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Static Cling 01-11-04 08:54 PM

Alias 1/11
 
Lots of stuff to digest.

With all the "you were gone for nine months here" and "you were gone for nine months there," I was thinking that she had already had a kid.

I'm just glad Weiss isn't the bad guy. Yet, anyways.

"I've never heard of Project Black Hole." "Thank you."

So does everyone think that Syd destroyed all of the tissue & eggs? If the Covenant was thinking, they'd have put half in that building and have in a more safe location.

Looks like next week's episode has absolutely nothing to do with what happened this episode (hope that's not a serious spoiler for anyone), which is unexpected.

Patman 01-11-04 08:56 PM

"Full Disclosure"

Oh, how I enjoy this show, and all of its spy vs. spy motif that always keeps the viewer guessing.

So we find out what Sydney's been through in the past 2 years, and yet, the future is what is really relevant.

And how about that last final scene. Cool.

Colonel Mustard 01-11-04 08:59 PM

I'm starting to notice they've gone away from always tranq'ing the bad guys to using real guns much more often. Glad they've become less PC :D

Rypro 525 01-11-04 08:59 PM

Well, with Vaughn's wife as the sniper and the fact that
Spoiler:
we see Vaughn and Syd kissing
next week could have everything to do with this weeks episode. I;m glad that they waited to tell us what did happen instead of telling us right after she was "found" by vaughn, mainly due to all of the setup that led us to this episode.

Patman 01-11-04 09:03 PM

BTW, can nobody hit anyone with fully automatic weapons?

kevin75 01-11-04 09:05 PM

i just thought it was cool how syd just pulled out the portable flame thrower at the end. :thumbsup:

throughout the episode i had to remember alot of stuff from the past few episodes. that's what happens when it's been a month i guess.

i thought it was a pretty cool show. very good to see dixon back in action again. i am just wondering if the person that we saw as the sniper isn't a red herring.

Patman 01-11-04 09:06 PM

I don't think so, but it was reminiscent of "The Professional".

Venusian 01-11-04 09:08 PM

doh! i read rypro's spoiler cuz i'm stupid...anyway...


yeah, go in shooting with automatics and takes a minute before we see the beakers break?

also, 6 men jumped from the plane, we knew 4 so that easily led me to think the last 2 would be the "red shirts", they were.


someone's gotta go back and watch all of season 3 again to see if its really belivable that she is evil. the main thing i could think of was that she tried to protect sydney from torture, but that makes sense since the covenant wanted the cube.




still a great show, but i dont think its as good as it was the first season. it had more to it than a lot of shock back then

Venusian 01-11-04 09:08 PM


Originally posted by kevin75
throughout the episode i had to remember alot of stuff from the past few episodes. that's what happens when it's been a month i guess.
yeah, they should have had a longer recap at the beginning

Static Cling 01-11-04 09:10 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
Well, with Vaughn's wife as the sniper and the fact that
Spoiler:
we see Vaughn and Syd kissing
next week could have everything to do with this weeks episode.

I don't think that by next episode,
Spoiler:
Vaughn and Sydney will know that Lauren is the sniper
, so it may have nothing to do with this episode... could just be a
Spoiler:
heat of passion, we're going to die, might as well confess our undying love for each other
thing. But maybe you're right.

And does anyone have either the season finale of S2 or the season premiere of S3 handy? Perhaps I'm imagining it, but didn't Vaughn say that he "buried" Sydney? Maybe it was just a figure of speech, as opposed to a continuity error, because I can't imagine that J.J. didn't think this far ahead.

Poor Marshall during that ashes scene... having his hands over his face... I thought that was a nice, human touch.

Static Cling 01-11-04 09:10 PM


Originally posted by Patman
BTW, can nobody hit anyone with fully automatic weapons?
No kidding. Freaking Two-Gun Sark was in the middle of the room at the start of the fire fight, standing STRAIGHT UP, and somehow they manage to miss him.

Rypro 525 01-11-04 09:13 PM

I do believe he said that mike, but not 100% sure but I'll check my tape of it.

Rypro 525 01-11-04 09:14 PM


Originally posted by Static Cling
No kidding. Freaking Two-Gun Sark was in the middle of the room at the start of the fire fight, standing STRAIGHT UP, and somehow they manage to miss him.
is it actually possible to hit anything with two guns and jumping to the side if you are not in a john woo movie?

Venusian 01-11-04 09:14 PM

also, why didn't syd just tell marshall the convenant stole the cube instead of asking him five times if he tracked it?

Venusian 01-11-04 09:14 PM

oh, and the 10 yards thing was good too

Patman 01-11-04 09:15 PM

I think "We buried you" even if it was a cremation is still getting the point across that they went through the ceremony of putting Sydney to rest once the DNA recovered from the apartment was verified.

cracksky 01-11-04 09:16 PM

Anyone else recognize Quentin Tarantino's voice as the guy who told Sydney (as Julie Thorne) to kill the insignificant guy with the tape over his mouth?

