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Old 03-24-03 | 12:04 PM
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Anyone know where to download footage of the speeches? Particularly the Halle Berry/Adrien Brody moment?
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Eminem probably also didn't want to perform the "cleaned up" version of "Lose Yourself" at the Kodak Theater.
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The way I heard it, he made a deal with the DA to get his sentence to time served but the judge threw it out.
I saw the victim and her lawyer on Larry King a few weeks ago; the lawyer said the prosecutor and Polanski had a plea bargain for a guilty plea and a sentence of time served (he'd apparently been in jail at some point for some relatively short time awaiting trial), such plea bargain having been agreed to by the prosecutor at the request of the victim and her family. The involved judge indicated he would approve the arrangement, but then called the lawyers into chambers the following morning and stated he'd changed his mind because of unfavorable media coverage regarding his previously stated approval. Polanski then fled the country. On Larry King, the victim's attorney repeatedly and vehemently bashed the judge's conduct in the case. Sorry if this is off-topic (?), but hope it helps clear up confusion about what happened. No matter what happened with the plea bargain, though, Polanksi still committed a nasty sleazy crime and should have to face a court for that before anyone talks about letting him live or work in the U.S. again.
Old 03-24-03 | 12:26 PM
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I think Halle Berry was shocked after the kiss, and didn't know how she was supposed to act. Also, when she was wiping her lip, I took it that her lip [i]hurt[i/], not that she was disgusted.
I took it that she was more worried about her makup. A kiss like that can really smear lipstick and I am sure she didn't want smeared makup all over her face in front of a billion people.
Old 03-24-03 | 12:47 PM
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I took it that she was more worried about her makup. A kiss like that can really smear lipstick and I am sure she didn't want smeared makup all over her face in front of a billion people.
That is what I thought. She seems like the self-conscious type.
Old 03-24-03 | 01:39 PM
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Thoughts running through the minds of Ed Harris and Julianne Moore (both nominated four times and never winning) as they watched Peter O'Toole accept his Honorary Oscar after losing 7 acting nominations in his career and never winning:

"Egad! That's going to be me!"
Old 03-24-03 | 02:14 PM
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Old 03-24-03 | 02:19 PM
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Here is a brilliant article on last night's Oscars:

http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feat...003/index.html

enjoy...
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Just heard on Headline News that this will be the lowest rated Oscars in history.
Old 03-24-03 | 03:11 PM
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Off topic a tad, but who hosted the Awards last year?
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Off topic a tad, but who hosted the Awards last year?
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Old 03-24-03 | 03:16 PM
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• Quoth slop101 •<HR SIZE=1>Here is a brilliant article on last night's Oscars:

http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feat...003/index.html

enjoy...
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Come on, man ... post it ... you know you want to.

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Old 03-24-03 | 03:34 PM
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Who sucked ass so don't bring it up again
Old 03-24-03 | 04:08 PM
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Jennifer Garner could Lick my booty. And I'd like it.
Old 03-24-03 | 04:25 PM
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Come on, man ... post it ... you know you want to.

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Done.


March 24, 2003 | I once heard about a stripper in San Francisco who worked in one of those Talk-to-a-Naked-Girl-in-a-Box things. She would sit on a chair, spread her legs, and conceal her face with a large hardback copy of "Ulysses." Who knew if she was actually reading it? It didn't matter. I'm not really showing you my crotch, I'm reading the world's most difficult and serious literature.

Wow, her customers thought. She looks smart.


Hollywood looked smart last night with its book-and-crotch act, and the book was Suze Orman's "9 Steps to Opinionated Speaking Without Alienating the Big Money."

What a conundrum. Hollywood vocally opposes the war, but the war is real popular in all those icky non-coastal parts of the country full of fat people who buy lotsa movie tickets, guns and bacon. Whaddaya do? Well, you take back that hot-pink, Galliano gownless evening-strap and don a serious wartime pantsuit. Actors: Act serious and respectful. Directors: Act thoughtful and concerned. And everybody: Act like the Oscars aren't really happening -- the movie industry isn't really masturbating for itself in the mirror again, for a paying audience, because there's a war on and that wouldn't really be proper.


Welcome to the Humble, Self-Effacing Oscars! And what better person to deride the landed gentry of the industry from the soft pink insides than wacky old Steve Martin. All the sacred cows, gently nudged. Oh, naughty Steve. Teasing Tom Cruise for being rich. Nicholson referred to as gay, in jest. Mickey Mouse called a "black actor." Oh, ho ho ho. Hey, for the Oscars, and somebody of Steve's age, that stuff is downright "edgy," and chuckles did abound. Steve Martin was pretty funny, and some of the movies this year were pretty good. But nobody was able to justify the existence of the Oscars this year. Oscar shot his self-rationalizing power-wad defending himself after 9/11. Tom Cruise and his napalm-eyed Rent-a-Passion was not around to hypnotize us into submission this year.

