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DJ_Spyder 04-01-04 10:31 PM

Oh man Troy bites the dust since Nick & Amy won the competition at the last minute this smells and to add insult to injury Trump tells Troy that he is not qualified to run one of his companies due to his lack of education WTF? If that is the case why didn't Trump eliminate him earlier in the competition? This sucks and do nothing Kwame is still in can someone please explain to me why "I love to play the race card" Omarosa is returning? I thought she was fired earlier I'm sure Heidi is besides herself after hearing this news since those two did not get along very well.

Red Dog 04-01-04 10:37 PM


Originally posted by DJ_Spyder
Oh man Troy bites the dust since Nick & Amy won the competition at the last minute this smells and to add insult to injury Trump tells Troy that he is not qualified to run one of his companies due to his lack of education WTF? If that is the case why didn't Trump eliminate him earlier in the competition? This sucks and do nothing Kwame is still in can someone please explain to me why the Queen Byatch Omarosa is returning? I thought she was fired earlier I'm sure Heidi is besides herself after hearing this news since those two did not get along very well.

Exactly my point from before. If Troy was so lacking in experience - it would have come up earlier. Obviously, Trump is trying to maximize ratings with this controversial call. I can't think for a second he will hire that do-nothing to run his company.

Patman 04-01-04 10:49 PM

It could be worse, we could have had Sam for all these weeks...

Patman 04-01-04 10:54 PM

Moose! Funny name for a dad.

I do get the feeling that Trump/Burnett were stringing along Troy for his "used car salesman smell" because he definitely made for entertaining TV with his audacity and outgoing personality (and the ability to spew BS with his Joker-like grin). In the final analysis, Troy could have won just about everything, and still have gotten the pink slip from the Donald for his lack of college degree.

Kwame doesn't have the right stuff, and neither does Nick, so that leaves Amy and Bill, and only Bill seems to actually have a larger picture perspective.

griz 04-01-04 11:01 PM

In regards to Omarosa coming back.
Did anyone else see Leno last night with George and Caroline?
Leno asked about Omarosa and commented about how backstage she was really really nice, but on camera, she became a different person and he didn't like her.

DJ_Spyder 04-01-04 11:10 PM


Originally posted by Patman
It could be worse, we could have had Sam for all these weeks...
Point well taken Psycho Sam and that evil stare of his when he got fired still gives me the chills!!

Derrich 04-01-04 11:23 PM

Major Points:
Although Caroline is a hottie and I wouldn't mind her berating me intensly for about 30-45 minutes, she really is an ice queen. When she said 'Good for him for making it this far' was evil. She basically had him eliminated from day one and never took him seriously.

Troy knew he would lose against Bill and that at least he had a fighting chance against Kwame. But I really think the Trump already has him mind made up and both Troy and Kwame will be gone.

Now that Katrina is gone, Amy is really going all out with the short skirts. Not that i'm complaining.

Bill is a punk. He could have easily helped set up Amy for Nick, but instead he intentionally c blocked Nick. Business is business but there's never an excuse that type of behavior.

I can see how Moose was trying to help out his son with Amy. Basically he was trying to get the point across that Nick was a ladies man and even now he had a girl waiting for him, so Amy better make a move quick. Unfortunately, he read the situation wrong and probaly c-blocked his son even more than Bill did. Moose = worst wingman ever. And Amy's hot sister wasn't helping the situation either.

D

the aftermath 04-01-04 11:42 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again, they've obviously set it up so Nick and Amy will face each other in the finale.

Kwame's just so bland and straight. Ok, so he went to Harvard, big whoop. He just seems to be riding on the coattails of the rest of his team mates.

rossi46 04-01-04 11:50 PM

Derrich - your entire post had me ROFLMAO! :D (BTW - what section of the beach are you at? I'm in Newport News, but hang out down there often.)

If Kwame makes it one more round I will be upset. OK, so he had a masters vs Troy's HS diploma. But after that he has nothing on the remaning contestants. I'm really leaning towards a Bill win at the end of all this.

bigsoos 04-01-04 11:57 PM

no doubt about the set up. my fiancee and I were so pissed when that guy came back. OMG Ponderosa is coming back. Reminds me of when the man-beast came back in Paradise Hotel.

jeffkjoe 04-02-04 12:13 AM

Here's what I think's going to happen next week:

Based on the preview from two weeks ago, the only challenge left is: arranging a golf tournament at Trump National.