He had to have been playing the same character we saw earlier in the series. I can't remember what happened to him. Didn't he have a torture kit of progressively larger-size needles that he used delightfully?

B.A. 01-11-04 09:20 PM


Originally posted by Static Cling
No kidding. Freaking Two-Gun Sark was in the middle of the room at the start of the fire fight, standing STRAIGHT UP, and somehow they manage to miss him.
Dude, he was hidden behind the the table w/ the case on it - that's plenty of protection from people w/ fully-automatic weapons and bad aim. ;)

Jeez, it seemed like a year since the last episode, at least the wife and I thought so.

Great ep - they did an amazing job of tying up a lot of loose ends in under an hour. I'm glad they outed Lauren as a baddie, but I was hoping the Covenant's in-house spy would have been someone a little less predictable and really surprised the shit out of everyone. Either way - they outed her and it's time to move on w/ the story - now maybe Syd will punch her repeatedly in her ****ed-up mouth and fix it. :D

I actually like the Kendall character - I hope they keep using him. And it was nice to see Dixon back in action.

:up: Very glad this show is back on.

B.A. 01-11-04 09:21 PM


Originally posted by cracksky
Anyone else recognize Quentin Tarantino's voice as the guy who told Sydney (as Julie Thorne) to kill the insignificant guy with the tape over his mouth?

He had to have been playing the same character we saw earlier in the series. I can't remember what happened to him. Didn't he have a torture kit of progressively larger-size needles that he used delightfully?

I noticed that right away, too. Kind of cool.

Rypro 525 01-11-04 09:25 PM

same, but I was focused too much on the sneek privview for next week to see if it was him. Oh and I thought Syd killed him in that season one episode.

namja 01-11-04 09:25 PM

I watched all of Season 1 and Season 2 during Christmas break that ... I totally forgot what had happened during the first 10 episodes of S3. Good thing the episode guide on abc.com was handy.

Good ep today. Was hoping for the "full disclosure" to happen more quickly and more things to happen in the present, but I guess I'm just being impatient.

_tony_ 01-11-04 09:32 PM


Originally posted by cracksky
Anyone else recognize Quentin Tarantino's voice as the guy who told Sydney (as Julie Thorne) to kill the insignificant guy with the tape over his mouth?
that is so cool. i went back to check and i'm pretty sure he was actually in the scene too because the sillouette of the guy look just like tarentino.

Static Cling 01-11-04 09:33 PM


Originally posted by cracksky
Anyone else recognize Quentin Tarantino's voice as the guy who told Sydney (as Julie Thorne) to kill the insignificant guy with the tape over his mouth?

He had to have been playing the same character we saw earlier in the series. I can't remember what happened to him. Didn't he have a torture kit of progressively larger-size needles that he used delightfully?

QT's character, McKennas Cole, was drilled full of bullets by the CIA as he tried to escape SD-6, back in S1.

Rypro 525 01-11-04 09:36 PM


Originally posted by Static Cling
QT's character, McKennas Cole, was drilled full of bullets by the CIA as he tried to escape SD-6, back in S1.
I just thought, Syd kicked his ass, not get killed by cia?

FantasticVSDoom 01-11-04 09:40 PM

I think this was by far the best episode all year. Plus I finally got everything from Xmas fully hooked up, and watched it in high definition on the new TV and with all my surround sound in full effect. I think Im going to get spoiled, good thing I dont watch too much TV. Now if only The Shield was in Hi-Def.

Mysteryfan 01-11-04 09:47 PM

Didn't the covenant people do something with one of the test tubes before the attack? It looked like they used a syringe on one of them.

MrX 01-11-04 10:05 PM

good episode

Liked the bit with Marshall and the tracking device.

I'm not sure what to think about the end yet.

Ranger 01-11-04 10:08 PM

This show is just going further and further 'out there.'
(X-Files theme plays)

I was glad that we finally somewhat got to the bottom of things but it just seem so unrealistic. How does one extract the pulps from syn's teeth and re-insert them on the other body. Syn's "you know what? I'll just erase everything in my memory from the past two years" - I didn't like that part much, all this seemed too important to erase as painful as they were.

Static Cling 01-11-04 10:17 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
I just thought, Syd kicked his ass, not get killed by cia?
I'm pretty sure that Jack Bristow de-activated the failsafe C4 charges, which let McKennas Cole into the vault, where he picked up the vial. As he was escaping with the vial out of the SD-6 garage, the CIA team was pulling up, and they shot his car and him full of bullets.

(I'm in the middle of introducing my fiancee to Alias, so I got to watch almost all of Season 1 again with her recently. She's in the middle of Season 2 right now, and her housemates have gotten hooked on it as well. :))

Patman 01-11-04 10:21 PM

Damn, Sark is cold, ordering the hit on his dad.

Rogue588 01-11-04 10:25 PM

wow.

