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dknight04 04-09-03 09:58 AM

I started to get hooked on the show since its 2nd season. I will be angry if the WB doesn't pick this show up. At least for one last season. Why they don't focus on 7th Heaven. When the youngest kids are planning marraige or moving out, it's time for finale or spin-off options.

Doughboy 04-09-03 10:26 AM


Just seems that the general tone of the information coming out seems more upbeat, and ME seems to be making plans for a fifth year.
I hope you're right. My biggest fear is that the season ends with a cliffhanger(which BTW is the current rumor) only to have the show get dropped by the WB and we never get to find out how it ends.

Damn, now I'm finally understanding the frustration of Farscape fans. Four great seasons. The last one ends with a cliffhanger. And despite a loyal, devoted fanbase, Sci-Fi drops the show.

Dr. DVD 04-09-03 11:55 AM


Originally posted by Doughboy
I hope you're right. My biggest fear is that the season ends with a cliffhanger(which BTW is the current rumor) only to have the show get dropped by the WB and we never get to find out how it ends.

Damn, now I'm finally understanding the frustration of Farscape fans. Four great seasons. The last one ends with a cliffhanger. And despite a loyal, devoted fanbase, Sci-Fi drops the show.

That had to suck. IMO, if you are going to can a series, at least do something to give closure for the fanbase, no matter how lame the show proves. (Birds of Prey, Dark Angel) It wouldn't hurt to shoot a two hour tv-movie or a little mini-series would it? Anything to avoid having to rely on fan fiction for resolution!

Chew 04-09-03 12:02 PM


Originally posted by Dr. DVD
That had to suck. IMO, if you are going to can a series, at least do something to give closure for the fanbase, no matter how lame the show proves. (Birds of Prey, Dark Angel) It wouldn't hurt to shoot a two hour tv-movie or a little mini-series would it? Anything to avoid having to rely on fan fiction for resolution!
Unfortunately for us Farscape fans, the show got canned after they filmed the cliffhanger and were already on "summer" break.

The chances of a two-hour movie to rap up Farscape are about as likely as das and Bonnie Hammer getting hitched.

OK, maybe a little more likely than that........

das Monkey 04-09-03 12:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Dr. DVD •<HR SIZE=1>That had to suck.<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes ... yes it does. Compounded by fact that they intentionally developed a two season arc since Sci-Fi guaranteed both the producers and fans two more seasons and proclaimed it their signature show (what with it being the highest rated series the channel had ever seen). The head of programming deemed it her favorite show and praised its incredible demographic value (48% female). Yes ... and people have the audacity to claim we're not justified in our hatred of that ****-hole operation that claims to be a Sci-Fi channel.

Uh oh ... cranky level rising ... must ... leave ... thread ...

das

crankyman 04-09-03 01:10 PM

someone call me?

Chew 04-09-03 01:43 PM

And yet another daily Angel update:


What's the status of ``Angel''? They keep moving around its day and time.

While the WB has announced the new season for a batch of its shows, ``Angel'' (now 9 p.m. Wednesday, Ch. 20) wasn't in the group. While that's not a good sign, the holdup involves contract negotiations with key cast members, according to a WB insider. Plus there may be some issues involving whether
Spoiler:
characters like Willow and Spike move from ``Buffy'' to ``Angel'' when the Slayer's run comes to an end.
And I would suspect that, should the WB drop ``Angel,'' UPN would be around to pick it up -- just as it did with ``Buffy.''
Link

The bolded section is something I had not heard before.

edytwinky 04-09-03 01:56 PM

They'll pick up Reba, but not Angel?

WiccanPagan 04-09-03 03:28 PM


Originally posted by edytwinky
They'll pick up Reba, but not Angel?
reba and sabrina the teenage witch. c'mon now.

das Monkey 04-09-03 04:57 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth WiccanPagan •<HR SIZE=1>reba and sabrina the teenage witch. c'mon now. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's be honest: <I>Sabrina the Middle-Aged Witch</I>

das

goofee girl 04-09-03 05:49 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth WiccanPagan •<HR SIZE=1>reba and sabrina the teenage witch. c'mon now. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let's be honest: <I>Sabrina the Middle-Aged Witch</I>

das

Darn! Beat me to it! I don't think they even call it "Teenage Witch" anymore. Isn't it now only "Sabrina"?

Dr. DVD 04-09-03 06:47 PM

If Angel gets cancelled due to egos, then that would truly suck! The last thing you need to do when your program is struggling is start bickering for more money.

