slop101

^ Give B5 a shot - but judging by what you wrote, I'd say that you'd be more of a Farscape fan.

garmonbozia

well I started watching Babylon 5 today. I watched The Gathering and the first episode of Season 1.

In another thread people said to watch the episodes in the order that they are presented on the dvds (which seems to be the order in which episodes were aired in the US). This website says otherwise though:
http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countr...er/eplist.html
The ordering is different in places and it says "JMS has given the ordering for seasons one and two his blessing."

For comparison the US airing order is here: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/eplist.html

What are people's opinions on which order is better? I don't mind shuffling discs around to watch the episodes in the best possible order.

Bandoman

I watched them in the order in which they are presented on the DVDs, and I have no complaints.


Does anyone know when Season 4 is being released?

garmonbozia

I have a question. Why are some of the characters that were in the pilot suddenly not in the series. Most noticeable was the Takashima character. She had a major role in the pilot (and was a high ranking crew member) and then is inexpicably not in the series (and it seems by looking at the IMDB, she doesn't resurface). I'm just curious as to why this was never explained....
anyone know?

Chew

Within the series, there are reasons given for all the characters missing.

Outside the series, all of those people who left can't act.

garmonbozia

lol, ok thanks for that.
I guess it will be explained eventually then? I've only seen the first two episodes of season 1 so far.

Thanks.

Seeker

The simplest explanation for some moves (like Takashimia) is that in "real life" - people get transferred from military bases to other places - i.e. things change, people change.

Unlike Star Trek, for example, where no one ever gets promoted or transferred....(more or less)

Bandoman

*ahem* - WHEN IS SEASON 4 BEING RELEASED?

dstrauss

Pat Tallman (Lyta) didn't return for the series after appearing in the pilot because her agent asked for too much money.

garmonbozia

thanks for the info.

Chew

I don't think it's been announced yet.

Deckard-10

MV = Movie. &nbsp S1 - S5 signifies the season. &nbsp The following is what most consider the best viewing order:

MV.001 - The Gathering (Story Year: 2257)

Season One ("Signs and Portents") (Story Year: 2258)

S1.001 - Midnight on the Firing Line
S1.002 - Soul Hunter
S1.003 - Born to the Purple
S1.004 - Infection
S1.005 - The Parliament of Dreams
S1.006 - Mind War
S1.007 - The War Prayer
S1.008 - And The Sky Full Of Stars
S1.009 - Deathwalker
S1.010 - Believers
S1.011 - Survivors
S1.012 - By Any Means Necessary
S1.013 - Signs and Portents
S1.014 - TKO
S1.015 - Grail
S1.016 - Eyes
S1.018 - Legacies
S1.019 - A Voice in the Wilderness part 1
S1.020 - A Voice in the Wilderness part 2
S1.021 - Babylon Squared
S1.022 - The Quality of Mercy
S1.023 - Chrysalis

Season Two ("The Coming Of Shadows") (Story Year: 2259)

S2.023 - Points of Departure
S2.024 - Revelations
S2.025 - The Geometry of Shadows
S2.026 - A Distant Star
S2.027 - The Long Dark
S2.028 - A Spider in the Web
S2.029 - Soul Mates
S2.030 - A Race Through Dark Places
S2.031 - The Coming of Shadows
S2.032 - GROPOS
S2.033 - All Alone in the Night
S2.034 - Acts of Sacrifice
S2.035 - Hunter, Prey
S2.036 - There All the Honor Lies
S2.037 - And Now For a Word
S2.038 - In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum
S2.039 - Knives
S2.040 - Confessions and Lamentations
S2.041 - Divided Loyalties
S2.042 - The Long, Twilight Struggle
S2.043 - Comes the Inquisitor
S2.044 - The Fall of Night

Season Three ("Point of No Return") (Story Year: 2260)

S3.045 - Matters of Honor
S3.046 - Convictions
S3.047 - A Day in the Strife
S3.048 - Passing Through Gethsemane
S3.049 - Voices of Authority
S3.050 - Dust to Dust
S3.051 - Exogenesis
S3.052 - Messages from Earth
S3.053 - Point of No Return
S3.054 - Severed Dreams
S3.055 - Ceremonies of Light and Dark
S3.056 - Sic Transit Vir
S3.057 - A Late Delivery from Avalon
S3.058 - Ship of Tears
S3.059 - Interludes and Examinations
S3.060 - War Without End, Part One
S3.061 - War Without End, Part Two

MV.002 - In the Beginning (Story Year: Prologue: 2261. Framing Story: 2278. Main Story: 2240s)

S3.062 - Walkabout
S3.063 - Grey 17 Is Missing
S3.064 - And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place
S3.065 - Shadow Dancing
S3.066 - Z'ha'dum

Season Four ("No Surrender, No Retreat") (Story Year: 2261)

S4.067 - The Hour of the Wolf
S4.068 - Whatever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?
S4.069 - The Summoning
S4.070 - Falling Toward Apotheosis
S4.071 - The Long Night
S4.072 - Into the Fire
S4.073 - Epiphanies
S4.074 - The Illusion of Truth

MV.003 - Thirdspace (Story Year: 2261)

S4.075 - Atonement
S4.076 - Racing Mars
S4.077 - Lines of Communication
S4.078 - Conflicts of Interest
S4.079 - Rumors, Bargains and Lies
S4.080 - Moments of Transition
S4.081 - No Surrender, No Retreat
S4.082 - The Exercise of Vital Powers
S4.083 - The Face of the Enemy
S4.084 - Intersections in Real Time
S4.085 - Between the Darkness and the Light
S4.086 - Endgame
S4.087 - Rising Star
S4.088 - The Deconstruction of Falling Stars

Season Five ("Wheel of Fire") (Story Year: 2262)

S5.089 - No Compromises
S5.090 - The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari
S5.091 - The Paragon of Animals
S5.092 - A View from the Gallery
S5.093 - Learning Curve
S5.094 - Strange Relations
S5.095 - Secrets of the Soul
S5.096 - In the Kingdom of the Blind
S5.097 - A Tragedy of Telepaths
S5.098 - Phoenix Rising
S5.099 - Day of the Dead
S5.100 - The Ragged Edge
S5.101 - The Corps is Mother, The Corps is Father
S5.102 - Meditations on the Abyss
S5.103 - Darkness Ascending
S5.104 - And All My Dreams, Torn Asunder
S5.105 - Movements of Fire and Shadow
S5.106 - The Fall of Centauri Prime
S5.107 - Wheel of Fire
S5.108 - Objects in Motion
S5.109 - Objects at Rest

MV.004 - The River of Souls (Story Year: 2263)
MV.005 - The Legend of the Rangers (Story Year: 2265)
MV.006 - A Call to Arms (Story Year: Late 2266 or early 2267)

S5.110 - Sleeping in Light


Crusade (Story Year: 2267)

CR.001 - War Zone
CR.002 - The Long Road
CR.003 - The Well of Forever
CR.004 - The Path of Sorrows
CR.005 - Patterns of the Soul
CR.006 - Ruling from the Tomb
CR.007 - The Rules of the Game
CR.008 - Appearances and Other Deceits
CR.009 - Racing the Night
CR.010 - The Memory of War
CR.011 - The Needs of Earth
CR.012 - Visitors from Down the Street
CR.013 - Each Night I Dream of Home

Hope this helps!

Josh-da-man

The pilot, "The Gathering," was filmed and shown one year before the first season was produced.

Certain actors didn't return for the regular series.

But, you'll notice that the two people who saw Kosh disappeared from the station.

Hmmm...