Deadwood 4/4
04-04-04, 11:50 PM
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HBO is reairing all three episodes this coming Friday, April 9, at 8:00. That will be good for me, since I missed the first episode.
Based on what I've seen in the last two, HBO has another sterling addition to their long string of quality hour-long dramas.
Carradine rules. "You're not gonna let me sleep, are ya?"
Based on what I've seen in the last two, HBO has another sterling addition to their long string of quality hour-long dramas.
Carradine rules. "You're not gonna let me sleep, are ya?"
04-05-04, 04:01 AM
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I still have mixed feelings about this episode - thought it was a bit slow at times, but I guess you need to do that when you set up new story arcs. And seeing Ricky Jay is always a plus - I'll probably watch the three episodes on Friday as you always miss something the first time through 
04-05-04, 11:04 AM
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I thought this episode was slow too. Maybe it's just because the murder was in the dark so we couldn't see as much gore 
Seems like this episode was more of a build up for things to come. The new saloon across the street should be interesting. I'm guessing it doesn't last for two episodes before it's burned to the ground. Not a very good business plan to move in across the street from Al!
Those anonymous drunks sure put a scare into Hickock.
Seems like this episode was more of a build up for things to come. The new saloon across the street should be interesting. I'm guessing it doesn't last for two episodes before it's burned to the ground. Not a very good business plan to move in across the street from Al! Those anonymous drunks sure put a scare into Hickock.
04-05-04, 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Roto
I thought this episode was slow too.
I thought this episode was slow too.
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04-05-04, 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Brett44
I'm just curious, but what do you people consider a fast-paced episode? There were several key developments during this week's show and I didn't notice any part of the show dragging even in the slightest. As a matter of fact the hour seemed to just fly by.
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I'm just curious, but what do you people consider a fast-paced episode? There were several key developments during this week's show and I didn't notice any part of the show dragging even in the slightest. As a matter of fact the hour seemed to just fly by.
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04-05-04, 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Brett44
As a matter of fact the hour seemed to just fly by.
Brett
As a matter of fact the hour seemed to just fly by.
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That's my complaint. But to be fair, I think it's running time is around 50 minutes!
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04-05-04, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Brett44
I'm just curious, but what do you people consider a fast-paced episode? There were several key developments during this week's show and I didn't notice any part of the show dragging even in the slightest. As a matter of fact the hour seemed to just fly by.
Brett
I'm just curious, but what do you people consider a fast-paced episode? There were several key developments during this week's show and I didn't notice any part of the show dragging even in the slightest. As a matter of fact the hour seemed to just fly by.
Brett
04-05-04, 03:41 PM
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oooooooooooooooooooo shit this show is starting to heat up! i can't friggin wait for next weeks episode, when hikok confronts the owner of the whore house. should be great.
speaking of the guy that runs the whore house, its only 3 episodes in of DEADWOOD and i want the guy to win a friggin emmy. he is PHENOMINAL as Al. i dont think i've seen him in anything else but this. My, what a fine actor. Literally put chills down my spine.
overall, the cast is fantastic cept for one thing. I love the Timothy Olyphant character in this, but sadly i think he is miscast. little too pretty boyish. but hes doing an ok job i guess. rickie jay, who i love, seemed a little out of step in it as well, but who cares, its rickie ****ing jay.
loved seeing powers boothe in last nights episode.
speaking of the guy that runs the whore house, its only 3 episodes in of DEADWOOD and i want the guy to win a friggin emmy. he is PHENOMINAL as Al. i dont think i've seen him in anything else but this. My, what a fine actor. Literally put chills down my spine.
overall, the cast is fantastic cept for one thing. I love the Timothy Olyphant character in this, but sadly i think he is miscast. little too pretty boyish. but hes doing an ok job i guess. rickie jay, who i love, seemed a little out of step in it as well, but who cares, its rickie ****ing jay.
loved seeing powers boothe in last nights episode.
04-05-04, 04:51 PM
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I was wondering about the posters who thought this episode was too slow in development and if they watch Sopranos how it compares. I watch both and found myself bored with this episode of Sopranos but Deadwood has yet to have me become distracted or bored.
04-05-04, 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Irwin Fletcher
I was wondering about the posters who thought this episode was too slow in development and if they watch Sopranos how it compares. I watch both and found myself bored with this episode of Sopranos but Deadwood has yet to have me become distracted or bored.
I was wondering about the posters who thought this episode was too slow in development and if they watch Sopranos how it compares. I watch both and found myself bored with this episode of Sopranos but Deadwood has yet to have me become distracted or bored.
04-05-04, 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by Shannon Nutt
Finally nice to see some "good looking" prostitutes in Deadwood, isn't it?!
Finally nice to see some "good looking" prostitutes in Deadwood, isn't it?!
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04-05-04, 09:16 PM
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Thats not exactly true mrpayroll, The Shield is still as strong as ever maybe even stonger in it's 3rd season. So i think it is a matter of writing and direction not being new or fresh.
04-05-04, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Irwin Fletcher
Thats not exactly true mrpayroll, The Shield is still as strong as ever maybe even stonger in it's 3rd season. So i think it is a matter of writing and direction not being new or fresh.
Thats not exactly true mrpayroll, The Shield is still as strong as ever maybe even stonger in it's 3rd season. So i think it is a matter of writing and direction not being new or fresh.
