***Official Academy Awards discussion***, Part 2
 

Have at it.

I'm sure that this has already been mentioned in the other thread and I know I'm probably late posting this but I just wanted to say that it was pretty damn smooth what Adrian Brody pulled off today in his acceptance speech.

- He got a nice, long kiss from Halle Berry which she went along with very graciously
- His speech went long
- And he got the conductor to stop playing music after they had started to cut him off

Oh, and he's a really talented actor. :thumbsup:

Yeah, there seems to be universal agreement on the following things:

Brody can act!
Brody gave a great speech.
Brody's a mac!

As for Halle going along graciously, she looked very distressed after she walked to the side of the stage.

das

Chicago and Nicole, god i'm pissed !

Gangs won nuttin !

Wonder what we can look forward to seeing Brody in in the future? He seems like a legitmately good actor who will benefit greatly from this award as he is so young.

I am glad the academy acted like they had a pair by giving an Oscar to Polanski. Sadly, I doubt this will boost his career like it will Brody's :(, but, when you do what he did, I guess you reap what you sow.

Actually Denzel went to kiss her on the cheek and did so, then she told him "It's all right" and kissed him right on the lips. The ladies love Denzel.

The Academy seems to always ebb and flow.

Last year it felt like it was just buckling to pressure from special interest groups. This year it seemed like they were intentionall thumbing their nose at the "easy" pics: Michael Moore, Roman Polanski, eminem. These aren't the most PC choices ... although they all highly deserve it.

das

I apologize if I'm repeating something from the first thread, but I'm not going to read all 941 posts.

Peter O'Toole showe genuine class in accepting his award, unlike that fat windbag. Even if I agreed with Moore's opinions, it was the wrong place, the wrong time, and the absolute wrong manner to go about it. I was so happy they booed that earthpig off the stage. I used to watch some of his earlier shows, they were somewhat interesting until I realized that he normally took an unpopular opinion just for the sake of being opposite. He lost me forever when he asserted that O.J. was framed.

Let me get this straight, The Pianist wins Best Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay, & Best Director, yet loses Best Picture? Weird.

I enjoyed seeing the lineup of old Oscar winners, although Jack Palance looked like he just clawed his way out of a sarcophagus.

Steve Martin - :thumbsup: - Always funny!

http://charliegoose.homestead.com/files/goose.jpg Honk!

I agree, she was NOT happy. That was a very disturbing thing he did. I pray they knew each other. But he more than made up for that with his gracious acceptance speech. I loved it too when he told the orchestra to "cut it out!". Nice! A very moving speech. Didn't think he had a chance. But good for him. He did an amazing job in that film!!!

he could follow in the footsteps of cuba gooding jr.

so what's the record for most noms without a statuette? I think GONY must be in the running for that, having gone 0/10 !!!!

First of all - I cannot believe I just read through 38 pages of the original thread. That has to be a record thread length.

:up::up: to Steve Martin

:up: to Adrian Brody - if DDL wasn't going to win, I am glad AB was able to win. Very good speech - and I am glad he pissed off Halle Berry (her reaction was great).

:up: to Nicole Kidman - she is so cute - I really didn't care who won this as long as Renee didn't win it (Renee looked so much better when she had a little more weight on).

:up: to Roman Polanski - I was happy to see that Scorsese did not win for GONY. It would have been an undeserving Oscar, imo, and everyone already bitches how there are far too many of those floating around. I am impressed that they gave the award to Polanski, I just didn't think they would. Should have known when Harrison walked out onstage - just like they gave it away w/ Connery and Catherine.

:up: to Peter O'Toole - he showed the younger crowd what being classy was all about. He was very well-spoken and eloquent. I can't believe he never won a damn Oscar - unbelievable.

:up: to Susan Sarandon - for limiting herself to a nice, little "peace" sign. Very classy of her to not go off on a political tangent like the man who lives in "non-fiction" world.

I can't believe Eminem won either. It was funny because my mom was pissed that he won - her reasoning was that nobody had heard his song before and my brother and I just laughed at her and had to tell that more people have probably heard "Lose Yourself" than all of the other songs combined. I was impressed that the Academy went out on a limb and didn't go w/ a "safe" pick (i.e. the other four songs).