There were no more black people to cry tears of overdue praise for. Everybody knew the night was doomed, and they all just wanted to put their pants back on, take their tips and shut the curtain.

But the show must go on, because it was already sponsored by JC Penney and other corporations.

At least JC Penney got all dressed up for the occasion, with its new, Sheryl Crow-esque "I Am Woman, See Me Wear Tiny Dresses" campaign. And the Victoria's Secret ad featured a Bob Dylan number, bringing soulful dignity and depth of thought to bra-and-panty sets. I'm beginning to see a trend brewing with this James Joyce beaver-shot thing. Like when Jennifer Garner's teleprompter script had her referencing Benjamin Disraeli. On the flipside, there was Led Zeppelin shilling for Cadillac, which is sort of like putting the cover from a copy of Hustler over the text of Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People."

There were a lot of security precautions this year, such as the really, really loud and insistent "Get the ***** Off the Stage" music, and the wondrous disappearing microphone. Third man on the sound-editing totem pole? "I love you, Deborah!" was the best you could hope for, as the trumpets renounced your welcome and the mike sank into Mordor.

On a happy note, the Academy seemed to smell that everyone in the world expected the wholly expectable, and actually gave out some shockers to some deserving and unlikely candidates. Example number one: Best supporting actor Chris Cooper, who is whompingly amazing. I couldn't believe he's the same actor who played the gay Nazi dad in "American Beauty"; what stealth. What alchemical shape-shifting.

Example two: Michael Moore. I thought he was less likely to get an Oscar this year than O.J. Simpson was. Everybody knew he was going to stink up the room if he won, and, sure enough, he displayed his usual talent for getting kicked out of buildings. It's our night, fat man, said the Academy, and we're not about to be whined at by a guy with cole slaw on his pants. If Moore had been only slightly more graceful and less abrasive, he could have said anything he wanted to; he had the support. But he's just not a pet you can bring in the house. He craves disgrace, he has no self-control. Last night, it wasn't what he was saying that was the problem, but the waddling, honking and gland-spraying with which he said it.

(By the same token, I was surprised to see Susan Sarandon onstage. She looked great, and they didn't even make her wear a rubber ball in her mouth. She's such a lefty I'm surprised both of her eyes haven't traveled over to one side of her head, like a halibut.)

Example three: Adrien Brody, who succeeded beautifully and effortlessly at rallying the anti-Bush sentiment Michael Moore was trying so sweatily to shove home. And Brody's impromptu molesting of Halle Berry was a phenomenal plus.

Example four: Roman Polanski, who won the best director award for "The Pianist." OK, it's another Holocaust movie, and there's something kind of icky about that right now, in light of the whole Middle East ratsh*t mess, but whatever. The guy is a felon in exile, and that somehow makes it OK. Don't ask me how; that's a very complicated karmic hat trick, but it all balances out. Talent forgives everything, eventually, even pedophilia and a glut of Holocaust films.


I was unsurprised that Julianne Moore did not win anything. She has made a personal cottage industry out of looking haltingly vulnerable and on the verge of pressing thumbtacks into her veins with that pathetic smile on her face -- that, and being unflinchingly nude.

For this troubled year, I figured she would probably seem a little too controversial. This is wartime, and we've all seen her pubic hair. Not this year, honey.

Thank God Jack Nicholson did not win again. I'm sorry; Jack Nicholson is not an Everyman. I don't think he can adequately represent anyone's life anymore, except maybe Warren Beatty's. He's too louche and unregenerate. Soldiers sometimes get a look of horror frozen on their face from witnessing one too many atrocities; Nicholson's face is frozen in the eternal conquest of young snatch.

Then there was the whole "Chicago" thing.

I was unsurprised that Catherine Zeta-Douglas-Jones won, but not for the right reasons. She did not look surprised, nor did anyone else. Not for nothing did she marry into the Douglas camp, and yesterday was payday. She is nothing if not the prize company brood mare, birthing future company Douglases. And the part was a jewel: What actress doesn't dream of being in a film where she's in jail, but can still wear full hair and makeup?

While Zeta-Jones looked great in "Chicago" -- she's a nice, fulsome size -- looking at Renée Zellweger in a tiny little flapper dress is like looking at Iggy Pop in a tiny little flapper dress, only on Iggy it would be at least be subversive, and therefore sexy. I don't want to see all of the divots in a woman's sternum when I am looking down her cleavage. Collarbones should not look like BMX handlebars. Legs, preferably, should lead to an ass. Preferably, somebody singing and dancing should be able to sing and dance. And she can't stop squinting. How the hell did Renée Zellweger get that role?