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04-05-04, 11:47 PM
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I'm hooked!
I would imagine this would be really hard to get in to if you had missed the first couple of episodes though...lots of characters and background stuff
I would imagine this would be really hard to get in to if you had missed the first couple of episodes though...lots of characters and background stuff
04-06-04, 01:04 AM
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Anyone have numbers for how the ratings have fared for episodes 2 and 3? What kind of, if any, drop off has there been from thhe grand slam premier? I'm curious to see if there was any real tangible fall-out due to the profanity....
speaking of which, the HBO forum has a thread on it and it's hilarious....http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jsp?for...t=1&msRange=15
My favorite post:
it's really quite striking how many of the complainers claim to "love westerns." me thinks this is the greatest example ever of how sanitized the "West" has been in TV and movies for as long as those mediums have existed. The last couple of thread have some interesting posts regarding the use of language in history and such too.....
but i'm still having a hard time figuring out why some profanity is so damned objectionable, but feeding dead outlaws to pigs is A-OK!!
speaking of which, the HBO forum has a thread on it and it's hilarious....http://boards.hbo.com/thread.jsp?for...t=1&msRange=15
My favorite post:
My wife and I were really excited when we heard about the new Deadwood western series on HBO. What we saw or should I say heard within the first minuets of the premiere episode was not only historically inaccurate it was down right vulgar!
We couldn't believe the number of times the "F" word was used along with other vulgar slang words all of which was not only inappropriate for women but it made me cringe in my chair as well, often as many times as every other line, the vulgar language kept on coming until we had to change the channel.
Where not sure who your writers and producers are, but it’s obvious their agenda is less than honorable in the way they have chosen to portray our forefathers. I would have thought your writers would have learned something from the classic westerns of our past, which good films didn’t need the sex and language your “Deadwood” portrayed.
I agree with one thing, the old west was a rough and rowdy place, but the men and women who went west were educated, God fearing Christians. I ‘m not trying to say that a discouraging word was never heard in the old west, but I heard more vulgarity in the first 15 minutes of Deadwood than I would ever want to hear in an entire season.
My wife and I are members of the Single Action Shooting Society in which we participate in Cowboy Action Shooting, which happens to be the fastest and largest shooting sport in the world and demands historical accuracy but most of all decency.
We found it to be offensive, disgusting and down right horrible, the language and inappropriate behavior was very disappointing, it’s too bad you thought you needed to use such language to portray an accurate picture of the old west, you couldn’t have been farther from the truth. Your characters and clothing were great even the setting was done well. You had a real winner there until your actors opened their mouths.
You will notice a drop in your ratings because western historians like my wife and I are by the millions and we wont watch another episode as long as your agenda is what it appeared to be in your first episode.
I’m sorry to say Deadwood is just plain dead.
We couldn't believe the number of times the "F" word was used along with other vulgar slang words all of which was not only inappropriate for women but it made me cringe in my chair as well, often as many times as every other line, the vulgar language kept on coming until we had to change the channel.
Where not sure who your writers and producers are, but it’s obvious their agenda is less than honorable in the way they have chosen to portray our forefathers. I would have thought your writers would have learned something from the classic westerns of our past, which good films didn’t need the sex and language your “Deadwood” portrayed.
I agree with one thing, the old west was a rough and rowdy place, but the men and women who went west were educated, God fearing Christians. I ‘m not trying to say that a discouraging word was never heard in the old west, but I heard more vulgarity in the first 15 minutes of Deadwood than I would ever want to hear in an entire season.
My wife and I are members of the Single Action Shooting Society in which we participate in Cowboy Action Shooting, which happens to be the fastest and largest shooting sport in the world and demands historical accuracy but most of all decency.
We found it to be offensive, disgusting and down right horrible, the language and inappropriate behavior was very disappointing, it’s too bad you thought you needed to use such language to portray an accurate picture of the old west, you couldn’t have been farther from the truth. Your characters and clothing were great even the setting was done well. You had a real winner there until your actors opened their mouths.
You will notice a drop in your ratings because western historians like my wife and I are by the millions and we wont watch another episode as long as your agenda is what it appeared to be in your first episode.
I’m sorry to say Deadwood is just plain dead.
but i'm still having a hard time figuring out why some profanity is so damned objectionable, but feeding dead outlaws to pigs is A-OK!!
04-06-04, 02:22 AM
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To paraphrase Harlan Ellison, in a similar situation years ago: don't sweat it...they'll both be dead pretty soon.
The capacity people, especially people born before WWII, have to delude themselves on the nature of the world and it's history, never ceases to amaze me.
The capacity people, especially people born before WWII, have to delude themselves on the nature of the world and it's history, never ceases to amaze me.
04-06-04, 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by bdshort
I wonder what they thought about the whoring and beatings and killing... or did only the swearing bother them?
Brian
I wonder what they thought about the whoring and beatings and killing... or did only the swearing bother them?
Brian
I think that the problem some people are having with the profanity (other than people who are against it in general) is that the profanity on the show is not really well-written into the dialogue. If you consider a Mamet script or a Tarantino screenplay, you see that the profanity is simply part of the character in the same way an article of clothing might be: it sits comfortably.
The profanity in Deadwood seems to constantly call attention to itself, and I think that's a failure in the writing.
