Maybe because they weren't shown certain scenes that we were priviledged to see so they didn't know that Rob and Amber made many alliances?

Truly enjoyed that immunity challenge last night. I've never had a problem with Shii-Ann... in fact, I would love to see her or Rupert win.

I haven't been a fan of Rob through this season, but at this point I'd like to see him win. Survivor has become too predictable in that the weaklings tend to kill off the strong players. To me, it's boring to see the worst people stick around. Although surprised, I was glad to see Rob make it through last night.

Rob has been the best player and deserves to be where he is. He's removed the people that he knows will be a threat. Rob C. , Lex, Kathy. He is basically Colby but doesn't show his cockiness outside the private confessionals.

Shii Ann is worthless. She's unattractive, stupid, and physically a wimp. The challenge was less about endurance and more about being able to stand still. Rob was going strong and had an itch. Rupert twitched a little.

She's petty and pathetic. Rolling her eyes at everything that moves. Complaining that her side lost. What, if she, Lex, and co. had ousted Rob would they have not done the same thing? Then she has the audacity to call other people stupid? Uh uh dummy, that'd be you. Token is her name because that is clearly the only reason she's in the game to begin with.

Anyway, on to Rob...

The reason they aren't going against him is because they are not aware of the multiple alliances. If you had a voting block of 4 that you knew about and were unsure of the other 3, why would you break your alliance? Just so you can lose 3-2-2- and then be royally screwed by having a larger alliance than yours AND pushing away Amber at the same time? In their heads they know they have numbers. It's all about lasting one more week and that's what Rupert/Jenna did. Tom and Alicia were moot at that point because they did not have numbers.

It'll be very easy to dump Rob/Amber later on if they play smartly and can win some games. Besides, maybe it's not such a bad thing to go against Rob in the end.

As for Rob/Amber being a lock for the final two. Maybe they make it, but they're far from a sure thing. The final immunity is always endurance. That's a major wildcard as anyone can suck it up and stand still for hours on end.

The jury should vote for Rob unanimously if he makes it. They won't because they're whiny babies, but they should because he was clearly the strongest and smartest player in the game. Of course, the whole reason they're on the show in the first place is that they're arrogant, self involved, and edgy people. Can't handle anyone going against them.

Yeah, she's the only petty-acting person on the show. HAHAHA.

I highly doubt Shii-Ann is a stupid person. Just annoying sometimes.

The challenge WAS about endurance. Holding your arm up for over 2 hours isn't easy.

If Tom, Alicia, Rupert and Shi-Ann made an alliance they could have gotten rid of Rob, Amber & Jenna, 4 against 3.

If it's Rob, Amber and whomever and Rob wins the final immunity challenge then he picks the other final 2 person. So all he has to do is win and he can pick Amber. Amber can come in second or third it doesn't matter.

Shii Ann is the only person left on the show with half a brain. I hope she wins immunity again next week. Everybody else refuses to break the Rob/Amber alliance which proves that she was RIGHT when she called them all S-T-U-P-I-D. It's survival of the dumbos.

I disagree. When ShiiAnn made that comment she was basically saying they were stupid for not making an alliance with her and now because of that 3 people were on the choping block (WHICH WASN'T TRUE).

She was acting like now that she has immunity she was powerfull, again NOT TRUE.

If there was already a solid 4, why would they "make deals" with Shiiann and let her in on their strategy?

Jenna summed it up best "what we are stupid because we don't tell YOU all of our strategy?".

what I always find interesting with a foursome, is when it comes down to FIVE people left.
So many options and decisions.
Because obviously in ANY foursome, it's probably two PAIRS of alliances. So in theory, at FIVE, you would want to recruit the 5th person to make a threesome, but do it while still saving face.
Especially incase the 5th wins immunity.

But then ofcourse it would be FOUR, the one pair, the oddman out, and the one that just lost their partner.
Ofcourse the 5th wheel would be forced to "flip again" almost.
(I think that's why most stick to the original game plan, and it also is an easy way to claim "honesty" at the end game).

I would like to see one of Rob/Amber/Rupert win.
I think they've played the best all around game.
Especially Rob controlling the other side with the Amber vote earlier in the game.

Well now Tom knows that his 4-way alliance with Alicia/Rob/Amber was meaningless. I would think he'd wake up and start forming a new alliance against Rob & Amber.

Shi Ann deserves to win, Rob is going to screw everyone up the a**. The sooner they get him out the better. Big Tom and Rupet should be teaming up with Shi Ann if they want to stay in the game.

Would be great to see Amber go before Rob, he's getting too cocky.

I will agree that Shii Ann deserves to win ONLY if she makes it to the final 3. Except for that one immunity she really hasn't done anything, strategically or otherwise.

I hope Rob and Amber get split up soon. If Amber goes first, Rob will self destruct. I would love to see that.

I think Rupert is the dumbest player left. That shameless display at the reward was so over the top idiotic. He left absolutely zero question where his loyalties lie. That is exactly what the challenge was set up to accomplish, and Rupert fell right into the trap.

