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Old 07-10-03 | 07:29 PM
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When did they start letting people under 21 on these shows? Before you always had to be 21.
Old 07-10-03 | 08:35 PM
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This could get interesting if Michelle, who's 19, starts drinking like Amy did last summer. Just doesn't seem fair to have all that booze around tempting her.
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When did they start letting people under 21 on these shows? Before you always had to be 21.
She was "recruited" by the producers because she was one of the Ex's. The Big Brother application specifically states that you have to be 21 to apply.

As for this season so far, can't say I'm loving it. Though the Ex Factor provided some initial dramatics, the live feeds have been pretty damn boring so far. The "sameness" of this cast (of mostly 20-something singles), and the fact that 10 of the houseguests have pre-existing relationships, has altered the usual BB dynamics.

I had hoped that Nathan's nominations would shake up the show, but they're about as uninteresting as they could be. Of course, we have the Power of Veto yet to come, so I guess there's still some hope.
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Yeah, the 3 without ex's are more in a position to lie their way through the entire process without having an ex call them on it.

So, after more thinking about it, I'm not sure the X-Factor edition of Big Brother is going to make the game any better, and could make it more stale.

Where's the African American representation on this season's cast?

Do we have a gay person in the house this time around?

Again, this just seems like a 3 month long version of Blind Date, the Hell Edition!
Old 07-11-03 | 06:37 PM
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I think the Maya Rudolph looking lady is half african american.
Old 07-11-03 | 06:54 PM
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Let's not forget that Big Brother is at its most boring in the first few weeks. It's not until those initial superficial alliances are broken that the show starts really getting good.
Old 07-11-03 | 07:43 PM
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Yeah, the 3 without ex's are more in a position to lie their way through the entire process without having an ex call them on it.

So, after more thinking about it, I'm not sure the X-Factor edition of Big Brother is going to make the game any better, and could make it more stale.

Where's the African American representation on this season's cast?

Do we have a gay person in the house this time around?

Again, this just seems like a 3 month long version of Blind Date, the Hell Edition!
You're exactly right. They blew it and after, IMHO, the best BB yet.
Old 07-11-03 | 08:51 PM
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Let's not forget that Big Brother is at its most boring in the first few weeks.
Sorry, but I don't agree.

The first week of BB2 brought us Nicole's seemingly hopeless (but ultimately successful) fight against the forces of Chilltown to save herself from eviction.

And, in the first week of BB3, Marcellas was in a similar position, only to be saved by Gerry's use of the Veto (which resulted in Laurie, the "decoy", being evicted instead).

I haven't seen anything from this cast (so far) that comes even close to that level of drama.
Old 07-11-03 | 10:09 PM
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What was with the ex's of the 2 nominated hg's getting mad that they were nominated? The 8 were so adamant about the ex's getting nominated and when it happens, they're pissed off. So hilarious.
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It's all an act on the nominated ex's part. What else do you expect them to act: Do a happy dance in front of the nominated Ex?
Old 07-12-03 | 08:47 AM
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Had to laugh at Allison saying that Scott was bi-polar. If anyone in the house has more mood swings than her, I haven't seen it yet. First, she's hysterical when the Ex Factor is revealed, crying about what her current boyfriend is going to think. Then she starts getting cuddly with Nathan. Then, during the Truth or Dare session (as shown on the live feeds), she confesses that she'd sleep with Justin again at least once. Then, she acts all warm & fuzzy towards Justin, while still snuggling with Nathan on the side. Then, she's crying about her boyfriend's reaction again. She's definitely not very emotionally stable.

But Scott is scary. The other night on the feeds, he was laying in the dark by himself in one of the bedrooms, talking into his microphone, saying over & over how much he hated Dana. I have no idea where that came from, but he was obsessively going on & on -- it was almost like he was chanting a mantra. Really, really creepy.
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Sigh...I dunno. After reading the live feeds for a few days, and seeing the 3 hours on CBS, I can't say that I'm at all enthused about this season as much anymore.

I think some of it has to do with the "baggage-enhanced" rancor that the producers inflicted with the eX-Factor this season. The game has fundamentally been changed at its root (the idea that you put a bunch of stranger into a house for the summer, and then let them find the most sociological/psychological way to outmaneuver all the others in the house). Now, almost everyone knows all of the ex's business and vice-versa. Having someone provide the others with "da scoop" or the "411 drop" on you undermines the game in such a way that it becomes a baggage-laden moanfest of epic proportions.

Sure, you get to squeeze some compassion pity footage when a nominated person has their ex say that they didn't want THEIR own ex out so early, or some stupid protective response mode overcomes the more disturbing houseguests like Scott (over Amanda's nomination).

Will part of the the original Elite 8 really swap out ex's for those that they like to create another sub-alliance? At this point, I'm not sure I going to care one way or another.

I doubt any alliance that large can last, not only the personality challenges ("shady" seems to be the key word, though those using are just as "shady" so go figure.), but the HoH and the PoV competitions.

But at this point, I would like to see Jun/Allison/Nathan gone soon from the game. I'm already tired of them, and it's only been a week.
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I don't think this season is going to be as good, but considering how much I liked the 3 previous seasons, it has some pretty tough competition. I'm always for something different, so I like the ex-factor thing as an experiment, but I hope they don't do it again.
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Call me the eternal optimist.

I just remeber that after a few weeks of BB3, I didn't like it as much as BB2, but as it went on it became as compelling.

