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cleaver 05-01-14 08:53 AM

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I thought I could talk about Young Justice but the pain is still too near

JasonF 05-01-14 09:38 AM

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Not the Reunion, but what was that sitcom about a bunch of elementary school classmates who reunited as adults? Njason Ritter, Lizzy Kaplan, Andrea Anders, Jesse Tyler Ferguson ...

It was pretty good. I suppose I could look up the name of the show.

And I just did. The Class. Ran for one season (2006-07) on CBS. It was pretty good (but not great) if I remember correctly.

PenguinJoe 05-01-14 10:21 AM

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I actually thought the Will Arnett/Christina Applegate show Up All Night was pretty good. The showrunner said NBC kept tinkering with the show though wanting to give Maya Rudolph a bigger role than necessary and then adding Sean Hayes unnecessarily to the point that the show was no longer fun to write. Initially it was just a show about a stay at home Dad with a working wife. Way better than About A Boy and the show about the blind Dad.

Michael Corvin 05-01-14 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cleaver (Post 12094222)
I thought I could talk about Young Justice but the pain is still too near

:up:

riley_dude 05-01-14 12:36 PM

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Journeyman comes to mind. Also Almost Human since that was just cancelled.

GoldenJCJ 05-01-14 12:52 PM

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I rarely watch network shows anymore but the last one I really enjoyed that was cancelled too soon was Fox's Alcatraz. Seemed like it was just starting to gain its footing when it was canned.

JTH182 05-01-14 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 12094447)
I rarely watch network shows anymore but the last one I really enjoyed that was cancelled too soon was Fox's Alcatraz. Seemed like it was just starting to gain its footing when it was canned.

By the time they got to the meaty part of the story all the viewers had gone. I stuck with it, but I think it took too long to get going for the average viewer.

Journeyman was a good answer.

Mind of the Married Man I thought really went downhill when he actually decided to cheat. The whole point of the show was the temptations he faced, and how he dealt with them.

Goat3001 05-01-14 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 12094447)
I rarely watch network shows anymore but the last one I really enjoyed that was cancelled too soon was Fox's Alcatraz. Seemed like it was just starting to gain its footing when it was canned.

Problem today is that if a show doesn't start off with a bang, there is little chance of it sticking around. Too much competition and too much panic from the networks to let viewers ease into a good story.

Goat3001 05-01-14 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ATX (Post 12094156)
how bout that show Reunion (FOX)...i dont remember why they cancelled it and didnt officially air the last few eps

Awesome show. Still pissed that they canned that.


Originally Posted by Decker (Post 12093500)
I still have no idea why Happy Endings didn't survive or take off. It was SO damn funny. It had a lot in common with Scrubs (including actress Eliza Coupe) and that show lasted way, way longer -- longer than it should have, actually. This show was brilliant and I still can't believe it never became popular. Wish they would have just parked it after Modern Family and just waited. Nothing else ever worked with that great lead-in, so why not at least put a fantastic show in the slot and hope that the public eventually will figure it out -- the "Parks & Recreation" strategy.

ABC pretty much screwed up that show every step of the way. Yeah it was a little off kilter but I don't know a single person that didn't think it was great. You're completely right, they should have just let it sit after Modern Family. It would still be on today.

brayzie 05-01-14 04:39 PM

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Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
I know the show had its detractors but I thought it was great. A couple episodes in the second season weren't so-so but even then, the performances were all great and I really liked the different SF spins the writers put in each episode. The first episode of Season 2 was probably one of the highlights of television for me.

Don't Trust the B- in Apt 23
This show was non-stop hilarious to me. I really don't see how it didn't find an audience. Way better than 2 Broke Girls in my opinion.

GoldenJCJ 05-01-14 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat3001 (Post 12094689)
Problem today is that if a show doesn't start off with a bang, there is little chance of it sticking around. Too much competition and too much panic from the networks to let viewers ease into a good story.

Yep. That's the main reason I stopped watching network shows. I got tired of being screwed as a viewer so I stopped watching new shows. Now I only watch once a complete series hits Netflix or Blu-ray.

Ironically, because of feeling burned in the past I've now become part of the problem.

andicus 05-01-14 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 12094701)
Don't Trust the B- in Apt 23
This show was non-stop hilarious to me. I really don't see how it didn't find an audience. Way better than 2 Broke Girls in my opinion.

Yeah, I liked that one. The only real weak spot was the guy across that alley.

I still chuckle thinking about the episode where Chloe caught June masturbating in the bathtub.

Paff 05-01-14 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 12094701)
Don't Trust the B- in Apt 23
This show was non-stop hilarious to me. I really don't see how it didn't find an audience. Way better than 2 Broke Girls in my opinion.

