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mullivan 06-01-04 10:01 PM

The Shield - 6/1
 
Oh man, what a great episode!

Did anyone catch Lem's last line of the episode - I couldn't hear it?

Charlie Goose 06-01-04 11:22 PM

He said something like, "We might fool Dutch and the feds, but we won't fool the Armenians."
Lem is the question mark here. He's feeling incredible guilt at what happened to O'Brien, he's terrified of getting the same treatment from the Armenians, or going to jail. He looked like he might cry on the scene.

MrX 06-01-04 11:32 PM

Looks like we're in for a great last couple of episodes with the shit starting to hit the fan.

Tavon's awake and he remembers just about everything, Dutch and the Armenians are on to the the strike team, and Vic's family is a mess.

Good to see the decoy squad again tonight.

Atleast they won't have to worry about walking in on Diego anymore:)

Buck Turgidson 06-01-04 11:33 PM

Dutch: "Jesus...are you sure it wasn't just an irate maid?" rotfl

It's all coming to a head.

This show is in a dead heat with The Wire for Best on American TV honors.

joltaddict 06-02-04 12:52 AM

Everytime one of Vics family scenes comes on it makes me glad I got a vasectomy. I mean could it get worse?

Deftones 06-02-04 01:01 AM


Originally posted by joltaddict
Everytime one of Vics family scenes comes on it makes me glad I got a vasectomy. I mean could it get worse?
We are all glad you got a vasectomy too. :lol:

Patman 06-02-04 08:22 AM

Enjoyed Dog Girl's appearance.

For some reason, this episode didn't really do much for me. Maybe I'm getting a little tired of the "tight rope" that Vic is constantly walking to keep things afloat and not exploding in his face. I don't know how people function with so many angles to deal with in their life.

Red Dog 06-02-04 08:24 AM

Yep - the conspiracy btwn the strike team is beginning to fall apart. Happens so often when a group of people steals money. Of course, there is so much other crap contributing to the mess.

Meatpants 06-02-04 08:58 AM

Every episode, I'm left wondering when / if Vic ever goes to sleep.

Does anyone remember exactly how much money they got from the money train?

das Monkey 06-02-04 08:59 AM


• Buck Turgidson •

This show is in a dead heat with The Wire for Best on American TV honors.

Agreed. :up:

I really liked how they wondered if they'd see their arrest coming when they finally got caught. There are just so many loose ends out there. Hopefully the writers realize that they have to give us a pay off on all this.

das

Patman 06-02-04 09:31 AM

It's exhausting to watch this show at times, due to the minefield aspect of the predicament the Strike Team finds themselves in.

I guess the moral of the story is: Crime doesn't pay!!! :D

Red Dog 06-02-04 09:34 AM


Originally posted by Meatpants
Every episode, I'm left wondering when / if Vic ever goes to sleep.


Well maybe if he wasn't banging the K-9 trainer in his little bit of free time, he could catch some Z's. ;) Let's be real - except for his autistic kids, it is self-induced stress.

DJ_Spyder 06-02-04 10:09 AM

I'm glad to see that Tavon was shown even better to see that he remembers what happened betwen him and Shane. I totally agree Lem is becoming a big question mark it only a matter of time before he loses his nerve and spills the beans regarding the Strike Teams activities since the Aremenian mob is coming closer to the truth does anyone care to lay odds that Lem will get killed like Terry did in the first season? As for the relationship between Vic and the Dog Trainer it appears to be going nowhere since DT's boyfriend seems to be getting in the way coming up with these outrageous lies to keep her with him. And one more headache for Vic his family so far he is trying his best to keep his family together but one thing pops up right after the other and it came as no suprise to me that his wife wanted his son instutionalized since she has a very hard time coping with problems at home.

Meatpants 06-02-04 10:10 AM


Originally posted by Red Dog
Well maybe if he wasn't banging the K-9 trainer in his little bit of free time, he could catch some Z's. ;) Let's be real - except for his autistic kids, it is self-induced stress.
I almost laughed out loud when Vic came home with the groceries and started talking about roasting potatoes for dinner. How does he have time to make home-cooked meals? :lol:

DVD Josh 06-02-04 10:43 AM

Lem is a woman. I really hope he goes the way of Terry. I've never liked his character except for the one arc where he got with the Latin woman and picked fights with entire gangs. I see an end in his near future.

Goldblum 06-02-04 11:23 AM

Yeah, Lem hasn't been doing to much or involved in anything besides the money train. (Of course, neither is Ronnie but it's always been that way-kind of an inside joke, lol.) I think it's possible (but not probable) that Lem gets it before the season is out. If anyone on the strike team is going, it's Lem. Shane is too big right now, and Ronnie's death wouldn't mean too much.

Patman 06-02-04 11:33 AM

Danny's comment to Vic about Dog-Girl liking A-Holes was a classic zinger!

Cusm 06-02-04 12:00 PM

I saw the preveiws of next week, and OMFG I can not wait.

PacMan2006 06-02-04 12:21 PM

How can you guys dislike Lem? At least his character has some depth. Ronnie has been around 2 years--maybe 3, and I feel his character is so paper thin that he's easily replaceable.

Patman 06-02-04 12:23 PM

Ronnie's pretty much the hacker, and obligatory disfigurement character on the Strike Team...so far.

DAC 06-02-04 12:43 PM

I can never remember Ronnie's name. That's how much he is just there. If they got rid of him it would be no big loss. If they got rid of Lem or Shane now that would be a season finale.

spainlinx0 06-02-04 01:13 PM

I like Lem. No one seems to like people with a conscious on TV anymore. Shane is a guy that is out to protect himself, and I think Lem and he are going to really have it out when no one is there to stop them.

