in LA have been her 40 years and have accents thicker than the phone book while others I have met have been here for a year or two and have no trace of an accent.

Besides, just check out Dave's ESL cafe. Most English teachers in Korea (or at least a large portion) are native English speakers. Many schools wont even hire Asain Americans who have lived here their entire life.
Old 10-28-04 | 08:12 PM
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Old 10-28-04 | 08:16 PM
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who did the song at the end? very nice use, btw.

I thought it sounded like Willie Nelson, but my wife disagreed.
Old 10-28-04 | 08:21 PM
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I was also wondering if Willie Nelson was on the island because it would have been a stretch if that voice belonged to Charlie as we see hom strumming his newly found guitar.
Old 10-28-04 | 08:27 PM
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When I saw the survivors split, the first thing that came to mind was Stephen King's "The Stand". Oooooh the possibilities....
I was thinking Lord of the Flys myself.
Old 10-28-04 | 09:28 PM
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"Looked like it was full of C's to me"

Old 10-28-04 | 09:46 PM
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From: Capitol of the Empire! Center of all Commerce and Culture! Crossroads of Civilization! NEW ROME!!!...aka New York City
Two stones...one light...one dark...one good...one evil

Two Tribes...one beach...one cave...one fire...one water

Beach

Hillbilly jackass
Escaped Fugitive
Iraqi Officer
Deadbeat Dad

Cave

Surgon
Cool hunter guy
Fat nice guy
Comic relief rocker

Only two people are in the wrong tribe...the Korean mysogonist and the innocent semi-orphan kid, but there BALANCED by the person thier tied to...frightened housewife and deadbeat dad

Both tribes have a Leader and vice leader
Jack-hunter
Said-Kate

The brother-sister would also be a couple who would be torn by the split.

So what happens, does access to water become an issue, or does fresh fish caught on the beach get hidden from the other tribe?

Do we now have Survivor with a script?
Old 10-28-04 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by datagirl7
I'm wondering how she learned English without anyone noticing.
I don't believe she had security in her home...and with all the time her husband was working, she could have easily had a teacher come over and teach her.

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Old 10-28-04 | 10:26 PM
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I was also wondering if Willie Nelson was on the island because it would have been a stretch if that voice belonged to Charlie as we see hom strumming his newly found guitar.
Hurley starts his CD player and puts on headphones; presumably "Are You Sure?" by Nelson is what he's listening to as we hear it.
Old 10-28-04 | 10:55 PM
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OK, why do they have an axe? Why would an axe be on the plane?

I also had the thought immediately after the show ended of why doesn't everyone move to the caves and they have people watch the beach in shifts. Also, why haven't they coverd the beach with a giant S O S yet?

It took someone 8 days to find a $20,000 gold watch in the plane wreckage?
Old 10-28-04 | 11:17 PM
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sounded like Willie to me.
Old 10-29-04 | 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by rabbit77
I find it odd how great her English is. Learning English in Korea would make you sound very different than a Korean who learned English in America.
Maybe she went to a college in the US to study before meeting Sun. This is common practice for most well to do Korean families in order to "improve" their kids education.

Maybe she just never bothered to tell Sun about her education.
Old 10-29-04 | 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by rfduncan
It certainly stands to reason that he is since why else (based on the earlier explanation of Korean class structures and traditions) would he allow Jin to marry up? Sun is shocked because at that time she had little idea how her father made money. It makes sense that an organized crime type would see Jin as a hard worker who would be an asset to the family and the FAMILY.

That and well the blood all over him and the tough guy persona Jin now has.
You guys maybe right but I still have my doubts.
Old 10-29-04 | 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Tommy Ceez
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Surgon

...the Korean mysogonist and the innocent semi-orphan kid, but there BALANCED by the person thier tied to...frightened housewife and deadbeat dad

...Said-Kate...
Good LORD! Talk about Engrish for Dummies!
Old 10-29-04 | 09:12 AM
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hey, since i completely missed this episode and there is no chance of a recap, is there a website or can somebody tell me what happened in this episode, thanks apreciate it
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com is where I go for show recaps. It sometimes takes a day or two after a show has aired though.
Old 10-29-04 | 09:27 AM
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OK, why do they have an axe? Why would an axe be on the plane?

I also had the thought immediately after the show ended of why doesn't everyone move to the caves and they have people watch the beach in shifts. Also, why haven't they coverd the beach with a giant S O S yet?