Seeing Karl Malden and Jack Palance on stage was depressing as hell. Malden looked awful, must have had a terrible stroke. Palance looked like he was fit for a casket, but it was still good to see him. Of course, I loved seeing Hayley Mills, considering I grew up watching everything she seemed to make. I was also happy to see Red Buttons is still alive - what a pleasant surprise.

Watching this show tonight made me realize I did not see a lot of these movies yet - I am going to have to dig through my local listings and see which ones are still playing. I don't care how much it won - I still dread seeing Chicago (sorry, I can't help it), but I will take the wife because she wants to go. Lord knows I drag her to stuff she doesn't want to see all time, I can give in to her tastes once in a while, too.

didn't peter o'toole say in his speech that he had been nominated 7 times and had never won?

11...for The Color Purple and The Turning Point.

I was in tears at seeing Olivia de Haviland. I had no idea that she was still alive, and I thought she looked absolutely beautiful.

"Gone With the Wind" and "The Heiress" are two of my all-time favorite movies. She is one classy lady.

Why isn't "The Heiress" on DVD yet?

so static, can you answer shaun3000's question from the part 1 thread? what thread sets the record for length???

Yes, do answer my question. 'Tis why I asked in the first place, ya know. ;)

um... they had no clue who had won when they set up Harrison Ford to announce Best Director. just as they had no clue that CZ-J had won when they set Sean Connery up to announce Best Supporting Actress. ;)

i did not read the first thread... so my comments are ignorant of what was talked about before.

first thoughts:

Steve Martin :up::up: i think he is the best host of my lifetime. his first and second times were both well done!

Adrien Brody :up::up: i was very surprised, and incredibly happy, when he won. outside of his kissing Halle Berry, he gave an incredible speech.

Michael Moore :down::down: i like his politics, but he certainly handled them way wrong. there are infinitely better ways to communicate a message than that diatribe... blech. way to muddle a message, Mr. Moore. p.s. it is okay to shave every now and then. i know it's your look, but please...

Roman Polanski - not really an up or down on this one. i loved the movie. but i'm not about to be hypocritical and say that he deserves forgiveness while simultaneously condemning those catholic priests who are guilty of the same crime. it was great direction, a great movie. if there wasn't such a bad backstory behind the director, i would be liking this a whole lot more. a surprise, as well.

Peter O'Toole :up::up: it still surprises me the number of people that the Academy has overlooked over the years. i'm glad he was awarded this one. he sounded slightly drunk during portions of his speech. but it was an excellent speech, nonetheless. now, my question is, has anybody ever gotten the Honorary Academy Award and one a regular one later? i doubt O'Toole will pull it off, but it is something to think about. after all, he did turn this honorary down at first, saying that he was still "in the game"..

<b>Charlie Goose</b>, it's simple how the Pianist can win those other awards and not Best Picture: the entire Academy votes on Best Picture, while only the members in the particular category's interest vote for Best "X". for instance, only the directors in the Academy voted for Best Director. etc etc...

possible error: they mentioned that it was Pedro Almodovar's first Academy Award. ummmm... didn't he win a few years ago for Best Foreign Film? just a thought...

once again, i did not read the original thread, so i apologize if any of this was already covered.
-di doctor-

You're right. He did. But maybe it has something to do with how they credit the award since it was for a movie and not for a screenplay that he was solely responsible for.

Yes, Steven Spielberg, twice after getting an honorary.
I think that goes for the nominations but not for the awards.

no, there was a bigger one done by randyc. it blew up the server

Don't know if this was said yet, and I shall not peruse 40 gazillion posts to find it but Moore gave almost the same speech word for word at the IFC awards(re-runnin on Bravo now) and I can't be sure but I think he may have got some cheers for it, or at least dumbfounded silence. Some of the same crowd was there but obviously less people and less formal, ....

so I guess what I am trying to say is when you can't feel you're cold.

Let me just add to the chorus about Moore's Speech: I'm one of his biggest fans, I happen to think BfC is one of the most important films we've seen in years, and I agree wholeheartedly with just about everything he said. However, it was neither the time nor the place, and I think Adrian Brody showed what eloquence really is. Moore could have said a thousand different things....but he chose to act like an ass.....it's too bad, because it just makes it all the more easier for those who disagree with him to dismiss him. He did himself a disservice tonight, and that's a shame.

I liked most of the show (except the bad jokes and overlong performances). Yeah it was great to see Olivia De Havilland, Patricia Neal, Jack Palance et al.

