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GuessWho 10-28-04 11:11 AM


Originally posted by Tandem
I've got it!

They will split into two tribes. The beach dwellers will be known as the Eloi. They will lie around on the beach all day and build fires at night to protect themselves from the evil Morlock tribe.

The cave dwellers or Morlocks will toil at rebuilding society as they remember it by constructing crude machinery in their underground caverns. They will become over-sensitive to the sunlight and only be able to come out of their dark caves at night at which time they will prey on the defenseless Eloi.

:lol:

Just letting you know that at least one person got your joke.

rfduncan 10-28-04 11:18 AM


Originally posted by Verbal Gorilla
Finally, I guess only English speakers can go on vaction to places where they don't speak a lick of the language...
Then why do they only make flight announcements in the Korean airport in English for flights to Singapore? :lol:;)

Morf 10-28-04 11:23 AM


Originally posted by ruk
i missed this episode, does anyone know if they will air it again, thanks
Nope. New shows don't typically rerun their episodes until the offseason, if at all, when they aren't syndicated.

Mazje 10-28-04 11:32 AM

Might I also add that if we explore enough caves, we might eventually find pylons? And how, exactly, are the beach dwellers going to ward off the Sleestaks?


Also, who thinks Locke is going to die before he reveals whatever it is he saw to the other survivors?

DaveNinja 10-28-04 11:34 AM

ok, i want to figure out what happened in this episode with respect to Sun.
Did she and her husband run away from her fathers business to start a new life? Or, did she try to run away and was caught by her husband? Or, did she pass on the chance and later in life (before this flight) saw that it was 11:15 and it reminded her of her missed chance? Or, did she wish she was on a island that granted wishes and had polar bears and it came true?

next week episode isnt going to be on here because of a basketball game. sucko!

datagirl7 10-28-04 11:35 AM


Originally posted by Verbal Gorilla
I The only reason I can see is that based on her father's business, she probably had 24/7 security in Korea. This idea is strenghten by the line, "They'll assumes you were kidnapped".

I'm wondering how she learned English without anyone noticing.

Snowmaker 10-28-04 11:35 AM


Originally posted by Morf
Nope. New shows don't typically rerun their episodes until the offseason, if at all, when they aren't syndicated.
Not true. They've rerun a lot of the Lost episodes on Saturday nights. They did two full hours just last Saturday.

Red Dog 10-28-04 11:37 AM

Where was the hot blonde chick this episode?

JasonF 10-28-04 11:41 AM


Originally posted by Morf
Nope. New shows don't typically rerun their episodes until the offseason, if at all, when they aren't syndicated.
ABC has been rerunning Lost and Desperate Housewives on Saturdays. I know they are rerunning last week's DH this Saturday; I don't know whether they are also rerunning Lost, but I would guess that they are.

Mazje 10-28-04 11:45 AM

I was under the impression they were only rerunning them during the World Series. Now that it's over...they may stop this practice (I hope not, since it's a great way to catch up if you miss it). So be warned.

JasonF 10-28-04 11:47 AM


Originally posted by DaveNinja
ok, i want to figure out what happened in this episode with respect to Sun.
Did she and her husband run away from her fathers business to start a new life? Or, did she try to run away and was caught by her husband? Or, did she pass on the chance and later in life (before this flight) saw that it was 11:15 and it reminded her of her missed chance? Or, did she wish she was on a island that granted wishes and had polar bears and it came true?

next week episode isnt going to be on here because of a basketball game. sucko!

Her father is in organized crime. Her then-boyfriend got involved with her father's organization as a condition of being able to maryr her. Working for her criminal father corrupted him from the nice waiter who gave her a flower to the evil gangster who came home with blood on his shirt. The passage of time was indicated by the growth of the puppy into a full grown dog, and the cruelty of Jin was showcased by his angry command to Sun that she get the dog away from him.

Jin and Sun were going from Korea to L.A. We don't know why, and it's probably not important. Sun was going to take the opportunity to run away. She hooked up with a group that would help her escape, took some classes to learn English, and met with her contact, who disguised herself as Sun's interior decorator. The plan was for Sun to make a break for it at the Sydney Airport at 11:15. But Sun chickened out when the time came, in part due to her memories of what a nice guy Jin had been when he was just a waiter. So she and Jin got on the plane to L.A. and wound up on the Island of Magical Wishing Robot Dinosaur Polar Bears.