And Trump has to fire TWO people within the first half hour, according to the preview, right?

So:

Case scenario #1: Trump fires the entire losing team from next week's challenge - Either Kwame/Bill or Nick/Amy. My bet in this case: He fires Kwame/Bill and takes lovers Nick/Amy to the final.


Case scenario #2: Trump chooses to eliminate the weaker of the two players from both sides according to the outcome of next week's challenge and takes the best two players from either side into the Grande Finale. My bet in this case: Kwame from Protege, and Nick from Versacorp are gone, leaving Amy vs. her "best competitor" Bill.



But, if Trump were as smart a TV showman as he is a businessman, he would have to fire both Kwame and Bill and bring star-crossed lovers Nick and Amy into the Grand Finale, because great TV comes from great drama..... i.e., pitting lover.....against.....lover.

Kal-El 04-02-04 01:19 AM

Hey I was right. And I didn't even get to watch it. Bummer.

When's the rerun on CNBC or are they going to rerun it on NBC next wednesday like they did last week's yesterday?

Patman 04-02-04 06:19 AM

NBC has be re-running the previous week's Thursday episode on Wednesdays for the last past couple of months now.

Flashback 04-02-04 07:00 AM


Originally posted by Kal-El
Hey I was right. And I didn't even get to watch it. Bummer.

Yes you were....good call.

At least in the cab ride interview Troy took it pretty cool unlike most of the others. I still believe that they really liked Troy but some of his tactics were iffy. I still liked him though.

Also, I thought they had the guy signed up except that it was to be vacated at midnight ... which is not going to work for a NYE party. I think someone called Trump, or his people, asking for an extension on time and Trump said 'hell yes' for $40,000.

raven56706 04-02-04 07:45 AM

Did you see Amy in the plane?? Wow that skirt was off the chain........ how short was that? i think nick's dad was looking at it the whole way.....

fourwalker 04-02-04 07:48 AM

I think a lot of people are taking the education angle the wrong way. Basically since day one Troy's defense in the boardroom has been "Mr. Trump, I'm a country bumpkin, and I ain't got no education, but I got street smarts to run your company", he tried that tactic heavy handedly once again in the board room.......... probably because he thinks that Donald would respond well to the self-made man approach, which Donald certainly isn't, but likes to pretend he is

This time Donald, who had gotten tired of the routine and Troy screwing up, said hey "education is important too", more as a way of a rejection of Troy's routine and initiate the justification for his firing. Donald had his mind made up long before Troy and Kwame went in to the boardroom.

fourwalker 04-02-04 07:50 AM


Originally posted by Flashback
Yes you were....good call.

At least in the cab ride interview Troy took it pretty cool unlike most of the others. I still believe that they really liked Troy but some of his tactics were iffy. I still liked him though.


I thought Troy liked he was holding back tears, he was saying all the right things, but robotically.

Dabaomb 04-02-04 07:51 AM


Originally posted by Red Dog
I hate to say it but 2 words: 'affirmative' and 'action.'

What a joke.

For anyone who has a Harvard MBA, the value of your degree keeps dropping each week this carbon blob escapes termination.


Oh well, at least Amber survived tonight's reality games.

This is such a pigheaded remark. IMHO, Kwame is the most intelligent of the group. He may not have the best leadership skills, but his intelligence can't be questioned. Just cuz you go to Harvard Business School doesn't mean that you're gonna have the leadership skills to be a CEO. Goldman Sachs is the best financial firm on the street and there's a reason why he's working there. As are many intellects, he's good at doing work, but not necessarily good at leading.

Red Dog 04-02-04 08:07 AM


Originally posted by Dabaomb
This is such a pigheaded remark. IMHO, Kwame is the most intelligent of the group. He may not have the best leadership skills, but his intelligence can't be questioned. Just cuz you go to Harvard Business School doesn't mean that you're gonna have the leadership skills to be a CEO. Goldman Sachs is the best financial firm on the street and there's a reason why he's working there. As are many intellects, he's good at doing work, but not necessarily good at leading.