I'm probably in the minority in this one, but I thought Moore's outrage was almost necessary. There's no point in trying to ignore the real world and assuage the sponsors. If people don't like him for it, thats his problem. He said he was anti-war and anti-Bush, not anti-America or against the American soldiers.

Thats what I said when I saw this on TCM recently - what a great film, what a great role!

Its too bad Joan Fontaine didn't join her onstage.

I would love to see steve martin host the oscars next year.

About Halle...
 

I watched to see what her reaction would be when they left the stage, and she put her left arm around his waist, and patted him very affectionately on the chest with her right hand. Hardly the gestures of a woman who is pissed, at least IMHO.

I think she took it in stride. If anybody on Earth knows what it's like to lose it while accepting an Oscar, it's Halle Berry.

maybe i misheard it, but i swear that they said that it was like i said during the credits of the broadcast... ?! anybody else know? anybody TiVO or tape it that can go back and check?

<b>MrN</b>, i don't like how Moore conveyed the message he wished to convey. i am certainly anti-Bush and pro-Troops.. it's just a matter of whether the method was moore harmful to the message, or not.. in my opinion, Moore's chest-thumping, sabre-rattling, in-your-face style works in his documentaries.. but the method in which he delivered his speech last night will adversely affect the people he is trying to get agree with him. they will be moore likely to go against him because of the poor form he showed in his delivery. blech. way to turn people off.

to add to my earlier post:
:up::up: for Eminem winning Best Original Song. way to shake up the system yet again, Marshall. i'm not the biggest Eminem fan, but i'm happy that he won. it was a good song and opens doors for Hip Hop as legitimate film music.. (not that it wasn't for us casual viewers, but that in the eyes of the industry, it will be...)

-di doctor-

Re: About Halle...
 

Come to think of it, since you pointed it out, she did walk off stage w/ as if she had gotten over it. She was indeed the good sport. It just looked to me right after the kiss that she looked surprised, yet pissed at the same time.

:up: to Steve Martin doing the show next year. I wouldn't mind if Billy Crystal did it again. I would actually love if Letterman got another chance, but I don't think he would go anywhere near it w/ a ten foot pole. Since she recently guest-hosted for Letterman last week, I think Bonnie Hunt would kick-ass at the Oscars - she's pretty, intelligent and funny as hell. As long as Whoopi isn't the host, I will probably be happy.

Re: About Halle...
 

Exactly. I don't know which show all you guys who are claiming that Berry looked pissed were watching. I think she did the little "disgusted wipe" move after Brody made the "didn't expect that in your gift basket" comment, as a way of giving him some backtalk without saying a word. She was practically riding him piggyback on the walk out, pretty obvious she didn't mind his dip 'n kiss.

I think Halle Berry was shocked after the kiss, and didn't know how she was supposed to act. Also, when she was wiping her lip, I took it that her lip hurt, not that she was disgusted.

Yes, Paul Newman. He won an Honorary Oscar in 1985, and won the Best Actor Oscar in 1986 for "The Color of Money."

Re: About Halle...
 

I noticed that too. I think at first she was flustered (and probably concerned what her husband would think). But the way she walked off with him, I was like "He must be a great kisser!"

I think most gals daydream of being swept off our feet and kissed like that. :)

I'm not surprised that Michael Moore got a highly-mixed reaction from the audience in the Kodak Theatre.

Mind you, that is his normal modus operandi, though. -rolleyes-

The Academy Awards were on?

I guess you havn't seen many Asian Kung-Fu flicks that were re-scored for the US. ;)

Few thoughts on the Oscars show:

Peter O'Toole was pure class. What a gentleman.

Tatum O'Neal looked great.

Jennifer Garner could kick my booty. And I'd like it.

Halle Berry played along great on 'the kiss.' The little corner-of-the-mouth-wipe was cute.

Re: Re: About Halle...
 

I seriously doubt she cared what her husband thought since he has cheated on her numerous times and is being treated for a sex addiction not unlike Michael Douglas a few years ago.

I had never seen or heard of Michael Moore before last night and I hope I never ever see or hear from him again. My only thoughts at the time were that some idiot has just gone and committed career suicide. He never even bothered to thank the people who hired him and worked with him. Will he ever get another job in the industry or is he big enough (lol) to be above all that?

I don't like Barbara "BS" Streisand at all but at least I can give her credit for showing a little dignity and restraint in her comments.