4 Ex Couples On Big Brother 4
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Jee should've nominated 2 people from the Elite 8 (now 7). If the Elite stand together, then Michelle will get the boot:
Michelle - Nathan, Allison, Dana, Jun, Dave, Jack
Erika - Robert, Justin
Nathan & Jack have both seemed determined so far to stick to the original alliance; and, if I were one of the 7, I certainly wouldn't want to break with them at this point. (Of course the nominees could change, depending on the Veto.)
And what was up with Jee seeming to make a deal with Dave to nominate Dana instead, only to put up Michelle after all? I was waiting for a Diary Room entry from Dave to address this, but it didn't happen.
Michelle - Nathan, Allison, Dana, Jun, Dave, Jack
Erika - Robert, Justin
Nathan & Jack have both seemed determined so far to stick to the original alliance; and, if I were one of the 7, I certainly wouldn't want to break with them at this point. (Of course the nominees could change, depending on the Veto.)
And what was up with Jee seeming to make a deal with Dave to nominate Dana instead, only to put up Michelle after all? I was waiting for a Diary Room entry from Dave to address this, but it didn't happen.
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I would have preffered to see Dana and Erika or Jun up for eviction
I like Michelle even though she's not too bright
It doesn't appear that any of the ex's know there is an alliance against them..I wonder who will be the first of the original eight to tell them
I like Michelle even though she's not too bright
It doesn't appear that any of the ex's know there is an alliance against them..I wonder who will be the first of the original eight to tell them
#204
Originally posted by Big Bad Ramy
I wanna **** her all badly, though.
I wanna **** her all badly, though.
She is very cute. I think she look slike a young Sarah Michelle Gellar. Without the kick-ass Buffy attitude.
#205
Originally posted by Patman
Well, guess who won POV this week:
Well, guess who won POV this week:
Spoiler:
#206
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No, the golden Veto allows the holder to take themselves off the nomination block (if they have been nomination), as well as the other nominee. The HoH would still retain the power to nominate a 3rd person if the POV is used.
When Big Brother slipped in the Golden Veto towards the end of the game last season, this is why Julie slapped Marcellus for not using it to save himself by taking himself off the nomination block. Marcellus was self-delusional, thinking that he'd win over Amy, and BOOM! He was shown the door.
The older Red Veto power didn't allow for the POV winner to take themselves off the nomination block, but they could take the other nominee off the block.
Now back to commenting on this week's events in terms of strategy:
The nominations (of Michelle and Erika) are all about Robert getting Erika out of the house. That's why only Erika was targetted, and Michelle was used as the pawn. Jee got used by Robert in a bad way (even though Jee really likes Robert for the moment, strategically, it's a bad move). The problem is this:
If no POV is used, here's how the votes would probably go:
Erika gets the boot from:
Robert
Justin
Dana
Michelle gets the boot from:
Jack
Dave
Nathan
The wildcards are:
Allison
Jun
But I think the 2 girls would vote to boot Michelle just because Michelle's got that cute factor going (and Nathan like that, and Allison sees it as another girl competing for Nathan in some way, and Jun needs to stay with the original alliance because she has no shot being with the Ex's).
But if Jun were to switch, and force a tie, then Jee would have the final tie-breaking vote and Erika would be gone.
So, there is a possibility that the POV won't be used, and that Michelle will be sent home anyway, which would accomplish the goal of sending the Ex's out of the house one by one, and this nomination move by Jee and Robert will blow up in their faces by getting their numbers whittled down for sending up one of their own instead of targetting 2 of the original 7.
If POV is used, and Jee puts up another one of the original 7, Michelle will be sent home, just based on the numbers. That is, if Dana isn't nominated because she's the only one that would get the boot from the original 7 (Dana would get booted by Nathan, Allison, Jun, Jack, Erika, Dave), but Jee thinks Dana would be a bigger asset to him in the game, so she'd never be nominated by him anyway.
There's been plenty of gameplay going on according to the livefeed updates. I don't know how these houseguest live under such pressure, especially with the artificially stimulated boost in intensity due to the presences of the Ex's in the house. It used to take maybe 4 weeks to get people to love/hate each other, but now, with so much familiarity inside the house, the pressure got ratcheted up in less than a week or two.
Dana's days are numbered unless she pulls out some HoHs and POVs. Everyone knows that she's the one totally playing both sides now, but the Elite 7 still have numbers on their side, so Dana is a marked woman.
When Big Brother slipped in the Golden Veto towards the end of the game last season, this is why Julie slapped Marcellus for not using it to save himself by taking himself off the nomination block. Marcellus was self-delusional, thinking that he'd win over Amy, and BOOM! He was shown the door.
The older Red Veto power didn't allow for the POV winner to take themselves off the nomination block, but they could take the other nominee off the block.
Now back to commenting on this week's events in terms of strategy:
The nominations (of Michelle and Erika) are all about Robert getting Erika out of the house. That's why only Erika was targetted, and Michelle was used as the pawn. Jee got used by Robert in a bad way (even though Jee really likes Robert for the moment, strategically, it's a bad move). The problem is this:
If no POV is used, here's how the votes would probably go:
Erika gets the boot from:
Robert
Justin
Dana
Michelle gets the boot from:
Jack
Dave
Nathan
The wildcards are:
Allison
Jun
But I think the 2 girls would vote to boot Michelle just because Michelle's got that cute factor going (and Nathan like that, and Allison sees it as another girl competing for Nathan in some way, and Jun needs to stay with the original alliance because she has no shot being with the Ex's).