Wow, I'm really surprised to see people wanting Shii-Ann to win. Especially surprised that anyone thinks Shii-Ann deserves to win.

To me, she and Jenna have been the weakest players of the lot. Shii-Ann has been universally useless -- in physical challenges, in mental challenges (where, by the way she tries so hard to sound smart, you would think she wouldn't suck so hard) and in strategy. Until the last two episodes, she's always voted for whoever the majority tells her to vote for. Colby was right on when he said he didn't respect her "strategy" of making no decisions for herself. She's the ultimate fly under the radar player, and to me that makes her undeserving of the win.

I hate spoilers like crazy so I don't even read these threads, but I tohught I'd post an interesting spoiler Alicia let slide on the Today Show today. I'm a little peeved she did it but whatev.

SPOILER!!!!!

You are probably correct, but just to play devil's advocate,

Before this week, i actually liked Alicia, but MAN -- she dropped BIG time in my book.. Not quite Omarosa-like levels, but close! Chip, Shoulder -- meet Alicia! What a b*tch!

(I didn't read those spoilers.. i'm just referring to her attitude on last night's episode)

I agree with you in that Shii-Ann was angry not because the other guys are stupid for not making deals with her. She's still the non-Chapera member and would get the boot if she ever loose an immunity. I think that's what got her really upset. That she must keep on winning immunity in order to stay. She can no longer talk her way into an alliance anymore. The 6 remaining Chapera members are very tight. Even though we (the viewers) can see that Tom and Alicia are the outside pair of the remaining six. To them, they see themselves with Rob and Amber as the final 4. Since they are the true original Chapera. Rupert and Jenna joined Chapera later.

I think Rob or Rupert will win. Amber lied to Mogo Mogo people and was convincing at getting Jerri voted out instead of her. But I think if she goes up against Rob or Rupert, she will loose out because she lied to Mogo Mogo. Rob/Amber also lied to Alicia (and Tom) about their being in final 4. So Rupert versus Rob or Amber will win everyone's vote.

They are dumb. And lazy. I was commenting on this somewhere else. Only when their neck is on the chopping block do they start running around saying Rob has too much power and has to go. As long as it's not them they're more than happy to follow along blindly.

Fine with me. I want Rob to win.

And though they may not know about Rob's other alliances they all are very open (to the camera) about the fact that they do not trust him. So they have to have some clue.

Yawn, defend Shii Ann all you want, but she is worthless. Just because she thinks she's smarter than other people doesn't mean she is... She sits there, calls everyone stupid, thinks her vote is oh so important, and then it turns out to be absolutely worthless. Good for her. Even when she wins she loses. Impressive.

No, it's not easy, but there were 2-5 people who would have been in it that long if 1) they felt the need and 2) they didnt' twitch. Rupert and Rob certainly didn't get out because they couldn't handle it. They merely twitched. Obviously a good win for her, but it's not like she destroyed everyone. It was a simple case of the game giving someone a chance to tough it out. She did. Doesn't mean she's not a worthless waste of skin. I mean, shit, I love Asian chicks, but how about a hot one? Even if she were annoying I could at least mute it...

I think, from most of what I've read, it's that IF Shi-Ann makes it to the final two, which would require a Kelly Wigglesworth (should have won Survivor 1) type run of wins, THEN she'd be a very deserving winnner. There is no way she can do that, so only if alliances finally start to break does she really stand any chance and then she'd need to win probably one more time and if she made it to the top 3, she might get picked to go, because she almost certainly wouldn't stand much of a chance with the jury. I can actually see her pissing away any chance by being stupid and rude during the question and answer part even if she did make it to the final 2.

I'm sorry, this game is over. I dont see how most of you dont see it. Remember Thailand?

Can Rob win?

I mean, look who'll be on the jury -- Lex, Kathy, Alicia. Three people right there who feel like he dicked them around. The way he's been stringing everyone along by handing out alliances like Chick Tracts probably isn't going to win many people over to his case.

As to the spoilers,

I think Rob can win if he goes up against Amber. I think even though we were shown that Mogo Mogo people upset at Rob for not helping them after they helped Amber not getting voted out, it was Amber who lied to them. Thus, their voting for Amber on the tribal council. I think they are more upset at Amber than Rob. So Rob has a chance to win if he sits in the final 2 with Amber.

I've been watching every minute of this, and as much as I didn't like Rob going in, I have to admit, he's been playing VERY well. With the exception of a FEW of his comments to camera, he hasn't been that cocky, people just keep assigning him cockiness because he's doing well. He's just been winning, he hasn't been rubbing people's faces in it.

Yeah, but I'm guessing anyone else would've done the same thing. That was actually an unfortunate one to win, because of the setup.

Speaking of this challenge, I'm surprised that no one has commented on Shi-ann's COMPLETE lack of class while everyone was eating... I mean, Tom was eating cold potatoes, and sitting watching Rupert drinking beer, and barely a comment from him, but Shi-ann just couldn't shut up, she was making everyone twitch, completely without tact or class or anything.