Why can I not question his intelligence? What intelligence has he displayed so far? A resume does not display intelligence. Now maybe he has been edited a certain way. Maybe he is intelligent, but so far, there really has not been an indication of it.

Dabaomb 04-02-04 08:13 AM


Originally posted by candyrocket786
So basically, Troy was gone from day one.

Maybe, I'm analyzing this show too much, but overall I thought decision pretty much indicated that someone w/o an "Institutionalized Education" is not qualified to run a company.

Hopefully, Troy will be successful in his future endeavors.

Troy wasn't fired earlier cuz there was always a worse candidate than him.

Troy is a GREAT salesman, but he lacks the focus to be a leader. Education is a major factor in the business world. I don't know of any companies where the CEO doesn't at least have a BA/BS degree. Not having an advanced degree will always create a ceiling for a candidate.

Dabaomb 04-02-04 08:21 AM


Originally posted by Red Dog
Why can I not question his intelligence? What intelligence has he displayed so far? A resume does not display intelligence. Now maybe he has been edited a certain way. Maybe he is intelligent, but so far, there really has not been an indication of it.
You have every right to do so, but the fact that just cuz you see a black man with a Harvard MBA means that it was cuz of affirmative action is pigheaded.

Patman 04-02-04 08:30 AM

As an April Fools prank, in Atlanta, Star-94 "fired" Steve and Vickie and brought in Sam and Ereka for a day. Omarosa was supposed to be there (with Ereka as a backup in case Omarosa acted as a prima donna as she was almost expected to do, and which she did by asking for her flight into Atlanta to be changed 7 times and her schedule didn't have her showing up until 8:30 in the morning which is kind of late for a morning show), and when Omarosa found out that Ereka was there, she declined to go on the show (still hurt by the supposed n-word epithet that Ereka directed towards her while on the show) and would have rather that they have it out on "Oprah" in the national spotlight and not a 2-bit radio station. Ereka was like "whatever..."

Red Dog 04-02-04 08:49 AM


Originally posted by Dabaomb
You have every right to do so, but the fact that just cuz you see a black man with a Harvard MBA means that it was cuz of affirmative action is pigheaded.
You misinterpreted my comment. Trump firing Troy over Kwame was affirmative action. Kwame had done jackshit (on the show) and if education was so important, why invite Troy to do the show to begin with?

How the heck would I know how he got into Harvard Business School?

gettinbranded 04-02-04 09:16 AM


Originally posted by Red Dog
Why can I not question his intelligence? What intelligence has he displayed so far? A resume does not display intelligence. Now maybe he has been edited a certain way. Maybe he is intelligent, but so far, there really has not been an indication of it.
Sure it has---in a lot of the decisions he's made, and in the way he's worked with the group.

Don't confuse business acumen (Bill) or drive (Amy) with intelligence: Kwame.

Nick is the weakest candidate left.

Achtung 04-02-04 09:21 AM

I thought this show was actually good... until the whole "bidders return with two minutes to go and offer the full amount". Gimme a f'in break, what an obvious plant by NBC.

While I do think Amy is hot, I just hate the way she has that little smile going when she gets out of trouble. If someone ever smiled at me like that, I'd have a hard time trying not to smack em in the face.

But again, you won't hear me complaining about the skirts. ;)

Red Dog 04-02-04 09:26 AM


Originally posted by gettinbranded
Sure it has---in a lot of the decisions he's made, and in the way he's worked with the group.


Examples?

BDB 04-02-04 10:04 AM

Poll on boston.com

Do you agree with Trump's decision to "fire" Troy in last night's episode of "The Apprentice."

No, he had good instincts and was a far better leader than Harvard-MBA-totin' Kwame.
49.3%
Yes, as Bernie said, Troy is too much of a loose cannon; he needs more experience.
26.8%
Yes, you need more than a high school diploma to run a multibillion-dollar business.
14.0%
I don't really care about the "why's," I just want to see who wins in the end.
9.9%
Total votes: 2927

taa455 04-02-04 10:38 AM

What I didn't understand is Trump inviting the relatives on the reward. Just before the plane trip he said we would find out if the "relationship" was going anywhere, then Nick's dad and Amy's sister show up! Of course nothing is going to happen with relatives hanging around.

