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Giantrobo 03-21-03 07:14 PM

It's time for TV to Relax the Nudity/Swearing rules....
 
While listening to LOVELINE last night, Adam Corrola brought up a very good point concerning the censoring of nudity and the apparent lax rules where "Gross out reality tv" is concerned.

I have to say that I never thought about it this way but why is it ok to show peolpe eating Antelope ass, Fish Eyeballs, and raw Pig testicles and vomiting afterwards but not... a nipple?

Think about it. How come "the Powers that be" say gross is good breat is bad?

I think it's HIGH TIME they start allowing mild nudity(to ease everyone into the idea) and certian swear words like "s#it".

What do you think??

atari2600 03-21-03 07:35 PM

more boobies? good.

Rogue588 03-21-03 08:07 PM

Ya know, i, too have been wondering why those chicks "eating Antelope ass, Fish Eyeballs, and raw Pig testicles" weren't nude..

I'm glad to see someone else was too..

Feneant 03-21-03 09:04 PM

Most of the sh*t we see on tv should be censored.... I mean your kids seeing someone eating something gross or doing a stupid stunt will influence them a lot more than seeing a topless woman on tv. Swearing I would still censor some words like f**k, but most I don't see why they bother since everyone swears anyways

Giantrobo 03-21-03 09:18 PM


Originally posted by Feneant
Most of the sh*t we see on tv should be censored.... I mean your kids seeing someone eating something gross or doing a stupid stunt will influence them a lot more than seeing a topless woman on tv. Swearing I would still censor some words like f**k, but most I don't see why they bother since everyone swears anyways
I agree.

SunMonkey 03-21-03 09:32 PM

It seems to be a very slow process. Language is much "harsher" now than 20 years ago. And they did show that ass on NYPD Blue. Sooner or later, stuff will start getting through. I seriously doubt, though, that it will be a sudden, "ok, we are going to let this stuff on now," situation. Baby steps. But I do agree that allowing one type of "bad" thing, but not a seemingly less "bad" thing, is pretty ridiculous.

atari2600 03-21-03 10:24 PM

they said ***** on southpark like 200 times.

Rypro 525 03-21-03 11:11 PM

It was actually 162 times. Anyone remeber the old George Carlin skit with the 7 words you can never say on tv. The one's I remeber are F***, $hit, fart, ball is allowed, but only during sporting events. Anyone remeber the other ones?

Alyoshka 03-21-03 11:58 PM

TV has an odd perception of morals that should be enforced.

NC-36 03-22-03 01:33 AM


Originally posted by Rypro PG-13
It was actually 162 times. Anyone remeber the old George Carlin skit with the 7 words you can never say on tv. The one's I remeber are F***, $hit, fart, ball is allowed, but only during sporting events. Anyone remeber the other ones?
1. $h!t
2. piss
3. cun_
4. f***
5. c0cksucker
6. m0therf***er
7. tits

He later added

8. fart
9. turd
10. twat

Since then I've heard #2, #8 & #9 on network TV, plus the aforementioned #1 on South Park 162 times in a half-hour. #7 has also turned up on Comedy Central.

WiccanPagan 03-22-03 01:45 AM

8 was on good morning miami last week. :) and 9 was on an episode of snl. turd ferguson. :)

raKim 03-22-03 11:10 AM

quick question, you want it on tv when you can't even say most of them here? This place is more private than national television
just wondering...

dgmayor 03-22-03 11:12 AM


Originally posted by Rypro PG-13
It was actually 162 times. Anyone remeber the old George Carlin skit with the 7 words you can never say on tv. The one's I remeber are F***, $hit, fart, ball is allowed, but only during sporting events. Anyone remeber the other ones?

I remember him doing this skit on Leno or Letterman or something. He was saying that you could say pissed off, but they bleeped him when he said pissed on.

Josh-da-man 03-22-03 04:05 PM

It's my personal opinion that "Fear Factor" is actually grosser than anything available in pornography today.

This occurred to me a couple of weeks ago when they had the contestants eating bowls full of cheese crawling with maggots. Which, I think, qualifies as being more disturbing than giving The Hedgehog a RJ.

Josh-da-man 03-22-03 04:06 PM


Originally posted by NC-36
1. $h!t
2. piss
3. cun_
4. f***
5. c0cksucker
6. m0therf***er
7. tits

He later added

8. fart
9. turd
10. twat

Since then I've heard #2, #8 & #9 on network TV, plus the aforementioned #1 on South Park 162 times in a half-hour. #7 has also turned up on Comedy Central.

