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Morf 09-23-03 02:39 PM

Study: Use of profanity increasing on TV
 
Fu¢k yeah!

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html


LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Television is cussing up an increasingly blue streak, according to a study of the major broadcast networks.

"During the 2002-2003 season, the broadcast networks attempted to rewrite the book on language standards for television," the Parents Television Council, a watchdog group, said in a report released Monday.

The council said it studied all primetime entertainment series from a two-week period in 1998, 2000 and 2002 and found a jump in profanity on "virtually every network" and in every time slot.

The group called on the TV industry to "get serious about reducing the flood of vulgarity. ... Barring that, the FCC needs to get serious about enforcing broadcast decency laws," the group said of the Federal Communications Commission.

The study examined ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, WB and UPN.

During the so-called "family hour," from 8-9 p.m., foul language increased by 94.8 percent between 1998 and 2002, the study found. It rose by 109 percent during the 9 p.m. hour in the same period.

The smallest increase, 38.7 percent, occurred during the last hour of primetime, 10-11 p.m., when young children are least likely to be in the audience, the council said.

The group noted what it called "minor" improvements.

Foul language in the 8 p.m. hour on Fox fell 25 percent in the study period. But the study found profanity rose 75 percent during the 9 p.m. hour on Fox.

On ABC, offensive language decreased by 17 percent in the study period, mostly because of improvements during the latter two primetime hours. But profanity was up by 61.7 percent during the family hour, the study found.

An ABC spokesman Monday said the network had not seen the report and declined comment. A Fox spokesman declined comment.

In a similar, earlier study, the PTC found that sexual content on TV was less frequent but more explicit.

Y2K Falcon 09-23-03 03:18 PM

No shit.

grunter 09-23-03 05:25 PM

Too ****ing bad.

Get the "eff" over it, already.

Start curing cancer or feeding the hungry or something useful, please.

leepyswetr 09-23-03 07:00 PM


Originally posted by Y2K Falcon
No shit.
Shit, that's what I was going to say.

DRG 09-23-03 07:07 PM

I'd like to see the list of what constitutes as profanity by their standards.

Ninja Gaiden 09-23-03 07:23 PM

Yeah, getting offended by certain words has always seemed to me to be incredibly immature. I just can't even begin to comprehend why fu*k, shit, bitch and all these other words are so horribly wrong? Look, I can't type out fu*k but we all know exactly what the word is. It's mind-numbingly stupid. I'll be glad when the day comes that shows like Sopranos can be shown on regular tv with no censorship. We have V-Chips and such things now so there is no excuse. If you don't want your kids to see these things, take 5 minutes out of your day and figure out how to use that V-chip. Why do we have to watch watered down crap becasue some people might be lazy parents?

huzefa 09-23-03 08:18 PM

I don't care about the profanity that much; but what's with the prudish attitude towards nudity?

BizRodian 09-23-03 10:34 PM

Because a lot of North Americans lump sex and nudity together, and lump sex and immorality together. Nudity has the POTENTIAL to be sexual, and sex has the POTENTIAL to be immoral. They don't see the difference between a rape scene and someone getting out of the shower.

I think after 10pm, anything goes. As it should be. Sopranos aired here at 10pm on network TV uncut, and there was no fuss because kids were in bed, and there were plenty of warnings.

I just find it so funny when you guys air a movie like Starship Troopers, cut out all the naughty words and bare breasts, but leave in the guys getting ripped apart and set on fire.

Because that's less offensive.

Jackskeleton 09-24-03 12:07 AM

People's standards are easing up on it. if the american public didn't get decensitized(sp) then we would still have standards to where you couldn't show anything above the ankle along thelines of leg flashes. :p

we still hold some standards to nudity of course. I'm sure in about 5 years give or take, we will see some nudity on tv.

atari2600 09-24-03 12:37 AM

seriously whats the big deal about swear words? south park had it right - if we just let shit become a normal word, it will quickly lose its 'taboo'-ness. these words are bad because most people just accept them as bad.

look at words like damn and bitch. years ago they were HORRIBLE words...now everyone says them all the time. its no big deal. shit is slowly approaching that status. i assume f*** will within 5-10 years.

let kids hear and say these words. all we have to do is make them not-bad-things-to-say. soon they will say it less and it wont even be a big deal.

Spooky 09-24-03 04:35 AM

In the days before TV, wasn't the "Parents Television Council" known as the "Hitler Bookburning Club"?

big whoppa 09-24-03 05:28 AM

Alright, I'll be the sole voice against profanity on TV. You want it then get pay cable.

You can't stop kids from learning these words off the street but why do we need it broadcast on TV? When I was a kid, I prefered innocence. Why do kids have to learn profanity, rape, and other adult issues from TV? Loss of innocence is a sad state of affairs for kids. It's no surprise that kids are doing drugs, dressing like hos, and having sex at an early age. And, no, I do not have any kids.

Morf 09-24-03 08:50 AM


Originally posted by big whoppa
Loss of innocence is a sad state of affairs for kids.
It is a fine line between "innocence" and "ignorance." I would prefer that my children learn about the world around them as early as possible.

wlmowery 09-24-03 08:59 AM

I agree that the curse words are taboo based on historical treatment of the words themselves. Unfortunately, if we make use of such words commonplace and acceptable, other new taboo words will come along and replace the current crop.

Look, kids will go out of their way to seem cool, hip and cutting edge. They will constantly use vulgarity, in whatever form, for the shock value it causes.

