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Rypro 525 03-16-03 02:52 PM

Alias 3/16 "Truth Takes Time"
 
No real spoilers, but here is the plot
Spoiler:
Truth Takes Time
60 min.
The most shocking ally offers to help Syd bring down Sloane before he, Sark and the escaped Irina can steal a German company's genetic-coding technology. Meanwhile, Vaughn faces the music for his unsanctioned research into Derevko's true agenda and receives the oddest gift from his girlfriend's gal pal. Francie: Merrin Dungey. Emily: Amy Irving. Kendall: Terry O'Quinn. Sark: David Anders. (VCR Plus+ 3993)
Also last week they bragged about how the first 90 seconds are so good, you will want to watch the entire hour.

Random 03-16-03 04:41 PM

The episode was alright, the first 90 secs are misleading. I have to admit, I was kinda pissed. :)








[spoiler??]
But that feeling you may have had for Jack at the end of last ep... same for Dixon this ep. like he just opened a can of worms

Bandoman 03-16-03 09:18 PM

This sure gives Sloan motivation. He's going to go way out of his way for revenge. This should be good.

Rogue588 03-16-03 09:21 PM

Standard ep...

Interesting Irina stuff..

I see that Irina actually has to be in her cell for the "time displacement" walk down the hallway..

Syd pissed me off when she stopped to see if Vaughn was alright after getting shot by Sark..The relationship is getting in the way..

It's weird seeing Dixon going on ops with them..Speaking of Dixon, how did he get out of the building before it blew?

Poor Emily..

Poor Dixon..

When the earrings started beeping, for a second there I thought it was Vaughn's tie.. ;)

BTW..was there ever a conclusion to Jack's killing of that curly haired guy..? Or was that rebooted too..?

clemente 03-16-03 09:26 PM

I'm really tiring of the show since the "re-boot."
Its just not engaging me on the same level as last year. Its on the verge of hitting the "Mulder and Scully" syndrome....no matter how hard they tried, they never solved a case.

Vaughn and Sydney will be chasing Irinia and Sloane for five seasons and never catch them, at some point you have to doubt the "super" part of being a superagent.

On the good side, an Marshall is awesome.

B.A. 03-16-03 09:56 PM

I loved the dinner scene when Francie got that look from Syd after she couldn't remember her old boyfriend's name - I was thinking "Busted"! I think she will be going down soon.

In regards to the earrings and the Morse code - Irina always keeps you on your feet - she's bad, she's good, she's bad....

I thought Sydney could have taken out Sark, too. I was like wtf? shoot him!

Why didn't Dixon take out Sloane and Irina - he had the chance. It's called collateral damage for a reason.

Mantecore 03-16-03 09:57 PM

Yeah great episode, and again the beginning was very misleading, But i kinda hoped her mom would have died but o well, and i dont think they should have killed Emily, but Marshal was his usual funny self.

B.A. 03-16-03 10:00 PM

"Is that suede?"

MrX 03-16-03 11:21 PM


Originally posted by Rogue588

Syd pissed me off when she stopped to see if Vaughn was alright after getting shot by Sark..The relationship is getting in the way..

I agree.

I thought it was a average ep. I don't see how they can keep the show fresh by Syd chasing Sloane across the planet every week. I hope this ends by the end of the season.

I hate Evil Francie more then Kim Bauer now.

Very sad to see Amy Irving leave:(

freedexter 03-16-03 11:53 PM

Sad, sad episode. Kids shooting their moms, wives betraying their husbands, CIA operatives accidently shooting informatives.....heartbreaking. :(

I was wrong about Emily, though. I thought she had secrets to hide, but she was one of the very last "innocents". Nobody else remained uncompromised by SD-6/CIA/whatever but her, AFAIK.

I think we all underestimate the writers, regarding how long it'll take to resolve the Sloane thing. Did we all think it would take seasons for SD-6 to be destroyed? It had to happen eventually, but it only took 2 seasons, or 1 and 1/2, really. I don't think it'll take that long to finish this, but if it's just a transfer of evil (SD-6 to Sloane to Sark to whoever to whoever and so on...), then it'll be tired and played out soon.

I'm still sad. Especially since we had to wait 2 weeks for the episode, and will have to wait 2 more week for the next episode. Stupid Oscars...