Lauren's the u/c baddie.

-ohbfrank-

I guess i'm alone in saying that I didn't care for this episode.

Rypro 525 01-11-04 10:56 PM


Originally posted by Static Cling
I'm pretty sure that Jack Bristow de-activated the failsafe C4 charges, which let McKennas Cole into the vault, where he picked up the vial. As he was escaping with the vial out of the SD-6 garage, the CIA team was pulling up, and they shot his car and him full of bullets.

(I'm in the middle of introducing my fiancee to Alias, so I got to watch almost all of Season 1 again with her recently. She's in the middle of Season 2 right now, and her housemates have gotten hooked on it as well. :))

just watched the end of the episode. the car did get shot with bullets, but qt escapes, and then syd beats him up, he doesn't move when he's down, but they don't offiically say that he was dead.

Kal-El 01-12-04 12:03 AM

I dunno about you guys but this was The Best Episode of the year. So glad this show is back on.

Anyone else notice the Raiders homage via the Fedora hat Lazarey was wearing in the cave.

Edit to add: Best line of the ep:

"My name is Sidney Bristow you ugly bastard!"

PapaWheelie 01-12-04 12:53 AM


Originally posted by Kal Jedi
I dunno about you guys but this was The Best Episode of the year. So glad this show is back on.

Anyone else notice the Raiders homage via the Fedora hat Lazarey was wearing in the cave.

Edit to add: Best line of the ep:

"My name is Sidney Bristow you ugly bastard!"


Have to agree. Season 3 started off pretty slow (compared to S1 & S2), not to say they were bad--just different from seasons past. But it's really picked up with the past 2-3 episodes... especially with tonight's.

Amazing that they managed to cover all the main points of what happened to Syd--from the missing two years to the memory loss--in a single ep.

Oh, and just to give some context to the line above:

"Your name is Julia Thorne."
"My name is Sydney Bristow you ugly bastard!"

Also loved Marshall's reluctance in acknowledging that he put a tracer on the Rumbaldi device. Another classic Marshall scene. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

kantonburg 01-12-04 06:21 AM

I liked the episode but I have to agree it's getting "out there." Part of the episode was believeable and part of it wasn't. First thing that comes to mind is the whole treasure in the pyramid except this was a cave setup. The one mile trek in that turned out to be crossing the street on the way back will the cave was crumbling. It's just a bit far fetched at this point. Then again it is tv and it's enjoyable to watch.

cracksky 01-12-04 07:17 AM

Even if McKennas Cole survived and Quentin Tarantino was playing the same character on Sunday he still should've recognized Sydney even as Julie Thorne. Hopefully there is more to this scene yet to come.

TheKing 01-12-04 07:19 AM

The main theme of this show is deceptive women. If Alias has taught us nothing else, it has shown how easily men are duped by women willing to put out...or even if they're just hot.

You have female spies, women who marry men to spy on them, and in Vaughn's case, probably to keep him from looking deeper into Sydney's disappearance. And if you look, the only three women who were noble, or at least not living double lives on their own account (Sloane's wife, Dixon's wife, Francie) all ended up dead.

It's an interesting theme to have, but it also made this "twist" all the more predictable. I mean, it's not even the first time Sark has called one of of these deceptive women to take someone out.

I am interested to see where things go from here however. Did Sark get away with the fertalized egg? What's his relationship with Lauren? Is she going to become pregnant with Sydney's baby?

As for Q.T./Cole, he was captured by the C.I.A., not killed. This begs the question, does that mean someone in the C.I.A. is involved with the Covenant? I don't think they'd just put Q.T.'s voice in there just because it sounds so cool. But it would be great to see him do another episode...The Box was great.

TheKing 01-12-04 07:21 AM


Originally posted by cracksky
Even if McKennas Cole survived and Quentin Tarantino was playing the same character on Sunday he still should've recognized Sydney even as Julie Thorne. Hopefully there is more to this scene yet to come.
Well, since he'd be part of the Covenant, and they were testing her in that scene to make sure the brainwashing had been fully effective, then I'd say Cole know who she was in the first place.

Static Cling 01-12-04 08:10 AM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
just watched the end of the episode. the car did get shot with bullets, but qt escapes, and then syd beats him up, he doesn't move when he's down, but they don't offiically say that he was dead.
D'oh. Got it. Then maybe it was McKennas Cole in the Covenant. But the character sounded a lot more reserved than the way McKennas Cole was in those episodes.

cracksky said that he would've recognized Sydney as Julia Thorne if that was the same character... well, yeah. The Covenant kidnapped Sydney in an attempt to turn her into Julia Thorne. So the Covenant board, or whoever those guys were, probably all knew who Julia really was, because they were the guys who nabbed her.

B.A. 01-12-04 08:17 AM


Originally posted by Patman
Damn, Sark is cold, ordering the hit on his dad.
That's what makes his character so great. That and the guy has about nine lives to spend each season. He won't just go away and die.


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