However, as an adult I personally do not see the need for the use of shock language in family hour viewing programs. I have no problem with such language in later viewing times in shows/situations where the language used adds value/meaning to the situation being portrayed. To just use vulgarity for the sake of using it alone is meaningless.

Rypro 525 09-24-03 09:15 AM

i'm surprised that nip tuck hasn't gotten into trouble over content (rear nudity, tons of sex, brief female nudity in the pilot), and lots of swearing. surprised that advertisers didn't pull out early.

Miami Joe 09-24-03 10:41 AM

big whoppa... you're not alone. Agree completely.

ChrisHicks 09-24-03 10:57 AM


Originally posted by wlmowery

However, as an adult I personally do not see the need for the use of shock language in family hour viewing programs. I have no problem with such language in later viewing times in shows/situations where the language used adds value/meaning to the situation being portrayed. To just use vulgarity for the sake of using it alone is meaningless.

hey, maybe I want to see Homer Simpson yell out a "Oh, Fu*k" instead of "D'oh" from time to time.:D

Spooky 09-24-03 11:21 AM

The evening news is far more violent and potentially damaging to children's psyche than any network show.

I've been hearing this "TV is warping children" all my life...it's a nice excuse for irresponsible parents.

Y2K Falcon 09-24-03 11:28 AM


Originally posted by big whoppa
Alright, I'll be the sole voice against profanity on TV. You want it then get pay cable.
You don't want it, block shows by rating.

Or *gasp* tell kids what they can and can't watch, and occasionally keep an eye on them.

Now, as long as my stepson doesn't find out that he can watch a 'live tv' show currently being recorded without entering the code, things will be ok! ;)

Draven 09-24-03 11:34 AM


Originally posted by big whoppa
Alright, I'll be the sole voice against profanity on TV. You want it then get pay cable.

You can't stop kids from learning these words off the street but why do we need it broadcast on TV? When I was a kid, I prefered innocence. Why do kids have to learn profanity, rape, and other adult issues from TV? Loss of innocence is a sad state of affairs for kids. It's no surprise that kids are doing drugs, dressing like hos, and having sex at an early age. And, no, I do not have any kids.

It's not like the profanity has been showing up in kid's shows. I'd guess that most of it is present in shows that are definitely NOT for kids.

And the whole "family hour" of television watching is a joke anyway.

Josh Z 09-24-03 11:48 AM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
i'm surprised that nip tuck hasn't gotten into trouble over content (rear nudity, tons of sex, brief female nudity in the pilot), and lots of swearing. surprised that advertisers didn't pull out early.
Cable channels tend to have more leniency due to their much smaller viewing audiences.

Rypro 525 09-24-03 12:03 PM

I'm surprised friends got away with saying "no shit" in the season finale right in the family hour (as with tons of sex related jokes), and unlike for chicago hope, they didn't even advertise for it.

Draven 09-24-03 12:46 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
I'm surprised friends got away with saying "no shit" in the season finale right in the family hour (as with tons of sex related jokes), and unlike for chicago hope, they didn't even advertise for it.
What? I watched that episode and I don't remember that at all.

ChrisHicks 09-24-03 12:58 PM

I don't remember that either.

Morf 09-24-03 02:13 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
I'm surprised friends got away with saying "no shit" in the season finale
I think you are full of shit. (Couldn't resist). I don't recall that, either.

kurupt 09-24-03 02:41 PM

The standards are different for broadcasted material than they are for cable material due to the fact that one has (well...theoretically has) to pay for cable, whereas ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX affilates can be recieved over the "publicly owned" airwaves. Therefore the FCC is much tighter with it's regulations on broadcasted material. As for my opinion, I agree with most here in that the notion that the word "crap" is somehow ok while it's exact synonym, "shit" is not ok is a ridiculous notion. I have no problem with profanity unless it's used for nothing more than shock value or novelty. I think that profanity adds to the overall sense of realism on, say, NYPD Blue because, while I've never been "walking the beat" in New York, I highly doubt that most New York cops run around saying things like "Gosh darnit!" It would be different though, if Lucy from 7th Heaven were running around talking like Joe Peci in Goodfellas. I think that South Park's take on the use of profanity on tv hit the proverbial nail on the head.

spainlinx0 09-24-03 05:27 PM

Why would you want to make shit and other curse words useless? The fact that they are taboo is what makes them effective. By overusing them they lose their power, and there is no longer a point in using them. They are supposed to be used to convey a stronger emotion, and should be used sparingly. Why someone would try to intentionally water down a part of the vocabulary is beyond me.

Iron_Giant 09-24-03 05:41 PM

My son starting using profanity when was 6 years old because of TV.

We had to teach him what words are OK to use and what what kinds of words are not OK. It took about 1 year to stop the 4 letter words, but he has stopped now.

I do not freak out over profanity, but if it gets to much I will turn the channel. I turn the channel not just for my kids, but also for me - it takes away from the show. Profanity draws attention to itself and does nothing to enhance the TV show (IMHO).

Rypro 525 09-24-03 05:46 PM

well i read on the season finale thread that they said that, but didn't hear it either and assumed that I missed it (i was flipping channels)

atari2600 09-25-03 01:46 PM


Originally posted by wlmowery
I agree that the curse words are taboo based on historical treatment of the words themselves. Unfortunately, if we make use of such words commonplace and acceptable, other new taboo words will come along and replace the current crop.


yeah like plag, frof, and dare i say (i bet itll get censored here) welf.

Morf 09-25-03 02:39 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
well i read on the season finale thread that they said that, but didn't hear it either and assumed that I missed it (i was flipping channels)
Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.


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