Patman 03-17-03 05:33 AM

I don't think anyone saw that Emily would come in and turn State's evidence on Sloane. I was wondering how did Sloane not know that Emily was gone to the CIA, no less (you'd think he'd still have her on surveillance when he's gone from their home).

I'd bet the tie that FFrancie gave Vaughn is bugged or laced with something nasty.

Love Marshall's interjections.

*Chuckle* at Sark giving Irina the shock of her life. :D

*Chuckle* at Kendall getting his, uh, legs chopped down for this op.

Sloane's going to be on the warpath due to Emily's death, but you have to wonder if his quest for the Rambaldi artifacts will continue now that Emily is dead, and he had admitted that he was looking for the "fountain of youth" within his pursuit of the Rambaldi artifacts and plans. I guess Irina's Rambaldi search has suffered a setback twicefold now that Sloane is still in the chase, and Sydney has the genetic research information.

Thrush 03-17-03 05:57 AM

What was the morse code message at the end, I missed it?

Rypro 525 03-17-03 06:10 AM

I find Marshal annoying as hell.
the code was like "I miss you" or something like that.

kaempfer 03-17-03 06:14 AM


What was the morse code message at the end, I missed it?
It was "Truth Takes Time" encoded in some way, Syd had to tear up the paper and rearrange the words. She looked confused after reading it..

Patman 03-17-03 06:50 AM

Some parts of me want to believe that Irini has turned "good", and some evidence would be that she wanted Sydney and Vaughn to chase her out of the building because she knew it would going to blow.

Also, given Emily's reaction to Irina, you have to wonder when that backstory will materialize.

I did like the bit about Irini telling Sloane not to try and insinuate himself into Sydney's past as a father figure.

lisadoris 03-17-03 07:00 AM

I enjoyed the episode a great deal:
Francie is so busted after not remembering the ex-boyfriends name. I shutter to think what's up with that tie she gave Vaughn.

I agree that Sydney checking to see if Vaughn was OK was a bit much. She could have nailed Sark but he's too hot to die so soon... I too wonder how Dixon got out of the building. I'm not as concerned with Dixon not shooting Sloan and Syrina - he realized he just killed an innocent person, someone he knew to boot. It may be unprofessional to be shaken up like that but it's Dixon, he does have feelings.

Man I love Marwshall. I think this was the first episode someone actually yelled at him during one of his nervous speeches.
Two weeks until a new episode. Gotta love the Oscars.

alyxstarr 03-17-03 07:51 AM


Originally posted by kaempfer
It was "Truth Takes Time" encoded in some way, Syd had to tear up the paper and rearrange the words. She looked confused after reading it..
I don't think it was really encoded -- I think they just started writing it down in the middle of the repeating sequence. I could be wrong though.

I really want Irina to turn out to be a (primarily) good guy in the end, so the message made me happy. :D

TruGator 03-17-03 08:09 AM

Is there any place I can get a detailed summary of what happened? I got caught up in watching the ESPN selection show.

Meatpants 03-17-03 08:14 AM


Originally posted by TruGator
Is there any place I can get a detailed summary of what happened? I got caught up in watching the ESPN selection show.
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com

RichardW 03-17-03 08:18 AM

ABC has the synopsis up:

http://abc.abcnews.go.com/primetime/...isode218a.html

Static Cling 03-17-03 08:46 AM


When the earrings started beeping, for a second there I thought it was Vaughn's tie..
Yeah, me too. FrancieBot is SO fake. Not the actress, but the spy trying to portray Francie is just an idiot! Did she do ANY research on Francie? Did she do ANY research on how people act in real-life? "I didn't buy my boyfriend anything... but I bought your boyfriend a tie, Sydney!" At least disguise the weirdness by buying EVERYONE something. UGH! It's like she's trying to play a game of "How weird can I act without Sydney blowing my head off?"

Originally posted by Meatpants
http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com
Such a good site. They have the recap preview up right now, and it'll take a few days for the full recap, but they're always worth the wait.

NCMojo 03-17-03 09:44 AM

What happened in the first 90 seconds? I got distracted and did not turn on the TV until 9:04. Stupid XBox...

ALSO -- is it just me, or does anyone else keep screaming the same darn thing every time the CIA goes after Sloane: "Air support! Air support! Where the ***** is my air support?"

Reminds me of the innumerable cop shows where the good guys go in without calling for any backup... I mean, duh!

All in all, another good ep, IMO.

