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Old 04-13-03 | 10:32 AM
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Last night's show was pretty good. Penis enlargements...one guy tested a pump, one used herbal pills, and another exercised his johnson. A doctor took before and after measurements. Guess what the results were.

The funniest part was where these 3 women were in a session for hypnosis for breast enlargements. Guess what the results were.
Old 04-13-03 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
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If you're going to see what lies beyond the realms of death, you'd actually have to die first.
If there is nothing after death (which I believe), that won't work either.
Old 04-13-03 | 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
I don't get Showtime.

How did they debunk Ouija boards? (I've heard of this being done by blindfolding the users.)
Yes, they blindfolded some people and turned the board around. They were pushing the planchette to where they thought the answers they wanted were.
I have read about the centrifuge experiments to simulate NDEs, but from what I've heard, it isn't exactly conclusive or able to completely replicate the effect.
So what would be "conclusive" for this? The centrifuge shows that people can have very similar, if not identical, experiences without coming so close to death. Pretty convincing to me if not "conclusive." Anyway, the burden of proof is on those who make the claim.

Now how would those who make the claims prove their side? It is easy to test claims of people who claim they can leave their physical bodies and that their "astral bodies" can go elsewhere and witness what's happening. Just make sure they can't cheat, write something on a piece of paper, leave it face up on a table in an adjoining room and ask them to float on over and tell you what it says. Needless to say, all such experiments have failed to achieve results proving their claims.

It's a little difficult to set up such an experiment in the case of someone near death. Nevertheless, if there were a steady stream of people with NDEs who started telling us all about things they saw in the physical world (such as in the OR) that they should not have known (such as things hidden from their perceptions as these people are on the operating table), it would at least provide some evidence. Now we still have to be careful about this and be reasonably certain that they couldn't have known such things from any other source. Because that is almost impossible to rule out as the conditions are not controlled, there would have to be a lot of such cases to even begin to provide evidence. I have never heard of anything like this.

And all the light and tunnel stuff obviously can't prove anything except that these people say they experienced them.
Old 04-14-03 | 06:18 AM
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Just when you think they can't dig up stranger weirdos than the organic food people, the Salem Ouija board group is rolled out---Yikes.
Old 04-14-03 | 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Chew
Just when you think they can't dig up stranger weirdos than the organic food people, the Salem Ouija board group is rolled out---Yikes.

I have to believe that the Salem folks know that Ouija boards are bogus. They are making money off it after all. $20 a board?

The Organic food people are like the food they eat - nuts.
Old 04-14-03 | 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Chew
Just when you think they can't dig up stranger weirdos than the organic food people, the Salem Ouija board group is rolled out---Yikes.
The organic anti-genetic engineering people cause far more harm though.

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