But if Jun were to switch, and force a tie, then Jee would have the final tie-breaking vote and Erika would be gone.
So, there is a possibility that the POV won't be used, and that Michelle will be sent home anyway, which would accomplish the goal of sending the Ex's out of the house one by one, and this nomination move by Jee and Robert will blow up in their faces by getting their numbers whittled down for sending up one of their own instead of targetting 2 of the original 7.
If POV is used, and Jee puts up another one of the original 7, Michelle will be sent home, just based on the numbers. That is, if Dana isn't nominated because she's the only one that would get the boot from the original 7 (Dana would get booted by Nathan, Allison, Jun, Jack, Erika, Dave), but Jee thinks Dana would be a bigger asset to him in the game, so she'd never be nominated by him anyway.
There's been plenty of gameplay going on according to the livefeed updates. I don't know how these houseguest live under such pressure, especially with the artificially stimulated boost in intensity due to the presences of the Ex's in the house. It used to take maybe 4 weeks to get people to love/hate each other, but now, with so much familiarity inside the house, the pressure got ratcheted up in less than a week or two.
Dana's days are numbered unless she pulls out some HoHs and POVs. Everyone knows that she's the one totally playing both sides now, but the Elite 7 still have numbers on their side, so Dana is a marked woman.
Last edited by Patman; 07-19-03 at 05:18 PM.
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I agree that Dana is definitely screwed if she doesn't do something quick.
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I couldn't sleep last night and I had signed up for the free trial of the live feeds this week. I tuned in and laughed so hard at what was going on. I doubt it will ever be covered on the TV show, but I'll spolier it anyway because it's a bit adult oriented.
Brief description:
Brief description:
Spoiler:
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#209
By the way, I absolutely loved seeing Marcellus on the show this week. I really miss him! I'd love to see him on a show or something "doing his thing". He'd be great on that "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" show or I could see him as some sort of judge on a reality show. He is hilarious.
I absolutely lost it when he commented on Justin: "The Caesar is tired, but..."
I absolutely lost it when he commented on Justin: "The Caesar is tired, but..."
#213
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No, No, No - Michelle can't go!!! How can they possibly want to boot out someone who wore a salad-bikini so well? wtf?
Michelle: "I just wanted to, um, lick the top it."
Michelle: "I just wanted to, um, lick the top it."
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#214
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Originally posted by Groucho
Erika's racist outburst took me by surprise.
Erika's racist outburst took me by surprise.
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Originally posted by Groucho
Erika's racist outburst took me by surprise.
Erika's racist outburst took me by surprise.
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IF Michelle gets voted out tonight it`s all over for the ex's. Bad move by Jee should have put up Dana instead
Ditto what other`s have said about Erika she came across like a complete racist. Those remarks will haunt her in real life 4 ever. CBS probably should have edited them out..
PS I thaught Michelle was a virgin
why is she always walking around half naked??....What a tease
Ditto what other`s have said about Erika she came across like a complete racist. Those remarks will haunt her in real life 4 ever. CBS probably should have edited them out..
PS I thaught Michelle was a virgin
why is she always walking around half naked??....What a tease
#219
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Last night's episode was edited pretty well, and did a decent job covering most of the game-playing in terms of strategic moves/non-moves, and all the quirks/tics of the players, especially Man Troll, who has been universally irritating.
How about Jun and Jee working in cahoots. I wonder how long it'll take for that to surface, and others make the connection. They have been warned against speaking to each other in Korean, and singing in Korean.
What people don't see is how persistent Jee was in telling everyone that he had done enough (by nominating Erika) in an effort not to have to put up another person if POV was used. We're talking hours of saying the same talking points over and over.
I still think it's going to come down to Jun and then Jee because I have this nagging suspicion that Jun will vote out Erika (along with Justin, Robert and Dana), and that'll yield a 4-4 tie and then Jee breaks the tie. So Erika might be gone gone gone.
How about Jun and Jee working in cahoots. I wonder how long it'll take for that to surface, and others make the connection. They have been warned against speaking to each other in Korean, and singing in Korean.
What people don't see is how persistent Jee was in telling everyone that he had done enough (by nominating Erika) in an effort not to have to put up another person if POV was used. We're talking hours of saying the same talking points over and over.
I still think it's going to come down to Jun and then Jee because I have this nagging suspicion that Jun will vote out Erika (along with Justin, Robert and Dana), and that'll yield a 4-4 tie and then Jee breaks the tie. So Erika might be gone gone gone.
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Originally posted by Patman
They have been warned against speaking to each other in Korean, and singing in Korean.
They have been warned against speaking to each other in Korean, and singing in Korean.
#221
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You can whisper all you want, but it has to be in English. BB doesn't want to go out and hire a Korean translator if they don't have to.
Last season, there was a small stink about the sign language being used by Lisa and Danielle at times.
Last season, there was a small stink about the sign language being used by Lisa and Danielle at times.
#223
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And, ladies and gentlemen, this is why we watch Big Brother! That people not only get F'd up, but then have to live in the same house with those who F'd them up until they are shown the door next!
#224
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And I do think that becoming HoH does show the true colors of the novice players much more than the shrewder ones. It's like all their bad qualities get amplified when they become HoH. Jee has been Robert's beyotch through it all.



