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The Flash! But is it really?
Komarnicki, WB revive superhero skein with time travel twist
By JOSEF ADALIAN 'The Flash' The WB's drama development for fall 2004 is picking up speed, with the Frog making a put pilot commitment to a new take on D.C. Comics superhero the Flash. Feature scribe-producer Todd Komarnicki ("Resistance") is writing the pilot and will exec produce the project via Warner Bros. Television and his Guy Walks Into a Bar shingle. Net has attached a hefty penalty to the project if it's not picked up to series. "The Flash" -- which revolves around an ordinary man with superhuman speed -- is the Frog's latest attempt to reimagine a comic or literary classic for primetime following the success of its Superman-inspired "Smallville." Last season's "Birds of Prey" didn't work out, but execs have high hopes for this fall's "Tarzan." "It's becoming an unexpected tradition for us," said Carolyn Bernstein, WB exec VP of drama development. As with "Smallville," the new "Flash" will have a "no tights, no flights" philosophy, which means the character won't be clad in the classic red suit. He'll also have a cool 21st-century mantra that will guide his life. "Once our hero gets his calling, he's given the advice, 'Live fast so others don't die young,' " Komarnicki said. Per Bernstein, WBTV topper Peter Roth came to the net a few months ago to pitch the idea of bringing "The Flash" back to the small screen. (CBS had its own "Flash" skein back in 1990.) "The twist Peter talked to us about was incorporating time travel into the Flash mythology," she said. "We've been talking internally about doing a 'Time Tunnel'-style show, and this was the perfect way to blend time travel with an established franchise we know is beloved by people who know the comic." And so in the new "Flash," our hero will be a fresh-out-of-college Gothamite who discovers he has the ability to move very fast -- so fast, in fact, that he can travel backward or forward in time. He'll use that skill to right wrongs, save lives and kick ass. "This is a story about a guy who's aimlessly drifting through life and barely moving at the speed of life when he discovers his calling is to move at the speed of light," Komarnicki said. Bernstein said the show will have self-contained storylines each week in addition to ongoing plot points. "Every week he'll have a mission, a la 'Mission: Impossible,' " Bernstein said. "It's a big, fun, adventure series. There's also a mentor character who'll train him, and there's a legacy of Flashes before him." The new "Flash" will not be a brooding superhero, but he will recognize that his new life means plenty of compromises. "When he's in the future, he's missing his present," Komarnicki said. "He's really giving up some of his own life to help others." Scribe-producer said he feels like he's "won the lottery in getting to work with Peter Roth and the WB." On the feature front, Komarnicki and production partner Jon Berg are producing New Line's big holiday comedy "Elf" and have teamed with the studio for the David Dorfman ("Anger Management") pic "The Retreat." "The Flash" was packaged by Komarnicki's reps at Endeavor. I thought this was supposed to be the a seires about the FLASH, WTF is all this Time Cop bullshit they're adding!? -rolleyes- I was one of the few that happened to enjoy the CBS version with John Wesley Shipp. http://www.stomptokyo.com/img-m1/flash.jpg |
Actually that is pretty close to the comic book version. Flash time travels in the comics a bunch, had a mentor, and has a legacy of previous flashes.
Sounds kind of cool to me. I liked the CBS version too. |
I also liked the CBS version.
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Yeah the CBS series was pretty good at least maybe we'll get the original on DVD now
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What else was the guy that played the Flash on CBS in? He looks familiar.
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Originally posted by Mopower What else was the guy that played the Flash on CBS in? He looks familiar. |
He was also the dad in The Neverending Story II.
I think the time travel bit is a bad addition. |
The CBS Flash was a highly enjoyable series. I agree, let's hope that it is brought to DVD soon!
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Good production value on CBS Flash and Shipp was good in the role. Too bad it didn't last long.
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The Flash comic has been really good for a long time now, but they keep making him more powerful. I always thought superspeed was one of the best powers you could have, but during Mark Waid's long run on the book, Flash became so powerful that every threat was boring. This included the time travel stuff.