Chew 04-10-03 01:04 PM

Last nights overnight ratings: 3.4/5

Nearly a full point over Sunday's Black Sash. If the two shows are truly going head-to-head in the race to be renewed, the scale continues to tip for Angel.

SeanValen 04-10-03 09:27 PM

Come on Angel, Come on Angel, I am preying hard.

clemente 04-10-03 09:32 PM

I want Angel to be renewed, but the stuff Tim Minear was saying about the "reinvention" of the show just flat out scared me. Yes, the show would be called Angel, but the soul of the show would could be ditched in the effort to make it "hipper" and attract a bigger audience.

I happen to like the hotel.

SeanValen 04-10-03 09:39 PM


Originally posted by clemente
I want Angel to be renewed, but the stuff Tim Minear was saying about the "reinvention" of the show just flat out scared me. Yes, the show would be called Angel, but the soul of the show would could be ditched in the effort to make it "hipper" and attract a bigger audience.

I happen to like the hotel.

I would rather risk that, then risk having a cliffhanger that never was solved, or consider 5th season a bonus season, but I'm optimistic the show will be great.

I think Angel has changed alot, season one, especially the first 9 episodes with Doyal/Angel/Cordy was like a separate thing, and you had fans of that, and they were more iffy when we had the gang of wesly, gunn, fred, with cordy and angel, so yes it has evolved already, but it was handled greatly, with the angel themes still at the core, but also consider it as a ploy to make season 5 big, then perhaps a darker and very angel like 6th season, once the audience confirms a 5th season, then a likely last 6th season gets greenlight, and the producers can write how they want to the end the show properly, but if it means some sacifice in season 5 to change things, so be it, it may turn out better, give it a chance man!!!

Dr. DVD 04-10-03 10:18 PM

I mentioned in a letter to the WB (like they would actually read it) that they could gain quite a bit from keeping Angel around for another year or two.

One: its actors are showing some fine range (with the exception of Charisma and whoever plays Conner).

Two: with Buffy ending, they stand to gain some spillover from the fans of that show who watched it exclusively but are not yet ready to say goodbye to the Buffyverse. In fact, that might be a reason they want to make season five a square one sort of deal.

SeanValen 04-11-03 04:44 AM


Originally posted by Dr. DVD
I mentioned in a letter to the WB (like they would actually read it) that they could gain quite a bit from keeping Angel around for another year or two.

One: its actors are showing some fine range (with the exception of Charisma and whoever plays Conner).

Two: with Buffy ending, they stand to gain some spillover from the fans of that show who watched it exclusively but are not yet ready to say goodbye to the Buffyverse. In fact, that might be a reason they want to make season five a square one sort of deal.

:up:

I remember David Boreanze testing for the role of Superman some months back, and Superman people at WB, said we believe the Angel show is coming to a end this year, so it would provide David with something new after, but then after they said, word has it, his show would be coming back, thus ruling him out as a contender......



I also hope the strong dvd sales of Angel season one in US, impresses fox, as dvd sales off tv programmes, count for 10% of all dvd sales, so whatever contract stuff WB has to talk to Fox about, I hope Fox go with it, as they got a great selling dvd programme on their hands as well.

jrsl76 04-14-03 05:38 PM

Angel - reason for smaller returns
 
I would love for Angel to stick around if the heart of the show isn't compromised.
Shows change, as Alias did this season, but no one respects pandering to a mass audience. I would love for as many people as possible to enjoy this show, but to completely disregard loyal viewers will adversely affect the network.
As a reply to one of the earlier posts where it mentioned people always blaming failing shows on bad scheduling and this completely being a copout, I completely disagree. I watched Angel from season 1 to 3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to watch this season's episodes. The reason - the WB's crappy schedule juggling. Moving the time slot 4 times in 4 years causes core audience members to eventually quit watching. In my case, as soon as they moved Angel to Sunday, they lost me. By the time they moved it to Wednesday, I had missed out on so much due to their scheduling foupas, that there was no point in tuning in. I now have more shows that I religiously watch than I used to: Buffy, Alias, 24 and the Sopranos. Angel was part of my must watch list and the WB killed that. I've never liked Angel quite as much as Buffy (my favorite show, fyi), but over its run, it has really created its own identity as a quirky, interesting and fun show. Hopefully, WB will leave the show on Wednesday and I will start watching again next season. Thanks for listening to my rant.


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