I'm not ready to write it off yet. It's not a scripted series (to a certain extent) where people's motivations and deceptiveness (or lack of) can be corrected by next weeks show.
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I have no one to root for in this season's cast. I dislike just about everyone one of them. Maybe I'll root for Jack, just to see how long he can last before the young-ish clique boots him out.
Old 07-12-03 | 09:36 PM
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I have no one to root for in this season's cast. I dislike just about everyone one of them. Maybe I'll root for Jack, just to see how long he can last before the young-ish clique boots him out.
I can just come here, read your posts, and not have to watch. My wife whacked me with the tv guide cause I flicked BB off a few times because it was just so awful to watch.

Just like you said, there is NO ONE to root for. No one even particularly likeable. In having to get all of these people's ex's, they really were limited in casting.

Even the people that weren't likeable in the past seasons had sides of them that were compelling.

I'm sure someone will emerge, but there were several people last year alone that were extremely likeable and interesting, that at one time or another, I actually rooted for.

I can't possibly remember all the names right now (another bad sign), but Jun, Jee, Allison, Scott, Dana, and Robert are pretty awful. The FBI guy and Erika are boring. Nathan, the HOH?, is arrogant and not in a good, sweet, flirty way. Michelle is cute but way too young for me and that's just going to lead to the child porn plotline. That's about it. I might like Erika right now, but she's already put a huge target on her head.

And the editing was horrible. How did Erika even get so disliked? It almost seemed out of nowhere that everyone started saying they didn't trust her. Finally, Allison is going to make Amy seem like a walk in the park.
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Well, this'll probably be all over the news by the time you see this, but I'll spoiler it anyway.

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Scott flipped out and has been evicted from the house!

Earlier tonight, he was talking with Amanda (his ex) in the backyard about how tormented he was about their relationship. Then he went inside and started throwing the dining room chairs around. When called to the Diary Room, he shouted that he wasn't f'ng going and they'd have to come and get him. Though he did go into the DR, when he emerged he apologized to all the houseguests, saying he was under so much stress seeing Amanda there -- and that he hadn't been able to move on with his life after their breakup because he has HPV (genital warts). This caused most of the girls to flip out (Drama Queen Allison, in tears, went to scrub the toilet). Anyway, after more drama, Scott again went to the Diary Room -- and never emerged. He is gone.
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Yowie! That's some crazy stuff!
Old 07-13-03 | 05:45 AM
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Old 07-13-03 | 06:18 AM
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Oh, somebody HAS TO post some screen captures of this latest development..... PLEASE!
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Icouldn't stand that guy anyway. Thank God he is gone. Him and his genital warts...
Old 07-13-03 | 06:32 AM
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Here is an article about the latest happening:

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Tantrum evicts 'Big Brother' contestant

By JOHN POWELL -- Jam! Showbiz

CBS wanted drama and now they've got it. Another season of 'Big Brother' and another contestant has been shown the door for violent behavior. Scott Weintraub, the 33-year-old waiter from Chicago, was ejected from the "Big Brother 4" game for throwing a temper tantrum in the house Saturday night. The outburst caused some of the players to fear for their own personal safety in the "Big Brother" house.


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Unhappy about being in the game with his ex-girlfriend, Weintraub, exploded and threw chairs across the kitchen sending his fellow HouseGuests scurrying to separate parts of the house. The producers called Weintraub to the Diary Room, a separate confessional room, to speak to him but he initially refused.

"These people don't own me. Scott to the Diary Room? I am not going to the Diary Room," he responded. In talking with fellow HouseGuest David Lane, Weintraub said he felt like the producers were taking advantage of him.


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Weintraub's ex-girlfriend in the house, Amanda Craig, explained his behavior to some of the other HouseGuests when he finally obeyed the producers instructions and went into the Diary Room to speak to them.

"He is a great guy. He is very spoiled and he doesn't handle situations in a mature way. He blames everyone else for his problems. I met him as a waiter and I loved him for it. He always wants things handed to him," she said.

Together in the bathroom, some of the female HouseGuests expressed fear over having Weintraub remain in the game. HouseGuest Jun Song hoped that the producers locked Weintraub in the Diary Room and wouldn't let him back into the house.


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HouseGuest Dana Varela claimed to have spoken to the producers in the Diary Room and they promised that they were going to handle the situation and put a high priority on everyone's safety.

"They will put us on lockdown and escort him out of the house," Varela predicted.


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Upon exiting the Diary Room, Weintraub held a meeting and apologized to everyone for his actions and admitted that he has Human Papillomavirus Virus, otherwise known as genital warts. According to him, the situation has devastated his life.

"The reason I was hit by an overload is basically because I have been carrying around this load for like a year. I have isolated myself for the rest of the world. I have HPV. I don't have any now. I haven't had any for a year," said Weintraub. "Seeing Amanda here has brought me back to the time we broke up. She has been able to go on with her life and I haven't. Part of me loves her being here, part of me doesn't."

"In no way do I want to leave here or this game. I am truly very sorry. I am just sorry. I want to let everyone to know that," said Weintraub. Some HouseGuests questioned Weintraub's decision to remain in the house and others didn't think his apology was sincere since he has lost his temper before.

Weintraub was called into the Diary Room again and apparently sent home by the producers after they spoke to the other players about their safety concerns.

Before the "Big Brother 4" series even began, the producers disqualified potential player Brandon Showalter, the 28-year-old computer engineer from Newport Beach, Calif, for breaking the rules.

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Oh, somebody HAS TO post some screen captures of this latest development..... PLEASE!
The live feeds missed the actual tantrum, but you can see screencaps of the aftermath here.

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Old 07-13-03 | 10:37 AM
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I don't know if I can wait until Tuesday to see what this is about. I've very tempted to read the spoilers/click the link. Oooh oooh oooh...

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