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Patman 08-06-03 07:45 AM

I thought that Jee ceremony was almost too much (Robert could care less about Jee and his emotional state, Robert is so transparent in his "concern"). Jee has been portrayed way too favorably for TV consumption at this point in the game.

Other than that, I thought the editing for last night's show was up to snuff. Allison is a ho! She definitely lives in the moment.

Poor Dana...not. She has absolutely no room to complain about her predicament. She made a gamble last week by hanging with the Ex's and is paying dearly for it. She's truly delusional if she thought Robert would save her given the pecking order she was at w/r/t the 3 stooges and their tighter bond from the outset. Dana's was basically late for the party and getting the early boot for that arrival.

Boot 08-06-03 08:06 AM

Dana has got to be the stupidest player to ever be on this show. Sure, Michelle was a stupid player simply because she was too innocent to understand how the game was played, but Dana understands the game but is just too stupid to play it. She more or less paints a target on herself for her former alliance and in the process makes herself expendable to her new alliance and then wonders why nobody cares to keep her in the game. Then, when it's obvious she is on her way out, she scrambles around desparately trying to shame someone into saving her. Why? Why on earth would anyone go out of their way to save her? Yet she seems to think it's perfectly logical. She has absolutely no clue that she made her own bed and is now lying in it.

dek 08-06-03 08:27 AM

Allison and the other original 3 should be getting rid of Jun tonight if they were smart. Jun is the stronger player of the 2 and is a bigger threat i.e. hidden alliance with Jee. Dana on the other hand has already burned all her bridges in the house and will only piss people off more. She's no Evil Doctor and will be gone soon enough.

Boot 08-06-03 08:29 AM

True, but Allison's right in her thinking that to save her own ass, she HAS to get rid of Dana. Anything else puts her in extreme danger. Her choices of nominations were not that smart in terms of what was best for the alliance and for the long-term game, but they were smart in terms of what was best for herself and the immediate future.

Patman 08-06-03 09:01 AM

That type of thinking got Dana in the position she finds herself in this week.

Skorp 08-06-03 06:06 PM


Originally posted by Patman
That type of thinking got Dana in the position she finds herself in this week.
Actually, I believe Dana was thinking more about Justin than about saving her own ass when she put up Ali.

Ali wasn't an immediate threat. If Dana were thinking with her head, rather than her hormones, she would've put up Nate or Dave with Jack, instead.

Borst 08-06-03 08:55 PM

well
Spoiler:
Justin
wins HoH I'm guessing they will put up
Spoiler:
Alison and Nathan

clemente 08-06-03 08:59 PM


Originally posted by Borst
well
Spoiler:
Justin
wins HoH I'm guessing they will put up
Spoiler:
Alison and Nathan

Spoiler:
Do you think Justin will stick to his deal with Allison?

B.A. 08-06-03 09:01 PM

Spoiler:
So I take it we can just put Alison into Dana's place as the next one to leave the Alliance? Looks like Nathan will have to win power of veto to take himself off of the block - I don't know why Justin is so worried about him - I'd be gunning for Jack, Alison or Erica before Nathan.

Patman 08-06-03 09:02 PM

Actually, I think the next 2 nominees for eviction will be:

Spoiler:
Nate and Jack/Erica because he can hold the Allison card for POV in his back pocket, and by not putting her up, he still maintains a line of trust for now.

Skorp 08-07-03 01:49 AM

The show's over, but this spoiler is from the live feeds:

Spoiler:
Justin has already told Robert and Alison that he's putting up Nathan and Jack. And Ali has already started campaigning to evict Jack, talking to Jun about it and trying to convince Justin & Robert that Jack is the bigger threat.

So at least she's not completely stabbing Nate in the back.


In other non-spoilerish live feed news: Lots of dishing of Dana going on by everyone (yeah, even by Justin). And the mood in the house is considerably improved from the last couple of weeks -- much more relaxed, with lots of joking & laughter and the groups mingling freely.

Dana was really so poisonous in the house that her eviction has everyone breathing easier.

shanester 08-07-03 05:52 AM

I`m glad one of the "three stooges" won HOH..

I'd like to see pretty boy Nate and his huge ego kicked out of the house

Patman 08-07-03 07:55 AM

This season has been a very unpredictable roller coaster ride. It's not as fun as previous seasons, but the twists and turns really do toss monkey wrenches into almost everyone's strategy.

saoirse 08-07-03 11:26 AM

Excellent, my favorite is HOH.

Patman 08-07-03 01:27 PM

I can't stand Justin.

dann 08-07-03 01:30 PM

Justin is my favorite to win also.

BTW, Did anyone notice Robert's great effort to hide his happiness for his alliance securing the HOH? ;)

Boot 08-07-03 01:30 PM

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Justin puts up Nate and Allison wins POV and doesn't use it? That would serve Nate right.

Boot 08-07-03 01:31 PM


Originally posted by dann
Justin is my favorite to win also.

BTW, Did anyone notice Robert's great effort to hide his happiness for his alliance securing the HOH? ;)

Yeah, he was really subtle, wasn't he?

movieking 08-07-03 02:37 PM

I am starting to like the stooges...but damn Erika is hot...

taa455 08-07-03 02:44 PM

I've always liked the stooges. If I was in that house, I would definitely be hanging out with them. The others are either too uptight or too egotistical.

taa455 08-07-03 02:53 PM


Originally posted by Boot
Dana has got to be the stupidest player to ever be on this show
Obviously you forgot about Scott.

Just because it didn't work out for Dana doesn't mean she is stupid. She had to take a chance by jumping ship on the original alliance. It was either that or sit around a allow her fate to be decided by a group that already disliked her. It was simply bad luck for Dana that Nathan won the POV and used it to take Ali off the block, AND then Ali won the next HOH. It could've played out a dozen different ways and Dana might still be alive. Dana gambled and lost, which doesn't mean she is stupid.

taa455 08-07-03 02:56 PM


Originally posted by Boot
Wouldn't it be hilarious if Justin puts up Nate and Allison wins POV and doesn't use it? That would serve Nate right.
That would be funny. Nate is such an imbecile for saving Ali. She totally played him and he fell for it.

taa455 08-07-03 03:01 PM


Originally posted by Patman
I thought that Jee ceremony was almost too much (Robert could care less about Jee and his emotional state, Robert is so transparent in his "concern"
I agree the ceremony was a tad over the top. I disagree with your speculation about Robert. There was no evidence that indicated Robert's sympathy was insincere. I think he was probably about as concerned as one could be for someone he has only known for 4 weeks.

Patman 08-07-03 03:14 PM

I find very little that's genuine about Robert. He's playing a good game keeping his 3 stooges alliance going, but he comes across as a guy you don't want watching your back when the chips are down (unless he had a lot to gain from it).

Robert talks a good game, but doesn't back it up with action. I laugh everytime he mentions that Justin needs to move out to LA and bunk with him for a while (Justin's gonna be in for a rude awakening). Robert seems like a fast-talking scammer.

~~ PAL ~~ 08-07-03 03:23 PM

Robert won't last. He's extremely unreliable (or comes across that way), not athletic, no brains, no real talents, just all talks. He will be sacrificed by his alliance at some point in the game, assuming the ex-Men makes it far.


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