But then there are some words that can go either way. It's okay to prick your finger, but you can't finger your...

caiman 03-22-03 04:28 PM

I think the most obvious evidence of the growing leniency is with the word "God damn". The first time I heard it on TV was with South Park, and now I hear it all the time. Also "dick" and "assh*le" are used quite a bit nowadays.

But where are the boobs already?!

Rogue588 03-22-03 04:38 PM


Originally posted by Josh-da-man
It's my personal opinion that "Fear Factor" is actually grosser than anything available in pornography today.

This occurred to me a couple of weeks ago when they had the contestants eating bowls full of cheese crawling with maggots. Which, I think, qualifies as being more disturbing than giving The Hedgehog a RJ.

[off topic]

I understand that these things might seem gross to some of us, but to others..it's a delicacy..

http://www.cheese.com/Description.asp?Name=Cabrales

Personally, the only cheese I mess with are Romano, Mozzarella, Parmesan, & Provolone..

oh...and AMERICAN. :lol:

[/off topic]

Captain Harlock 03-22-03 08:26 PM

I think there's worse things in the world than nudity.

No one ever set themselves on fire or blew away their school buddys after seeing a pair of womens butt cheeks now have they?

Giantrobo 03-23-03 03:16 AM


Originally posted by raKim
quick question, you want it on tv when you can't even say most of them here? This place is more private than national television
just wondering...


again, my point is if "gross is ok" why not nudity or "bad words"? It doesn't make sense to me.


As far as dvdtalk, is making this place "clean" up to Geoff? I assume if he wanted to relax rules on "swearing" it wouldn't be a problem. However, Nudity on dvdtalk outside of the mature area might be another story.

RoQuEr 03-23-03 03:25 AM

I'm almost positive I've seen fox shows (worlds worst..... 2) where they also covered up puke.

Kudama 03-23-03 10:46 AM

The whole concept of forbidden language is funny. I can say Fornicate, Fecies, Penis, Vagina, Anus (and/or Sphincter). I can’t say” ****, ****, ****, *****, or ******* (and/or ********) in public though.

It’s not the meaning. It’s the exact phonetic component that freaks people out. Are we but simple cave people?

Cut Geoff some slack, though. It’s not his fault that society is skewed ***backwards! He’s running a publicly accessible site and has to watch his ***.

Plus: don’t you know that nudity only dredges up those ugly, horrible urges that God didn’t mean to give you. Hornyness is an abomination!

WiccanPagan 03-23-03 11:51 AM


Originally posted by Kudama
Cut Geoff some slack, though. It’s not his fault that society is skewed ***backwards! He’s running a publicly accessible site and has to watch his ***.
funny you say this, i went to a couple archived threads linked from "other" threads and they still have some of the curse words readily visible. thought it was funny.

DRG 03-23-03 12:23 PM


Originally posted by Kudama
It’s not the meaning. It’s the exact phonetic component that freaks people out. Are we but simple cave people?
This is the part that puzzles me as well. I once had a Mormon friend who would reprimand me for using certain words, and offer up replacements that meant the exact same thing. Why is it okay to say 'penis' to refer to a member, and to use the word 'Dick' as a name, but it's not okay to use the word 'dick' to refer to a member? Ditto with '*****' for cats, etc.

The whole idea of 'offensive words' should really be about 'offensive content', if they really do aim to 'protect the children' in first place. I mean, the nightly news during the Lewinsky scandal had more b.j. and penis references than a year's worth of HBO. So they dress it up with words and phrases no human ever uses in real conversation, like 'fellatio' and 'sexual relations'. All so they can talk about what the rest of the world calls a blow job.

Kudama 03-24-03 12:00 AM

Another pat that cracks me up: The part about ***damn.

Wasn’t “***” the good part and “damn” the bad? Not to mention the word “***” refers to a generalized deity (such as Mercury, maybe?) and not the thing that people can’t call Jehovah. (It reminds me of a story where people called Lucifer satan and “the” devil.)

****ing language! I swear!!!!

tha_dvd_man 03-24-03 12:30 AM

It's just a matter of how idiotic people are, and the networks having to cover their asses accordingly. People have more of a problem with "s**t" than they do with "crap", even though they have the exact same meanings, are used in the exact same contexts, and are pretty much interchangable in phrases (holy s**t --> holy crap, etc.) There is simply no logic to it, just stupidity and oversensitivity. Same thing with nudity. We sure as hell don't want our kids to see a female nipple on television. Graphically depict pumping a guy full of bullets......that's okay, though.

This society is f***ed up.


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