"Chicago," while fun and basically entertaining, really could have been great if it had been performed by actual pop-music-type people. Imagine the Catherine Zeta-Jones role performed by Madonna, and the Roxie Hart role performed by Christina Aguilera. How slick would that have been? How much better the singing and dancing? How much stronger the commentary on the fleeting nature of Fame? Or what if they'd used an all-black cast of Alvin Ailey dancers, and made it a comment on the disproportionate amount of black people in jail? As it was, "Chicago" was a lot like watching hammy girls enjoy themselves on karaoke night. The casting for that whole film felt like pact-with-the-devil-company-sh*t, and the devil, as we all know, is the blobular Harvey Weinstein, who, like the neighborhood mobster, seems to have Hollywood in a painful scrotum-hold. Please, Mr. Weinstein, have mercy ... Give the man his Oscars already, Paulie, for the love of God!

While the prosthetic nose was patently absurd (naturally, there are no homely actresses in the world, certainly none of any ability, no, we must use and uglify one of the world's most coddled beauties) Nicole Kidman, in "The Hours", came off like a very smart woman with super-strong chops and surprisingly candid depth. But she looked like a dreadful bimbo once she got up to take her trophy. Write a speech, ladies. When you don't, you look stupid. Nothing unravels the spell of an exceptional performance faster. "Um ... the world … is ... in turmoil, and stuff … and ... uh … I'd like to thank Miramax ..."

Christ. In one dumb minute, she succeeded in reminding me that she was married to Tom Cruise for 10 years, a fact that I had blissfully forgotten in appreciation of her talent.

Who can get it up to enjoy the Oscars, if the Oscars can't get it up? There's so much cheap sentiment, so much hackery and political confusion. Billy Wilder is dead. Fifteen of our boys died in Iraq and 12 were taken as POWs while Catherine Zeta-Jones sang a duet with Queen Latifah that wasn't even in the film. One could barely ignore the dripping derision when Peter Jennings growled, "Now back to the Academy Awards," after the dismal newsbreak.

It's all about Miramax. Harvey Weinstein is probably producing the whole war. Osama bin Laden is probably hanging out in Palm Beach with Jon Bon Jovi, and Saddam Hussein and Don Rumsfeld probably play Grand Theft Auto III in the craft services tent at the end of every shooting day. For the 76th Oscars, maybe Hollywood will stop trying to accommodate the souring mood of the world and do what they are supposed to do: Wear Harry Winston chandeliers, show their shoes to Joan Rivers, wear push-up bras and Botox and Look Pretty. It's better, when you're ogling a beaver shot, not to have to think too much.

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Old 03-24-03 | 05:18 PM
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That is what I thought. She seems like the self-conscious type.
OT - Hey conscience can you check your yahoo account? I wanted to iron out that little misunderstanding.
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I thought Halle looked pissed for a second. But she was a good sport about it for sure. I wonder what came over Brody?
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Michael Moore
He made the exact same speech the night before the Oscars, at the Independent Spirit Awards.

I think his comments were pretty silly, even more so that he couldn't come up with something original to say in front of billions(?) of people after saying the same thing to people in a tent.

Steven Spielberg
Earlier someone mentioned that Spielberg won a special oscar before winning for Schindler's List.

I'm gonna nitpik.

He actually won the Thalberg award, which is not an Oscar statue, but a bust of Irving Thalberg.
Old 03-24-03 | 05:57 PM
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I wonder what came over Brody?
If you have to wonder that you might want to make sure your testicles are still attached.



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Old 03-24-03 | 06:02 PM
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• Quoth CharlesC •<HR SIZE=1>If you have to wonder that you might want to make sure your testicles are still attached.

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This is a causal relationship ... *DUCKS*

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Old 03-24-03 | 06:09 PM
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Old 03-24-03 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by CharlesC
If you have to wonder that you might want to make sure your testicles are still attached.



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Haha, well of course it's obvious she's hot, but I didn't realize it's par for course to grab a hot woman and make out with her after you win an award.

Damn if I had known that, I would have put more effort in getting my role in "Babe Pig in the City" nominated for Best Actor.

Old 03-24-03 | 06:18 PM
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Hell I do it all the time and I've never even won an award!
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You mean your wife?
Old 03-24-03 | 08:19 PM
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Someone please fill me in. I watched most of the awards, but I issed Michael Moores comments.

First of all, who is he?

What movie did he win for?

And what, exactly, did he say?


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