I remember the first Flash comic I ever read and even long before Waid started on the title, Flash seemed way too powerful. In that comic a bullet was about to hit him without him even knowing it. At the exact instant the bullet touched him, his body automatically went into superspeed where all time around him was barely moving. It's a cool ability and made for a great story, but with all his powers I don't see how anything can hurt him. I don't know how many times I've been reading the comic and just thinking he could do this or that and he'd have his problem resolved. It's pretty annoying. |
Originally posted by Mopower What else was the guy that played the Flash on CBS in? He looks familiar. |
What are the chances that the show's time travel will take place with the help of the Cosmic Trademill????
Probably about the same chance of seeing Krypto, Streaky, Beppo, or any of the other super pets on "Smallville". And does this news mean that the WB is no longer working on developing a "Starman" show? |
Originally posted by big whoppa Good production value on CBS Flash and Shipp was good in the role. Too bad it didn't last long. |
i watched the cbs version when I was little (late 80's early 90's right?)
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Originally posted by GuessWho If it had lasted, Shipp wouldn't have been able to have a starring role on Dawson's Creek. ;) (Dawson's dad for 4 seasons) |
I thought the CBS Flash had better chemistry than Lois and Clark did at the time.
I don't mind a mentor [cough]*Jay Garrick*[/cough] and I hope this is more Barry Allen like the CBS show, but it sounds more Kid Flash/Wally West and using the speed force. |
Originally posted by Gamblor187 What are the chances that the show's time travel will take place with the help of the Cosmic Trademill???? i'll watch the new show but as flash probably has the best superhero costume, i'm disapointed that the new show won't have a costume. |
The Flash character isn't nearly as well known as Supes- I don't think the "no tights" thingy is going to work in this case.
Starman is perfect for it, since Jack never wore tights anyways. You can't get any more "anti-hero" than Jack Knight.:) Hell, at least this might get the 90s Flash show on DVD. |
I guess I'll give the show a shot. I have my doubts, though, since <B>Birds of Prey</B> sucked donkey and <B>Smallville</B> sucks (even though I watch it...but I'll probably stop soon).
Count me among those who also liked the CBS show. http://www.ameritech.net/users/dvdtalk/rome.gif |
add me to the list that Loved the CBS flash show. bought the LD and all. :)
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:drool: ... one of the reasons we all watched the original series! |
THe CBS FLASH had the BEST "real life version" of a superhero costume around. :up:
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Originally posted by devilshalo I don't mind a mentor [cough]*Jay Garrick*[/cough] and I hope this is more Barry Allen like the CBS show, but it sounds more Kid Flash/Wally West and using the speed force. Actually, you guys should read Flash #200, in some ways it is the start of a reboot. It is quite interesting and I can't wait to see where they take it. Although Hypertime destroyed the DC universe for a while, the inclusion of the Speed Force greatly helped the Flash comic book become one of the top tier ones in the DC universe. |
Yeah flash 200 is good. I dig the rain sequence.
But to be honest since they're making the flash loose his suit, come from gotham city and having him do a 'kungfuwalkthe earthtimetravel' schtick then why even have the flash? Why not just create a new character so they can do whatever they want with it? To cash in on a property, er franchise? I think the thing is with smallville is that its a prequel. It doesnt have him in space or in the year 3000. It stays true to the characters. |
Originally posted by Dave Scarpa Yeah the CBS series was pretty good at least maybe we'll get the original on DVD now |
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Kind of sounds like a new version of "Seven Days." Without seeing it I can't really make a judgement of course, but I do have some reservations about the whole time travel thing.
