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mickey65 03-22-09 02:48 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 9341545)
and worst of all, "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!" which cemented these two in my mind as frauds.

Did you catch the GHI episode where they were in the Philippines at that old Army hospital and caught that EVP where they were asking the ghost if they wanted a cigarette and it said pretty loud, "I'll take one". Fraud? Or real?

Do ya'll think some or most of the EVPs on either of those are fake?

MLBFan24 03-22-09 05:48 PM

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The St Augustine lighthouse episode is my favorite episode. Great evidence.

Giles 03-23-09 08:58 AM

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in defense of the tactics that GH uses, versus Most Haunted or Ghost Adventures - Most Haunted is very antiquated: seances, mediums... come on that isn't scientific in the slightest. Most Haunted also does things where an investigator goes on a solo video walk through (no camera person), they get spooked because they aren't doing it with another viable witness, they could be manifesting what they think they hear or see by fear alone. Secondly, both shows they freak out so much and so easily, it's funny, but after awhile they just come across as being pussies, jeesh, just stop and cover your eyes and ears, it's not like the entity/voice has a knife or something.

Setzer 03-23-09 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by abrg923 (Post 9341545)
Used to be a big fan of the show, but I'll never watch it again after the Halloween 08 special. And I'm not even referring to "Collargate" which was the least of my concerns...more like the whole being cued to flirt with/ask questions to the Miz by a producer, being cued to "walk in a certain area" and them catching it live, and worst of all, "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!" which cemented these two in my mind as frauds. Hell, I'd sell off the DVDs if I thought my wife wouldn't kill me for it.

I don't believe Jay and Grant to be "frauds". I've been watching the show since '04 and about 70% of the time they don't find any solid evidence. If these 2 guys were actors put in place by Sci-Fi then we'd see all sorts of shit going on in every episode. Every piece of evidence they've found so far appears to be legit.

Now, as far as the '08 Halloween episode goes, I don't blame them for the EVP or jacket incident. I'm pretty sure that was all Sci-Fi channels doing. They're letting these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time so they made sure something was going to happen. But seriously, if these guys were frauds then we would be seeing apparitions on a weekly basis.

Setzer 03-23-09 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MLBFan24 (Post 9342499)
The St Augustine lighthouse episode is my favorite episode. Great evidence.

Definitely one of my favorite episodes. I also enjoyed the Armory and Manson Murder investigation episodes.

Giles 03-23-09 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 9343470)
I don't believe Jay and Grant to be "frauds". I've been watching the show since '04 and about 70% of the time they don't find any solid evidence. If these 2 guys were actors put in place by Sci-Fi then we'd see all sorts of shit going on in every episode. Every piece of evidence they've found so far appears to be legit.

Now, as far as the '08 Halloween episode goes, I don't blame them for the EVP or jacket incident. I'm pretty sure that was all Sci-Fi channels doing. They're letting these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time so they made sure something was going to happen. But seriously, if these guys were frauds then we would be seeing apparitions on a weekly basis.

that's for sure, cause the last couple of episodes have been lacklustre at best.

Ravenous 03-24-09 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 9332360)
Isn't Steve an ex-police officer though. Makes me wonder when he went soft..

He probably attempted to be a cop but failed the test and became a rent a cop. Ive known cops and he acts and looks more like a meter maid than a cop.

I have no doubt the show bullshits its evidence most times. Naturally they cant do it all the time than you know its bullshit. Once in a while, than the sheep think its 'real'

But I am still watching and damn have the past 2 seasons sucked.

devilshalo 03-24-09 05:44 PM

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I'm still trying to decide how much to put into this show.. or into Paranormal State (which gives off too much of a Blair Witch 2 vibe).

Giles 03-26-09 08:24 AM

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finally! ... the third episode [Edith Wharton Estate] was at least creepy... but I'm getting really miffed with the decision to add music, when there should be silence, to actually hear what the investigators are hearing, you could barely hear "the running" down the hallway/stairs incident - the music may add tension, but in terms of letting the audience also share in the experience is utterly ruined.

mickey65 03-26-09 10:28 AM

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I agree, and sometimes they throw in some sort of sound effects here and there and you're not sure if it's a ghost noise or just a sound effect for the show.

They also need to have better microphones on the cameramen to capture more of the stuff THEY hear that we don't.

emachine12 03-26-09 11:46 AM

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I am starting to get the feeling that these guys want to move on. I mean, they never explained how the person on the other end of the phone was able to hear the noises. They simply chalked it up to EMF leakage and that is what caused the girl to hear screams. But how did the guy on the other end hear them too?

Its frustrating now since every investigation since the beginning of the new season feels like they just can not wait to get out of there. Then they are adding new tools that seem ridiculous, especially if they are phantom noises. Last week pissed me off too since they dismissed the door opening and closing as wind despite the fact that its physically impossible for wind to do that.

Giles 03-26-09 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 9350466)
I agree, and sometimes they throw in some sort of sound effects here and there and you're not sure if it's a ghost noise or just a sound effect for the show.