It took someone 8 days to find a $20,000 gold watch in the plane wreckage?
Planes carry one or more fire axes, kept near the fire extinguishers. I have no idea how useful they are in event of fire but I've noticed them.
Old 10-29-04 | 10:48 AM
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Thinking back to the Locke episode ... what was the device that he turned off while talking to the phone-sex operator?
Old 10-29-04 | 10:49 AM
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Someone guessed it might have been some sort of stimulation device for his legs.
Old 10-29-04 | 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by OldDude
From Seoul, you certainly wouldn't connect to LA in Sydney. Check globe. (He might have had business there.)

In the real world, there are definitely flights from Seoul to Chicago, Detroit, New York. From Sydney, reaching LA is about the limit. From East Coast, to get to Australia, you either go to LA, then direct, or fly to a connection airport like Narita (Tokyo) or to Seoul and then fly to Australia.
Direct flights from the East Coast to Korea? I had no idea. I figured if you were crossing the Pacific, you pretty much had to go through L.A. or San Francisco.

But I agree with you that flying through Sydney makes no sense. I would have expected you to have to connect through Tokyo or maybe Shanghai, but I guess Soeul's airport is bigger than I thought.
Old 10-29-04 | 11:48 AM
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This is totally wrong and a false sterotype. It is totally possible to learn a language without a heavy accent anywhere in the world...and any language. Shoot, some Koreans in LA have been her 40 years and have accents thicker than the phone book while others I have met have been here for a year or two and have no trace of an accent.

Besides, just check out Dave's ESL cafe. Most English teachers in Korea (or at least a large portion) are native English speakers. Many schools wont even hire Asain Americans who have lived here their entire life.
It's not a false stereotype, it's my observation. I'm speaking from experience. My wife is Korean and hanging out with her family and friends it's quite obvious who learned English here and who learned English in Korea.

You really need to immerse yourself into an English speaking culture to entirely shed the accent, even moreso if it's your second language. And to support my point even more, Yoon-jin Kim became fluent by living in America and graduating from college here.

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Old 10-29-04 | 01:02 PM
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Direct flights from the East Coast to Korea? I had no idea. I figured if you were crossing the Pacific, you pretty much had to go through L.A. or San Francisco.

But I agree with you that flying through Sydney makes no sense. I would have expected you to have to connect through Tokyo or maybe Shanghai, but I guess Soeul's airport is bigger than I thought.
Northwest definitely flies Detroit to Seoul. I'm pretty sure there is service from New York, too. You have to look at a globe or calculate great circle distances. It changes the initial heading slightly, but the route really isn't much longer.

This site will calculate distance and draw a map, but you have to look up the airport codes.
http://gc.kls2.com/
Old 10-29-04 | 05:44 PM
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Daniel Dae Kim, the actor who plays Jin, is terrible at speaking Korean. I cringe all the time when he speaks. You can totally tell that Korean is not his first language.
Old 10-29-04 | 06:21 PM
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I flew into Seattle when I left Pusan (layover in Kadena AFB ). And if Australia is so out of the way from Korea, why then, is it suggested to go to Australia or Japan on leave instead of coming back to the States - if its so far out of the way? I thought Australia was only a four hour flight from Seoul? Though it could be that Japan was only four hours.
Old 10-29-04 | 06:51 PM
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Australia is closer to Seoul than the US; its just in a different direction, so if you're trying to go to US, going via Sydney is a huge detour, like going New York --> Los Angeles --> Miami instead of New York to Miami.

Japan is close. Tokyo is 783 miles from Seoul. Sydney is 5164, and Los Angeles is 5994.

Sydney to Los Angeles is 7488 miles, and I think approaching range limit of long-haul 747s.
Old 10-29-04 | 08:11 PM
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Daniel Dae Kim, the actor who plays Jin, is terrible at speaking Korean. I cringe all the time when he speaks. You can totally tell that Korean is not his first language.
No, you can totally tell that Korean isn't his first language.

Not questioning the veracity of what you write, I'm sure it's true, but it's not much of an issue to us non-specialists.

Also, that is (as I also thought) a Willie Nelson song. From @ 1965, when he had short hair, was clean shaven and was making money mostly because people like Patsy Cline were recording his songs while his own records sold mainly to a small group of aficionados.

That was actually the first time I'd ever heard it. It's a wonderful song, kind of in the vein of Night Life and Funny How Time Slips Away (i.e., utterly and completely brilliant.)

http://www.luma-electronic.cz/lp/n/Nelson/nelson1.htm


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