The airport announcement about the flight to Singapore was just an airport announcement. Jack had just finished at the ticket counter and Jin and Sun were still waiting in line; the fact that Oceania Airlines had a flight to Singapore preparing for departure had nothing to do with their flight to Los Angeles.

Chew 10-28-04 11:50 AM


Originally posted by darthlurker
I was under the impression they were only rerunning them during the World Series. Now that it's over...they may stop this practice (I hope not, since it's a great way to catch up if you miss it). So be warned.
There was a recent USAToday article talking about Saturday night repeats. The networks are very happy with them as they still bring in good ratings, but don't cost anything. From the article, I got the impression we shouldn't expect this new tactic to change anytime soon.

JasonF 10-28-04 11:56 AM


Originally posted by darthlurker
I was under the impression they were only rerunning them during the World Series. Now that it's over...they may stop this practice (I hope not, since it's a great way to catch up if you miss it). So be warned.
I decided to check ABC.com It turns out they are running Monsters Inc. followed by Desperate Housewives on Saturday. There's no indication they plan to rerun this week's episode of Lost. Sorry, ruk.

tofu 10-28-04 12:00 PM


Originally posted by datagirl7
I'm wondering how she learned English without anyone noticing.
Well, if your husband works all day and leaves you at home with the dog, I'd imagine that it's not that hard.

Groucho 10-28-04 12:02 PM


Originally posted by ruk
i missed this episode, does anyone know if they will air it again, thanks
If you look around a bit, you might find a torrent of ways to watch the episode.

Triple S 10-28-04 12:34 PM

This episode will air again on Nov 6th.

DaveNinja 10-28-04 12:53 PM

Thanks for the recap JasonF. i just wasnt sure what went on between the interior decorator scene and the airport scene.

I bet the call for the flight to singapore was for the polar bears and t-rex, thats why their plane crashed on the other side of the island and why their pissed.

Keith123 10-28-04 12:56 PM


Originally posted by LorenzoL
Can anybody give me a recap of next week episode in the spoiler tags based on the promo?

Here in Canada, they did not show the promo for next week since they were advertising a new time on Monday at 8pm. Made it sound like they were going to be repeats but I'm not 100% sure.

Here ya go...
Spoiler:
Charlie is shown running from something- possibly the Island "Monster". Kate says Sayid has a plan to "find the source of the distress call" but she and Sayid do not trust Sawyer in this quest. Charlie asks for his drugs back from Locke. Charlie and Jack are in one of the caves when it appears to collapse with Charlie escaping but Kate asking about Jack- "is he alive?!"

Keith123 10-28-04 01:00 PM

Excellent recap on Jin and Sun, JasonF. Thanks.

LorenzoL 10-28-04 01:02 PM

My initial suspicions of the Korean couple was that they got together through an arranged marriage.

However after watching this episode, I was shocked to see that they were actually in love with each other when they met. Being that Jin was of a lower social status than Sun, he basically sold his "soul" to the devil (in a way) in order to get together with her.

In Korean society, social status and standing is very relevant still in order to get the consent of the parents for the union. They don't look too kindly of a person with lower social status (especially if it's a guy) to ask permission for marriage.

LorenzoL 10-28-04 01:04 PM


Originally posted by JasonF
Her father is in organized crime. Her then-boyfriend got involved with her father's organization as a condition of being able to maryr her. Working for her criminal father corrupted him from the nice waiter who gave her a flower to the evil gangster who came home with blood on his shirt. The passage of time was indicated by the growth of the puppy into a full grown dog, and the cruelty of Jin was showcased by his angry command to Sun that she get the dog away from him.

Jin and Sun were going from Korea to L.A. We don't know why, and it's probably not important. Sun was going to take the opportunity to run away. She hooked up with a group that would help her escape, took some classes to learn English, and met with her contact, who disguised herself as Sun's interior decorator. The plan was for Sun to make a break for it at the Sydney Airport at 11:15. But Sun chickened out when the time came, in part due to her memories of what a nice guy Jin had been when he was just a waiter. So she and Jin got on the plane to L.A. and wound up on the Island of Magical Wishing Robot Dinosaur Polar Bears.

The airport announcement about the flight to Singapore was just an airport announcement. Jack had just finished at the ticket counter and Jin and Sun were still waiting in line; the fact that Oceania Airlines had a flight to Singapore preparing for departure had nothing to do with their flight to Los Angeles.