They also need to have better microphones on the cameramen to capture more of the stuff THEY hear that we don't.

and while the cameraman is supposed to omnipresent, the investigator's never engage them if one of them hears something and the other investigator doesn't, you'd think they'd break that 'third wall' and look at the camera person and ask them. I know of only one episode where one of the camera person becomes a focal point of one of the lighthouse investigations and is freaked out so badly he's relunctant in going back in. It's only when one of the 'behind the scenes' episodes gets aired where the camera guys get to finally comment on some of the more bizarre hauntings they've taped.

emachine12 03-26-09 12:49 PM

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I remember GHI's Rob interacted with the camera man when they heard something spook them. The camera operator can clearly be head saying "You heard the sound then jumped." Which prompted Rob to tell the operator that he did not jump.

They even showed the footage of a door closing on the camera operator for the show once. Steve has also compared their footage to the ones captured by Sci Fi's crew just to make sure its legit.

Giles 03-26-09 12:58 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by emachine12 (Post 9350821)
I remember GHI's Rob interacted with the camera man when they heard something spook them. The camera operator can clearly be head saying "You heard the sound then jumped." Which prompted Rob to tell the operator that he did not jump.

They even showed the footage of a door closing on the camera operator for the show once. Steve has also compared their footage to the ones captured by Sci Fi's crew just to make sure its legit.

but you're referring to Ghost Hunters International. It's very rare though where the investigator's and the crew do onscreen verbal exchanges on Ghost Hunters (US). I vaguely remember the 'door closing' incident.

LickTheABCs 03-26-09 03:14 PM

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Is it me, or is Kris William's forehead actually growing week to week?

mickey65 03-26-09 08:56 PM

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What about that one episode where the camera man was taken down in that old fort?

They made a big deal about that one.

I agree tho...the show is dying a slow death.

I had a storm power outage last night here for 3 hours. Did I miss anything with last night's episode of GH?

MLBFan24 03-26-09 10:19 PM

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I think this show has the "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" syndrome. With Ghost Hunters and GHI, there aren't really any breaks (maybe 2 weeks tops) between each season. I skipped most of GHI's latest season and only saw the GH season premiere due to LOST's return. I could watch it online, but I'm not motivated to.

Ravenous 03-27-09 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LickTheABCs (Post 9351194)
Is it me, or is Kris William's forehead actually growing week to week?

Its just you.... that why I mentioned it on the first page :rolleyes:

LickTheABCs 03-27-09 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenous (Post 9353680)
Its just you.... that why I mentioned it on the first page :rolleyes:

How can it be that in all 2 pages of this thread that it's YOUR post that I decided to skip over? Hmm, that's very troubling.

Ravenous 03-28-09 05:56 PM

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:lol:

So you purposely skipped my post? That is troubling!

Rockmjd23 03-28-09 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 9351871)
What about that one episode where the camera man was taken down in that old fort?

They made a big deal about that one.

If that's the one I'm thinking of, it is laughable because it was clear the guy just tripped and fell down.

MLBFan24 03-28-09 09:12 PM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Rockmjd23 (Post 9355488)
If that's the one I'm thinking of, it is laughable because it was clear the guy just tripped and fell down.

Didn't seem that way to me, or at least what the video presented. That box thing that was hanging around his neck flew up and made him fall backwards.

I also like the Moon River Brewing episode: a shadow figure runs behind a pool table.

And it always bothers me that the investigators never use thermal in every investigation. Maybe then do, but we never see it? I think investigators should always use EVP, thermal, and a proton pack....

GoldenJCJ 03-28-09 09:31 PM

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^The thought of jumpy Steve and Tango wearing unlicensed nuclear accelerators on their backs makes me nervous.

argh923 03-29-09 01:30 AM

Re: 'Ghost Hunters' Fifth Season
 

Originally Posted by Setzer (Post 9343470)
I don't believe Jay and Grant to be "frauds". I've been watching the show since '04 and about 70% of the time they don't find any solid evidence. If these 2 guys were actors put in place by Sci-Fi then we'd see all sorts of shit going on in every episode. Every piece of evidence they've found so far appears to be legit.

Now, as far as the '08 Halloween episode goes, I don't blame them for the EVP or jacket incident. I'm pretty sure that was all Sci-Fi channels doing. They're letting these guys occupy 8 hours of their air time so they made sure something was going to happen. But seriously, if these guys were frauds then we would be seeing apparitions on a weekly basis.

Do your research...there's plenty of websites out there that debunk damn near everything they've ever found.

Besides, they have staged shit on the Halloween episode...to me, that puts anything they've done or ever will do in question.

I used to love the show to death - and I still think the St. Augustine's Lighthouse show was legit - but I have a really hard time getting into it or believing anything since the Halloween ep. Actually...I haven't even watched one since then.

Giles 04-23-09 10:26 AM

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what happened on last night's episode "Crossing Over"? My DVR didn't record it and there are no repeats of it later in the week/weekend.


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