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Chew 12-17-03 02:09 PM

He spent several weeks on the Oprah journal wanting to get on her show, but now that she's finally offered: he won't go? :hscratch:

I'd rather see the "Super Bowl of Love" anyway! :lol:

Alyoshka 12-17-03 03:07 PM


Originally posted by Chew
He spent several weeks on the Oprah journal wanting to get on her show, but now that she's finally offered: he won't go? :hscratch:
I'm thinking that it's turned from being a joke into being a ratings ploy. I think, at this point, that both of these would get a lot of viewers; it all comes down to who does the gimic first. Dave would rather that Oprah come on his show.

X 12-17-03 04:54 PM


Who gets to Letterman? Cher. When she appeared on the show for the first time in May, Letterman asked her why she's been reluctant to be a guest. Cher replied, with a straight face, that she thought he was an "*******." The audience roared, but Letterman was discombobulated and never recovered for the rest of the evening, even though Cher slipped him a note that read, "Dearest David, you're not an *******, love, Cher." "It did hurt my feelings," Letterman admits. "Cher was one of the few people I've really wanted to have on the show, and then she calls me an *******. I felt like a total fool, especially since I say all kinds of things to people. I was sitting there thinking, 'Okay, Mr. Big Shot, can you take it as well as you can dish it out?"

worrywort 11-21-05 09:42 PM

No more oprah log

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20051122/en_tv_eo/17822

She'll be on the Late Show on December 1

mike7162 11-21-05 10:03 PM

Well, apparently Oprah's thin skin won't keep her from selling her new video.

Thrush 11-22-05 12:35 AM

I don't think Oprah needs Letterman to help her sell anything. She can take a dump in a coffee can and those lemmings that watch her show will buy it. I know because my girlfriend is one of them. "I have to see this movie because Oprah said it was good, I have to buy this book because Oprah said so." Shes like a religion for chicks. When Oprah decides to use her powers for evil, were all doomed.

Rogue588 11-22-05 02:47 AM

:lol:

RayChuang 11-22-05 06:25 AM

If you've read Bill Carter's book The Late Shift: Letterman, Leno and the Network Battle for the Night, Carter noted that Letterman--probably because he was less constrained in the Late Night with David Letterman on NBC--had a bad habit of causing problems with celebrity guests, with Cher and Shirley McLaine being the best examples of those problems.

Once Letterman switched to Late Show with David Letterman on CBS, he seemed to tone down himself quite a bit. Nowadays, I find Letterman does far better interviews than Jay Leno does.

It will be very interesting to see how Conan O'Brien does when he becomes the new host of The Tonight Show on NBC in 2009.

Count Dooku 11-22-05 07:00 AM


If you've read Bill Carter's book The Late Shift: Letterman, Leno and the Network Battle for the Night, Carter noted that Letterman--probably because he was less constrained in the Late Night with David Letterman on NBC--had a bad habit of causing problems with celebrity guests, with Cher and Shirley McLaine being the best examples of those problems.
Letterman didn't cause problems with celebrity guests, he encountered problems with them.

McLaine was the one being difficult (I think "being a bitch" would accurately describe it.) Dave grew frustrated, and she called him an asshole.

Dave and Cher never had a problem. She simply wouldn't do the show, and when she finally did, Cher told Dave that she had declined invitations to be a guest because she thought he was an asshole (just like McLaine had said).

The truth is that back in the NBC days, especially in the beginning, Dave was not comfortable and seemingly not capable of fawning over celebrity guests. It's not that he attacked them or was openly hostile, but he certainly didn't smooch their butts like they were accustomed too.

Now Dave has developed the skill of letting a difficult guest just dig their own graves, while he sits back and looks all the better just for putting up with them.

And let's face it, now when a big star comes on the CBS show, they're taking the stage with an equal. Back in the NBC days, big stars felt like they were slumming when they appeared on Dave's show.

And about the Oprah thing

Oprah never understood that it was simply a recognition of her status in American culture that Dave could use her as a go-to punchline. Dave made fat jokes about Oprah, and she couldn't take it. Boo-Hoo. But look at Bill Clinton, he is still willing to go see Dave.

One of the real problems between Oprah and Dave stems from a time when Dave was doing the show in Chicago, and they invited her to be a guest, she said she was busy and then turned up on Leno that night.

About a month ago Oprah and Uma talked about the Oscars thing on her show. Maybe now she's over it.

ChiTownAbs, Inc 11-22-05 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Thrush
I don't think Oprah needs Letterman to help her sell anything. She can take a dump in a coffee can and those lemmings that watch her show will buy it. I know because my girlfriend is one of them. "I have to see this movie because Oprah said it was good, I have to buy this book because Oprah said so." Shes like a religion for chicks. When Oprah decides to use her powers for evil, were all doomed.

You're dating my girlfriend?? :mad:

nny 12-01-05 09:44 PM

Heh, I can't believe I didn't notice that Oprah booked her appearance for the day after sweeps. AICN linked to this article with a history of the feud: http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/entertainment/13291353.htm

Giantrobo 12-02-05 01:47 AM

"Hey it's Nick, have you seen Jessica?"

rotfl

B.A. 12-02-05 06:51 AM

That Star-Telegram article about their history is cracking me up as I re-live watching a lot of those moments on his show. He is such a funny bastard and she is just...a bitch. I couldn't watch more than a minute or two of her appearance - blah.

the action 12-02-05 08:07 AM

Letterman put on a good show...good for him.

Phil L. 12-02-05 08:40 AM

Dear gawd at first glance when I saw this thread I thought...it's only the morning after this show and we already got three pages on it!?! -eek-

Anyway...
Leno had baby animals on last night. I thought they were cute.

Red Dog 12-02-05 09:13 AM

I can't understand why Oprah going on Letterman is such a big deal?

GoldenJCJ 12-02-05 06:10 PM

I watched about 45 seconds, remembered Oprah's an egotistical bitch, and changed the channel. It's ashame that Dave's show has fallen so for that this appearance was his biggest "event" of the year.


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