Strafe 03-17-03 10:18 AM

I'm getting tired of every episode since the reboot ending like Ally McBeal, with the music and the touchy feely...

Kal-El 03-17-03 11:12 AM

I think Irina's actually setting up Sloane and Sark in the end. I think she "accidentally" dropped the disk and "just had to" call Sydney in Stuttgart. ;)

Rogue588 03-17-03 11:38 AM

Why is Irina's yelling out for Sydney even being questioned..?

Of course she yelled out so Syd would get out of the building before it blew..

Oh wait..perhaps she yelled to say "Nyah nyah You can't catch me..now even though i'm one of the people that you're here for -- keep running in the opposite direction further into the building that's about to explode.."

C'mon now..-ohbfrank-

movieking 03-17-03 11:42 AM

So how did Jack plant the passive tracker on (in?) Irina? Was it ever explained fully? I missed a little of the episode...

Patman 03-17-03 11:53 AM

Well, that's why Jack's in the spy business...

I doubt Irina accidentally dropped the disc, she was shot in the shoulder and then dropped it.

lisadoris 03-17-03 03:40 PM


Originally posted by movieking
So how did Jack plant the passive tracker on (in?) Irina? Was it ever explained fully? I missed a little of the episode...
I'm guessing in the previous episode when Jack and Irina had their tumble in the hotel room that Jack slipped the tracker on her. In the heat of passion I'm guessing she didn't notice. Just a theory but seems plausible to me.

movieking 03-17-03 03:54 PM

I agree. Wasn't it mentioned before that Jack (and/or Sloane) were injected with something so they could be tracked wherever they went? I know that Sloane was able to get rid of it, but I can't remember if Jack was also injected. If he was, I wonder if it can be transmitted through sexual contact. If so, maybe that is how he inserted Irina with it, and why he didn't explain how he did it...

freedexter 03-17-03 05:28 PM


Originally posted by movieking
I agree. Wasn't it mentioned before that Jack (and/or Sloane) were injected with something so they could be tracked wherever they went? I know that Sloane was able to get rid of it, but I can't remember if Jack was also injected. If he was, I wonder if it can be transmitted through sexual contact. If so, maybe that is how he inserted Irina with it, and why he didn't explain how he did it...
Jack wasn't a member of the alliance, AFAIK, so he didn't have the stuff injected into him.

I think he injected Irina with the passive transmitter during their little sex thing, since when Marshall asked about it, Jack ignored him. For me, it's the only logicial explination.

Dr. Rosenrosen 03-18-03 09:03 AM

The thing about Emily dying is that it turns Sloane's character more one dimensional (or at least it seems like it will). I think he's one of the best villains ever because you see different facets of his personality, including his incredible love, however twisted, for his wife. With Emily dead he may have no redeeming qualities at all. Also, as Patman stated, what will be his motivation to seek the Rambaldi artifacts?

I would have liked it better if they took her body and Sloane then wanted to somehow use Rambaldi to resurrect Emily.

Do we know that Dixon actually shot Emily? Is it possible somebody else (Sark, Irina) did? I'm no ballistics expert, but maybe that wound on her chest was an entry wound, not an exit one (she was running away from Dixon).

And why the heck was Vaughn wearing a flak jacket when Sydney, obviously, was not? Network executive: "Vaughn, you wear a flak jacket so you can get shot and survive. Sydney, you wear an open shirt with a tank top beneath so we can see your boobs."

Static Cling 03-18-03 09:27 AM


Originally posted by Dr. Rosenrosen
Also, as Patman stated, what will be his motivation to seek the Rambaldi artifacts?
*shrug* Power? Especially with that "fire, fire!" device they set off at that church a few episodes ago.

I would have liked it better if they took her body and Sloane then wanted to somehow use Rambaldi to resurrect Emily.
I could totally see Sloane & Sark going on a mission to get her body.

Do we know that Dixon actually shot Emily? Is it possible somebody else (Sark, Irina) did? I'm no ballistics expert, but maybe that wound on her chest was an entry wound, not an exit one (she was running away from Dixon).
Sark was flying the helicopter directly over Dixon... that's what caused him to jerk... and I don't know much about flying a helo, but I imagine flying a helo and shooting a weapon with any sort of accuracy would be difficult.