JasonF, I agree with you in everything that you have indicated above with the exception that I'm still not 100% sure that Jin's father is in the mob.

rfduncan 10-28-04 01:25 PM


Originally posted by LorenzoL
JasonF, I agree with you in everything that you have indicated above with the exception that I'm still not 100% sure that Jin's father is in the mob.
It certainly stands to reason that he is since why else (based on the earlier explanation of Korean class structures and traditions) would he allow Jin to marry up? Sun is shocked because at that time she had little idea how her father made money. It makes sense that an organized crime type would see Jin as a hard worker who would be an asset to the family and the FAMILY.

That and well the blood all over him and the tough guy persona Jin now has.

superdeluxe 10-28-04 01:34 PM


Originally posted by Morf
Nope. New shows don't typically rerun their episodes until the offseason, if at all, when they aren't syndicated.
ABC reruns Desparate housewives and lost on saturday nights.

Morf 10-28-04 01:34 PM


Originally posted by Snowmaker
Not true. They've rerun a lot of the Lost episodes on Saturday nights. They did two full hours just last Saturday.
Actually, what I stated was completely true. Lost is just an exception. ;)

superdeluxe 10-28-04 01:35 PM


Originally posted by datagirl7
I'm wondering how she learned English without anyone noticing.
Husband was working 80 hours a week. Pretty easy to sneak around and learn english.

superdeluxe 10-28-04 01:36 PM


Originally posted by Red Dog
Where was the hot blonde chick this episode?
Not in the episode? Not all characters show up in all episodes.

ams 10-28-04 01:48 PM

My question is this: How many people have read in advance what these episodes are about, then posted on this board as "speculations?" I have seen quite a few good "guesses" regarding the plot twists on this show. I like reading the bull$#!t conversations on this forum regarding this show, but do not like knowing what happens on this show before it does. (e.g. wife speaking english, camps splitting up into two groups, Sun thinking of leaving husband......etc.)

shoppingbear 10-28-04 01:55 PM


Originally posted by CPA-ESQ.
Well - we learned that Jack is a Spinal Cord Surgeon. This could have something to do with a condition his father had... in which Jack refused to opperate on his father...
Well, we know that Kate half-jokingly called him a spinal-cord surgeon, but I think that was in reference to him telling her the story of being afraid during that spinal surgery. It doesn't mean that was his specialty or anything.



Originally posted by JasonF
The passage of time was indicated by the growth of the puppy into a full grown dog, and the cruelty of Jin was showcased by his angry command to Sun that she get the dog away from him.

Jin and Sun were going from Korea to L.A. We don't know why, and it's probably not important. Sun was going to take the opportunity to run away. She hooked up with a group that would help her escape, took some classes to learn English ...

Have to comment on this, tiny point, but if I were on the phone and my dog was bugging me for attention, AND was on the sofa, I'd ask for someone to move it. Doesn't mean he's cruel... and I noticed the passage of time on Sun, she managed to look older as time passed.

I'm not totally convinced that she was horribly afraid of him, as much as she couldn't live with someone who was involved with the things her father was involved in. Plus, it was that whole "you're not the man I married" thing.

I'm more confused than ever about where the flight was going to AND from... it seemed like the gate lady had an Australian accent, plus logical that Jack would take the body on a direct flight from where his father died (Sydney), so I'm going with the previous statements that they were leaving Sydney... but in that case, that's hardly on the way from Korea to America... is it? With all the business done, there must be MUCH more direct flights from Korea to America, but if they were stopping in Sydney, how is it they arranged for Sun to "escape"? How would that be arranged that far away?

Oy vey, I'm so CONFUSED... ;)


Originally posted by DaveNinja
I bet the call for the flight to singapore was for the polar bears and t-rex, thats why their plane crashed on the other side of the island and why their pissed.
:rotfl:

DeadLamb 10-28-04 01:59 PM


Originally posted by DaveNinja
next week episode isnt going to be on here because of a basketball game. sucko!
nah Channel 10 is just going to bounce it to the weekend in the Sacramento Kings market and being it's a big show it looks like they will show it twice to try to cut down on pissing a whole lot of people off..

Lost - Sat., 11/6, 9:00-10:00pm AND Sun., 11/7, 4:00-5:00pm

they showed a web page for info on "Rescheduled Due to
Kings Basketball on News10" but it was only on the normal broadcast, not the HDtv feed..
http://www.kxtv10.com/program/kings-reskeds.htm

or course the rest of ya not in the sacramento area don't care at all about this :)

as for the ep.. Pretty good and while not as big a moment flash back wise as some of the other characters, I was sort of surprised by the back story of Jin and Sun. Oh and as far as the cave goes, part of me is just thinking it's a cheap way to cut down on filming costs.. Ya know, make a stage like location to film in Vs on the beach where weather, light etc can be an issue.. Oh but a cave as is just always, well, a cave.. ya know what I mean..