Adding insult to injury is that a cast member from Don't Trust... is now a regular on 2 Broke Girls, which only serves to remind me how much funnier Don't Trust was.

PenguinJoe 05-01-14 06:46 PM

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The Jon Stewart Show

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Norm de Plume 05-01-14 08:58 PM

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Whatever did happen to that guy?

Goat3001 05-02-14 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 12094702)
Yep. That's the main reason I stopped watching network shows. I got tired of being screwed as a viewer so I stopped watching new shows. Now I only watch once a complete series hits Netflix or Blu-ray.

Ironically, because of feeling burned in the past I've now become part of the problem.

I agree and I'm the same way. I also realize I'm part of the problem. Hopefully as streaming and binge watching becomes more and more popular, networks will stick with shows that have small but dedicated audiences. Once word of mouth spreads and the show is available to stream more people will pick it up. Networks just need to be patient.

davidh777 05-02-14 01:07 PM

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I liked Don't Trust the B, though the wife hated it. :lol:

This thread is giving me a hankering to marathon Sarah Connor Chronicles and Pushing Daisies. :sad:

madcougar 05-02-14 03:21 PM

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Didn't realize this was an 11-year-old thread... was going to come in with Undeclared...


Originally Posted by madcougar (Post 4100495)
I was going to include Undeclared, but then I read this post. There you go.

Seriously, I loved this show and was sad to see it relegated to the dumpster by Fox.


TimeandTide 05-02-14 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 12094701)
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
I know the show had its detractors but I thought it was great. A couple episodes in the second season weren't so-so but even then, the performances were all great and I really liked the different SF spins the writers put in each episode. The first episode of Season 2 was probably one of the highlights of television for me.

:thumbsup:

My vote as well.

Nice to see Lena Heady get so much acclaim on GoT.

And Summer Glau is getting steady work on Arrow.

Navinabob 05-02-14 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TimeandTide (Post 12095569)
:thumbsup:

My vote as well.

Nice to see Lena Heady get so much acclaim on GoT.

And Summer Glau is getting steady work on Arrow.

That show made me a fan of Brian Austin Green even.

UAIOE 05-03-14 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brayzie (Post 12094701)
Way better than 2 Broke Girls in my opinion.

A TV not even plugged in is better than 2 Broke Girls, but 2BG is light years better than "Two and a Half Men".

As great as seeing Kat Dennings breasts crammed into tight shirts is, they can't make me overlook the mediocrity of the show.

Xiroteus 05-03-14 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 12094702)
Yep. That's the main reason I stopped watching network shows. I got tired of being screwed as a viewer so I stopped watching new shows. Now I only watch once a complete series hits Netflix or Blu-ray.

Ironically, because of feeling burned in the past I've now become part of the problem.

I did tried that for a couple years. I still had already running shows to watch yet did not want to bother with new shows until they were proven because I got tired of shows being cancelled on a cliffhanger. However I wanted new stuff to watch so I went back to watching new programs and waiting for them to cancel everything.

I still think cliffhangers are a horrible idea unless they KNOW it's picked up.

DJariya 05-03-14 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Xiroteus (Post 12096018)
I did tried that for a couple years. I still had already running shows to watch yet did not want to bother with new shows until they were proven because I got tired of shows being cancelled on a cliffhanger. However I wanted new stuff to watch so I went back to watching new programs and waiting for them to cancel everything.

I still think cliffhangers are a horrible idea unless they KNOW it's picked up.

Shows are produced months before a renewal announcement. They usually wrap filming a season around March or early April. Renewal announcements are in mid May. The writers and producers can't wait until a network decides if it's coming back to write a cliffhanger ending or not. Sometimes you just have to go with what is the most effective storytelling element for a season Finale and cliffhangers are part of that. That's usually the show runners decision.

Raul3 05-03-14 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 12095609)
That show made me a fan of Brian Austin Green even.

This.

Xiroteus 05-03-14 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12096029)
Shows are produced months before a renewal announcement. They usually wrap filming a season around March or early April. Renewal announcements are in mid May. The writers and producers can't wait until a network decides if it's coming back to write a cliffhanger ending or not. Sometimes you just have to go with what is the most effective storytelling element for a season Finale and cliffhangers are part of that. That's usually the show runners decision.

Oh I know. It's the one accept of it that I think is ridiculous. Just don't do cliffhangers. I could not even stand being part of a show that did not have a complete story.

I prefer a better bookend to a season. Most of the time the season opener gets shown and the next episode has nothing to do with the events of what happened and starts a new story.


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