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vaporware 03-23-03 11:03 PM

My Wife and Kids
George Lopez
NYPD Blue

That's all I watch on ABC.

McHawkson 03-23-03 11:34 PM


Originally posted by mee2
Could someone please explain to me what is so creative about adding an "$" in Disney? I mean, is it wrong for a corporation to actually try and make the money necessay to sustain itself?
Have you ever visit Disneyland?

chowderhead 03-23-03 11:44 PM

I watch Miracles, MNF if it's a good game and cos of Madden and The Mole, and The Family if I remember.

I dunno if ABC "getting what it deserves." I think that they rode the Millionaire show too hard but if I had a cheap winner, I would hammer my competition with it as well. They knew the show would never have legs but it died faster than they thought and never "fostered" any shows around it.

I think that ABC resembles Fox in the sense that in the past, they developed quality shows that not many people watched (ABC - The Job, Cupid, Sports Night, Once and Again) to (Fox's Any Ricther, Greg the Bunny, Action, etc). It took 2 hits for Fox - Joe Millionaire and American Idol 2 for Fox to go from dead to competing for first and first in demos.

Networks are cyclical. That is why they replace their network Presidents ever few years. ABC will be back. It's just a matter of timing and getting lucky with one or two shows. Remember, also, they have the Superbowl ever three or so years and the NBA ... "plus the "synergy" of Disney and ESPN so I wouldn't count out the Mouse.

Rogue588 03-23-03 11:52 PM


Originally posted by mee2
Could someone please explain to me what is so creative about adding an "$" in Disney? I mean, is it wrong for a corporation to actually try and make the money necessay to sustain itself?

Originally posted by WiccanPagan
mee2: i feel it is wrong for a company to try to make money with little to no regard for their audience. they edit films under their other studios, including anime, hong kong films, and even their own animated features. i feel if they treated their audiences better money would not be a factor into people liking them or not. you can see an instance of their editing in the upcoming release of wfrr. compare the trailer or the tv spots to the film where baby herman goes under a woman's skirt near the begining.

Originally posted by McHawkson
Have you ever visit Disneyland?
I see what you're saying mee2..and I also see what WiccanPagan is saying too..

I'm a Disney fanatic..['Ol school, though]..while I feel that they really shouldn't mess with the original product, as a business, they're doing what they feel they need to [due to "market research" or whatever..-rolleyes-]..

Perhaps [like WP suggested] they need to look at both the "Joe Six Pack" crowd AND the collectors and try to find some middle ground..

Though, I don't see it happening anytime soon unfortunately..

And..what does Disneyland have to do with anything..?

WiccanPagan 03-23-03 11:58 PM

disneyland (or di$neyland if you wish) is one of the most expensive (read incredibly overpriced places) in the world. while i don't think people most people think about disneyland prices when using money as a factor in disney's status (i don't think most people think about $ at all when using it in place of the s ;)), it is still valid seeing as it is easily as if not more annoying than their dvd/film practices.

MrX 03-24-03 01:52 AM

So what are they doing Monday night? They advertised 2 hours of the Practice starting at 8 CST, but tvguide and their own website say Miracles will be on at 9 CST.

Tandem 03-24-03 08:34 AM

I can't remember the last time I watched a series on ABC. I might have picked up a sports broadcast but other than that I just skip right past the station. I doesn't help that the local ABC affiliate never bothered to make the switch to broadcasting in stereo.

BenCJedi 03-24-03 11:37 AM

I don't watch ABC cause my local ABC station repeatingly denied a waiver request for receiving the distant NY and LA ABC stations on my dish. And out of all my local stations, ABC gets the worst reception in my apartment dwelling. I dunno why they are so deny-happy on waiver requests here. Maybe because their programming isn't any good and they need every last cent from their local advertisers? Well I can't watch it in any, way, shape or form thanks to the waiver denial (well that's not true anymore.. Dish Network recently added local channels on the dish for my area, but I am sticking to the ones I waived for a variety of reasons).

Rico Diablo 03-24-03 12:20 PM

ABC actually started to have a hit with the second season of The Mole...so what did they do? Change hosts and recast it with celebrities.

Brilliant. :rolleyes:

mee2 03-24-03 01:02 PM


Originally posted by McHawkson
Have you ever visit Disneyland?
Have you ever visited Six Flags, Sea World and Universal Studios?
What's your point?

Rypro 525 03-24-03 04:21 PM


Originally posted by Danger1313
ABC actually started to have a hit with the second season of The Mole...so what did they do? Change hosts and recast it with celebrities.

Brilliant. :rolleyes:

I thought the second season tanked miserably, so thats why they wanted to do celebirties this season.

WiccanPagan 03-24-03 04:25 PM

musta thought so enough to say so twice. :)

neiname 03-24-03 04:31 PM


Originally posted by warpcorebreach
I dont watch ABC accept with Alias and Miracles is on.
-eek--eek--eek--eek--eek--eek--eek--eek-

freedexter 03-24-03 04:49 PM


Originally posted by Rypro PG-13
I thought the second season tanked miserably, so thats why they wanted to do celebirties this season.
True, but the summer reruns (or runs, technically) did fare better. It was kinda obvious it was going to fail in its original timeslot. Fridays at 9? Who wouldn't be home watching ABC then?

As for the host thing, they had to get a replacement, since Anderson Cooper was under contract with CNN's American Morning and CNN wouldn't allow him to take time off to do the show. The celebrity thing was rather stupid, though.

Still very entertaining, but stupid.

joefrog91 03-25-03 10:41 AM

The only thing I watch on ABC is football. All of their shows are horrible. I know I should watch the George Lopez show to support having a Latino themed show on tv, but I don't think it's that funny.

WiccanPagan 03-25-03 10:47 AM


Originally posted by joefrog91
The only thing I watch on ABC is football. All of their shows are horrible. I know I should watch the George Lopez show to support having a Latino themed show on tv, but I don't think it's that funny.
yer insane. g lo is one of my top 3 sitcoms on today. he's brilliant.

Morf 03-25-03 10:55 AM


Originally posted by mee2
Have you ever visited Six Flags, Sea World and Universal Studios?
What's your point?

Yeah, no crap. Disneyland and Walt Disney World (and every other popular theme park) charge a lot because they are good at what they do, and people are willing to pay premium prices.

wildcatlh 03-25-03 11:29 AM

The only things I watch on ABC are Dragnet and Monday Night Football, when it's on. That's it.

Chew 03-25-03 01:09 PM

It's begun: Veritas has been shelved until Summer. ABC will play an hour long war coverage special on Mondays for the immediate future. I hope Miracles lasts a little longer.....

They also pulled most of their reality programming for the rest of the season. "Whose Line" is supposed to be coming back.

Just how bad is the season going when Whose Line is the show you fall back on?


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