I don't think I ever saw the CBS version :( I do vaguely remember it being around, but I never got a chance to catch it. I'd definitely like to see it released on DVD so I could check it out. |
The TV movies are available at Amazon, but only on VHS. :(
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Originally posted by adamblast He's also more-or-less out of the closet these days, more so than most American actors, anyway. Yep. I remember when The Flash was on TV. I had a gay co-worker who told me Shipp was gay. I didn't know or really care for that matter. I liked the show and him being gay never bothered me. |
I really liked the John Wesley Shipp Flash series. I still talk about it to this day, but very few people remember it. I have my doubts about this new show, but I thought the same thing about Smallville and it is my favorite show right now. I would rather they did him in the outfit though. Makes more sense.
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I am a HUGE DC comics fan. I have enjoyed just about all of the shows based on these characters (Lois and Clark, Smallville, Superboy, The Flash, Birds of Prey, Animated Batman, Superman, Justice League, etc, etc). This new Flash show just seems wrong. Why bother calling it the Flash? Like someone else above posted, just create a new show with a new character.
I enjoy Smallville and I'm not bothered by the "no tights, no flights" issue. This is a prequel about Superman before he flies and wears the cape. We know that eventually it will lead to this. I'm betting that by the time the show is finished, we will at least see the costume made and in Clark's hands. And why does The Flash have to come from Gotham City? What the heck is up with that? The CBS Flash show was great. I'd love to see another show like that done today with the effects that are now available. The suit was awesome and so was JWS. Now.. bring us a live action Batman show!! Can't wait for that to happen one day... hopefully it would be better than the crappy movies that they've made. Joel Schumacher should be locked up for making those horrible monstrosities! |
Another thumbs up for the CBS Flash! I was a kid when the show came on, but I loved it. I have almost every episode on tape sitting around my house somewhere. A cool episode I remember was that one where The Flash is cloned and his clone isn't too smart. The only problem with the CBS show was that it suffered from the same thing Louis & Clark suffered from. It ran out of ideas and started having villian after villian come in to fight the superheroes. Got pretty stupid after a while.
I'm not too big on the new Flash ideas either. No costume, no brooding hero, no Amanda Pays. Seems like they want to use time travel as the selling point of the show, which may or may not work. |
Originally posted by Dave Scarpa Yeah the CBS series was pretty good at least maybe we'll get the original on DVD now I think I watched it every week it came on. |
The CBS Flash only lasted one season, didn't it? Either way, I'd give my left nut for season set's of that. Loved it.
With that said, I don't like 'Smallville' (tho I will buy Season One - in hopes it gives WB some idea that we want more Superman *LOIS AND CLARK!!!*) . And I don't like the idea of this new Flash. Took everything that makes the Flash, the Flash away and what are you left with? Not a lot. Seems like it's just a cheap attempt to use a character name and get popular fast. Oh and for the record. http://www.toptown.com/dorms/creedst.../tv/flash2.jpg Take that material and make a Batman outfit and you are set...Listen up Nolan! :) |
bringing back the dead just to comment on a thread I over looked. The original flash show was great. Loved it and had danny elfman's theme that sounded great. All those features (time travel, mentor, etc.) sounds right down to the mark.
Paul Dini did write something about the flash and his use in the JLU cartoons. He stated that it's hard to write for the flash because he is to damn powerful. What sort of drama can you have when the guy can go home, take a shower, change, go do some shopping and still come back in time to the scene of the crime to catch bullets mid air. He is really really powerful. But the CBS Flash was greatly handled. I had a chance to take a look at the entire season again. |
Originally posted by Giantrobo Yep. I remember when The Flash was on TV. I had a gay co-worker who told me Shipp was gay. I watched a few episodes of the original series. It was pretty good, but I like the no costume idea. |
Originally posted by Goldberg74 http://www.photowrld.com/pics/apays.jpg :drool: ... one of the reasons we all watched the original series! I did enjoy the series as a whole, but she gave me the serious hot. |
He'll also have a cool 21st-century mantra that will guide his life. |
I'm up for a Flash revival if it is done well.
He's also more-or-less out of the closet these days, more so than most American actors, anyway. Good for him. I also remember seeing him in a softcore movie in the late 70s which was very intersting. I think it was called something like, The Dirtiest show in town. It's not on his resume. |
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