JasonF 10-28-04 02:02 PM


Originally posted by shoppingbear
I'm more confused than ever about where the flight was going to AND from... it seemed like the gate lady had an Australian accent, plus logical that Jack would take the body on a direct flight from where his father died (Sydney), so I'm going with the previous statements that they were leaving Sydney... but in that case, that's hardly on the way from Korea to America... is it? With all the business done, there must be MUCH more direct flights from Korea to America, but if they were stopping in Sydney, how is it they arranged for Sun to "escape"? How would that be arranged that far away?
The flight was definitely a Sydney-to-L.A. flight. The flight across the Pacific is a long one and there are relatively few airports thta can accomodate the planes that make that crossing, so it makes sense that you'd fly from Korea to Sydney, then connect for the crossover. Or maybe Jin had business in Sydney and L.A., so they went to Sydney first, then L.A.

As for how they arranged for Sun to escape, whatever organization that was obviously has connections in Australia (it makes sense that they'd want to get the people they help out of Korea, so why not Australia?).

WillieTheShakes 10-28-04 02:16 PM


Originally posted by rfduncan
Six seasons of Tommy Westphall's imagination.
Damnit rfduncan, spoilers!!!

datagirl7 10-28-04 02:19 PM


Originally posted by superdeluxe
Husband was working 80 hours a week. Pretty easy to sneak around and learn english.
But not if she was being watched by security from her father as was suggested. If she was being watched, I suppose she could learn online or something but I don't think her pronunciation and flow would be that good if she hardly ever spoke to English speakers.

Snowmaker 10-28-04 02:28 PM


Originally posted by superdeluxe
Husband was working 80 hours a week. Pretty easy to sneak around and learn english.
She probably had Engrish for Dummies. :D

OldDude 10-28-04 02:57 PM


Originally posted by JasonF
The flight was definitely a Sydney-to-L.A. flight. The flight across the Pacific is a long one and there are relatively few airports thta can accomodate the planes that make that crossing, so it makes sense that you'd fly from Korea to Sydney, then connect for the crossover. Or maybe Jin had business in Sydney and L.A., so they went to Sydney first, then L.A.


From Seoul, you certainly wouldn't connect to LA in Sydney. Check globe. (He might have had business there.)

In the real world, there are definitely flights from Seoul to Chicago, Detroit, New York. From Sydney, reaching LA is about the limit. From East Coast, to get to Australia, you either go to LA, then direct, or fly to a connection airport like Narita (Tokyo) or to Seoul and then fly to Australia.

rabbit77 10-28-04 02:57 PM


Originally posted by Snowmaker
She probably had Engrish for Dummies. :D
I find it odd how great her English is. Learning English in Korea would make you sound very different than a Korean who learned English in America.

Jray 10-28-04 02:59 PM


Originally posted by Snowmaker
She probably had Engrish for Dummies. :D
:lol: Ow. Funny... yet very wrong.

resinrats 10-28-04 03:44 PM

I've flown to Korea from New York. Going to Korea, planes make a stop over (they hug the land - up over Alaska and down over Russia). However, coming to America, they don't need to stop. My flight went from Seoul all the way to New York City with no stops. The plane went right across the ocean. Since LA is 3000 miles closer than NYC, there is definatly planes that can make that trip. Austraila is a big detour out of the way if you only wanted to go from Korea to America.

They should have had a couple extra lines in last nights episode to clarify why they were going to Sydney and then to LA.

toq 10-28-04 05:00 PM


Originally posted by ruk
i missed this episode, does anyone know if they will air it again, thanks
You'll probably have to double-check your local listings but in my neck of the woods, ABC will be rebroadcasting both the 10/27 (yesterday) and 11/3 episodes next Saturday at 8pm and 9pm, respectively.

HistoryProf 10-28-04 05:44 PM

Man....five pages on a show called Lost, where they now live in a cave, and not one sleestack joke? you guys are losing it ;)

Roto 10-28-04 06:03 PM


Originally posted by Chew
Much better episode than last week. Even though I thought the lady spoke English, it still came as a cool surprise when it happened.

I keep thinking I should just stay away from these threads. It loses some of the impact when something like this happens and you've already read a dozen posts speculating about it. It's really going to suck when we find out the island grants wishes :(


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