Red Dog 06-02-04 01:15 PM


Originally posted by spainlinx0
I like Lem. No one seems to like people with a conscious on TV anymore. Shane is a guy that is out to protect himself, and I think Lem and he are going to really have it out when no one is there to stop them.

I like him too. If the team didn't have Lem, they would garner no sympathy from the audience whatsoever.

Jonny2k1 06-02-04 01:28 PM

Lem is actually my second favorite character, next to Vic of course, on the show. I think he needs some bigger storylines like the one previously mentioned. I don't think the Strike Team would get rid of him since he was with them for so long, whereas Terry was fairly new.

Patman 06-02-04 01:48 PM

Waggonbach was one of my faves until he strangled the cat.

mikewendt 06-02-04 02:59 PM

Best show on television.... End of story.

cleaver 06-02-04 03:07 PM

Working under the assumption that someone on the Strike Team won't make it through the next 2 show, which is no lock, I think it's very possible they knock off Shane. He's an intregal character but if it were real life than it would be a miracle he hasn't been killed, caught, or rolled over by the rest of the team yet.

[Stephen A. Smith voice] However, [/Stephen A. Smith voice]
Spoiler:
based on next weeks preview Lem would have to be the favorite.

CaptainMarvel 06-02-04 03:30 PM


Originally posted by cleaver
[B]Working under the assumption that someone on the Strike Team won't make it through the next 2 show, which is no lock, I think it's very possible they knock off Shane. /B]
Knocking off Shane still leaves them with the nasty problem of his wife AND her mom. I don't think they could come up with a convenient way to bump off all three characters.

movieking 06-02-04 05:39 PM

Can someone post (and spoilerize) the preview for next week?

Chew 06-03-04 07:29 AM

Another excellent episode. It's certainly building for the strike team and I hope a big blow-up is in the making. I don't want the money train story ending with them getting away with it. Somebody has to pay. ;)

Groucho 06-03-04 08:20 AM

A very good episode. I was glad to see the return of the hilarious fence courting Danny from last week. That actor has "star quality." I hope he has a promising career ahead of him.

FYI, regarding Ronnie: he is the only active member of the strike team who is not a series "regular." Tevon too, of course.

rfduncan 06-03-04 10:21 AM


Originally posted by movieking
Can someone post (and spoilerize) the preview for next week?
There realily wasn't anything concrete in it. It was your typical misleading, it-could-mean-just-about-anything clips and quotes although:
Spoiler:
it did seem like Shane and Vic were in a car witnessing Lem somehow "spilling the beans" on something.


However, great episode! I don't think Lem is going to go away. More interesting to watch him squirm and be the conscience of the Strike Team. He has always been my favorite character even though he is only second to Ronnie in terms of lack of real screen time (only because Ronnie is usually silent and was missing alot after his face got burned off). Now that the Armenian mess is being pushed back to the Strike Team, I think this storyline will come to some sort of resolution (a 90% one since nothing ever resolves neatly or goes cleanly "off the table" - see the recent "Previously on The Shield" when they showed the clips about Terry).

Either way I think I might have to hold off on next week's episode until I have Tivo'ed both since I'm sensing from the previews the finale is actually a two-parter. :thumbsup:

cleaver 06-03-04 12:53 PM


Originally posted by movieking
Can someone post (and spoilerize) the preview for next week?
Spoiler:
They showed Lem driving off in a van with Vic saying something along the lines of "Lem, don't!" I thought the implication was that the money was in the van and he was either turning himself in or returning it to the mob. The big thing besides that is they showed the Strike Team walking through some deserted area toward the foot-fetish guy with the long hair. I imagine next episode will leave them no other choice but to actually go after the Armenians, and then the showdown will be in the finale.

Cusm 06-03-04 12:58 PM

Spoiler:
I got the impression that Lem was going over to Shane's house based on Shanes' reaction.

Meatpants 06-03-04 02:39 PM

I think they're in a dangerous area story-wise - if they kill someone off, it's going to seem like they're ripping off The Sopranos; if the ST again escapes unscathed, it's going to strain plausibility even further.

cleaver 06-03-04 03:15 PM


Originally posted by Meatpants
I think they're in a dangerous area story-wise - if they kill someone off, it's going to seem like they're ripping off The Sopranos; if the ST again escapes unscathed, it's going to strain plausibility even further.
I disagree. When they kill someone off on the Sopranos the whole story-arc revolves around them killing off that character. For example, a few weeks ago they showed Chris firing a gun at the camera on the coming soon scenes, and many thought he was shooting at Adrianna. When they killed off *****, Richie, Jackie, Jr., and Ralphie, every week it was "are they gonna kill them this week, or wait for the season finale?" That's why I tought they jumped the shark after they killed *****, because now they kill off a semi-major cast member every season in the last 2 episodes.

It's not like no one dies on the Shield. Already this season 2 regulars have been raped, and 1 semi-regular killed himself. 8 year olds and 80 year olds dropped like flies. I see no reason to think plausibilty will be lost if no one on the Strike Team dies and besides the use of language and violence I don't see how it looks like they're ripping off the Sopranos.

Groucho 06-03-04 03:18 PM

Two regulars have been raped? I only count one:

Spoiler:
Acevada


Are you thinking of:

Spoiler:
Trish


As the other one? That's not a regular character.

Boot 06-03-04 04:01 PM

Please contain the Sopranos spoilers. Some of us have to wait for the dvds.

Buck Turgidson 06-03-04 04:40 PM


Originally posted by Chew
Somebody has to pay. ;)
Ideally, yes, but if it happens, I'd really prefer to se someone pay for murdering Reed Diamond's character in the debut episode, rather than stealing ill-gotten money from ruthless scumbags.

Venusian 06-03-04 09:10 PM

why would the plant ALL marked bills on O'Neil? and why doesn't Dutch think that is suspicious?


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