BDB 04-02-04 10:55 AM

he wanted to make sure no-one was squeeging in his bed

Patman 04-02-04 11:14 AM

I think the next Trump show should be: The Stylist! because the Donald is in serious need of a new 'doo.

Fok 04-02-04 11:16 AM

Poor Troy, he was a good guy. Its going to be pretty interesting now, I think Kwame is next to go.

SpaceBoy 04-02-04 01:23 PM

I agree, what a rip that Troy was let go. I still think he was the best guy, and although some of his practices are questionable, think he would be a perfect success story. He learned most of his stuff from trumps book etc.

I think it will come down to the couple, as trump said somewhere(can't remember where) he can control the ratings.. He'll pit the two lovers against each other..

Bill is the best choice at this moment I think.

There can be no doubts that the guy strolling in 2 minutes to go, and offering up 40k+ wasn't a plant. Esp. because it didnt' even work for what he wanted, a new years eve party.. RIPOFF!

raven56706 04-02-04 01:29 PM

I think 2 will be gone.........Nick and Kwame....... All left is Protege vs Versacorp.....


AMY VS BILL

Amy will win because of her short skirts... :drool:

MrN 04-02-04 01:37 PM

Bottom line is Troy has shown he's a salesman of dubious methods and you wouldn't want him as CEO of a company - thats not the reason used but I'm sure it was discussed.

I think its coming down to Nick vs. Bill.

Editing has turned to crap - the oh so obvious lingering on Amy's legs. I guess they're missing the sex appeal thats left over the past few weeks.

Jadzia 04-02-04 01:46 PM

I thought it was really funny when Trump yelled at Troy for reading from notes in the boardroom.

"I hate notes!"

:lol:

Cheddarmuff 04-02-04 02:00 PM

My guess/thoughts on the final two are:

******Bill vs. Amy******

Nick is not that smart, and he has escaped more times than he should have. The whole Trump Ice negotiation went terrible "How about a truck load?" NO "How about a pallet? " NO, "How about a case?"...I would have laughed the guy right out of the place...Nick has the must sell no matter how little mentality since it is still a "win" to him. That is terrible..I guess in his line of work it is better to come out of a meeting with a $2 commission than $0...

Kwame, while he may be intelligent (editing makes it hard to tell for certain) has been pretty much a guy along for the ride. He hasn't stuck his neck out there and gone for the home run, he is much more conservative "slow and steady wins the race" type of guy. I think this is a good philosophy, however, from time to time a CEO needs to make bold decisions (often the boldest ones are the most unpopular) to advance a company's success.


Bill seems to have good business sense, able to quickly identify opportunities and is not afraid to go after them. If I have one knock on him it is that he is not always as aggressive in the board room or when fighting for things he believes in, and when he does he seems a little flustered. You need to remain cool and collected when negotiating contracts and making "big business" deals.

Amy seems to have been on a lucky/winning streak, I can't tell which. I think she often has good ideas (advertising on the back of the bikes, etc.). My only problem with her style is that it involves too much femininity. She will occasionally flirt, bat an eyelash, etc. to get someone over the hump. This will most often not work as a CEO since it all comes down to money and noone is going to give you millions of dollars...sure, $5 for a glass of lemonade and a kiss is fine but you could kiss the union negotiator all you want but they are not going to rollover and give you that 10% pay cut.

However it plays out it has been fun to watch and for the most part the "best" have survived.

Achtung 04-02-04 02:11 PM

I'll admit, I have only been watching the show the past couple of weeks, but from Amy all I've seen is that stupid rent-a-car idea, and then this week's "let the place sell itself!" Not very business-savvy, IMO.

toq 04-02-04 02:28 PM

During the episode with the rickshaws, wasn't she at least partially responsible for coming up with the idea to place advertisements on them?

Tafellappen 04-02-04 02:35 PM


Originally posted by toq
During the episode with the rickshaws, wasn't she at least partially responsible for coming up with the idea to place advertisements on them?
Two words: car rental

I hope Bill wins at this point.

nickdawgy 04-02-04 02:39 PM

I just watched it....why bring Omarosa back? Makes me not want to watch next week.

Kind of sad to see Kwame and Troy "break up"

:lol:


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