It's hard to tell entry/exit wounds just by looking at someone that's still clothed... IMO, impossible, with shots fired over a distance. When weapons are up in closer, you should be able to see soot from the weapon collect on the clothing, but at distance, that wouldn't be there. You'd have to look at the actual wound. Some entry wounds from bullets can have what are called a "comet tail effect"... the bullet scrapes the skin on its path into the body. Entry wounds also have what are called "abrasion collars"... a ring around the bullet hole. One forensics myth is that the exit wound is always larger than the entry wound. It is sometimes, but not always. [/morethanyouwantedtoknow]

CharlesC 03-18-03 10:15 AM

Wow, I think I picked a bad episode to start watching this show. So confused.

All I got out of it is "Jennifer Garner is hot." Luckily that was enough to get me through the whole episode.

For people that shoot pistols: Do you really flinch and blink your eyes after every shot? Pet peeve of mine.

alyxstarr 03-18-03 11:05 AM


Originally posted by Dr. Rosenrosen
Do we know that Dixon actually shot Emily? Is it possible somebody else (Sark, Irina) did? I'm no ballistics expert, but maybe that wound on her chest was an entry wound, not an exit one (she was running away from Dixon).
She fell forward, yes? I'm not a ballistics expert either, but to me that would indicate a strong chance of being shot from behind. Plus...

(Minor spoiler for the next new episode)
Spoiler:
Sloane watches a satellite feed of the shooting and Dixon's muzzle flash seems to be the only one that can be attributed to the shot.




And why the heck was Vaughn wearing a flak jacket when Sydney, obviously, was not? Network executive: "Vaughn, you wear a flak jacket so you can get shot and survive. Sydney, you wear an open shirt with a tank top beneath so we can see your boobs."
:lol: My roommate and I were commenting on that too.

~~ PAL ~~ 03-18-03 01:54 PM


Originally posted by Static Cling
*shrug* Power? Especially with that "fire, fire!" device they set off at that church a few episodes ago.
I thought that device was recovered by CIA? Besides, it seemed that was only diversionary tactic by Sloane when he gave it up, as he was really after the circular part that was carved out of a page of Rambaldi manuscript (hidden inside this ancient artifiact from the terrorist dude.)

PAL

Static Cling 03-18-03 02:21 PM

Diversionary tactic or not, it'd still be a nice toy to have in your toy box. Maybe the device was recovered (not sure), but they still have the plans for it, don't they?

Rypro 525 03-18-03 02:48 PM


Originally posted by CharlesC
Wow, I think I picked a bad episode to start watching this show. So confused.

All I got out of it is "Jennifer Garner is hot." Luckily that was enough to get me through the whole episode.

For people that shoot pistols: Do you really flinch and blink your eyes after every shot? Pet peeve of mine.

No, your not supposed to.
anybody got a pic from the end of the episode, there was a great see through shot when she was sitting up listening to the morse code.

And CharlesC, if you got any questions in regards to the plot (if you even paid attention) the members here will gladly help you out, I've gotten help here since I am new as well.

thejammy 03-18-03 03:09 PM


Originally posted by Rypro 525
No, your not supposed to.
anybody got a pic from the end of the episode, there was a great see through shot when she was sitting up listening to the morse code.



Hmm sydney see though shots......Hmmm

As far as Irina I was thinking the same thing. Jack must have slipped her the transmitter when they had that affair.

Does anyone think that Sloane is really the father or something like that? There is something weird going on there. I think it was Irina who got pissed about Sloane talking about Sydney like a "daughter" or something like that?

Deleted tags on non-spoiler - Static

Static Cling 03-18-03 03:33 PM

Yes, it was Irina who was all like, "Never talk of your love for Sydney again." He is the guy that ordered the hit on Syd's fiancee... despite Irina's alliance with him, it doesn't sound like she wants to hear his bullcrap about how much he cares for Syd. Or maybe he really is the dad, but Irina and he made some deal about how he would act in that capacity or acknowledge his fatherhood.

Hmm. I don't know enough about Season 1 and the back story between Arvin, Emily, and Irina... but is it possible that Arvin and Irina had some sort of tryst, and that's why Emily was so "WTH!??!?" when she saw Irina on the plane? I mean, other than the whole "dead superspy walking" thing.

kevin75 03-18-03 08:55 PM

i would assume that emily thought, as did syd, that irina had 'died' so as to not let them in on the fact that she was a spy for the russians, but i could be wrong. i still hope that irina will turn out to be double crossing sloane.


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