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Old 03-14-03 | 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Patman
Jenna is one dumb player to spill the beans to Dave with so little coaxing. Now you have to wonder how much Dave gave up besides the generic info (age, occupation).
I think Dave gave up more info than he (or the editing) would have us believe. After all, Jenna ended up with Matthew by default, so she may have known that he was something of an outcast in the tribe (due to his earlier alliances with Ryan and Dan). If all she had was generic information, I think she would've picked Matthew over Rob and Roger. (But then, maybe I'm giving her too much credit.)

{Edited to fix Matthew's name. Thanks, Patman.}

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Old 03-14-03 | 08:28 AM
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Yes, but she is a bit "butch".

It was ironic how she was talking about testosterone because it appears like she has quite a bit herself.
When I hear her talk I see Melissa Etheridge and one of her damn songs starts to play in my head. Ahhhh!
Old 03-14-03 | 08:40 AM
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"Michael" = Matt

Jenna's got a nice tribe, she did well in picking the young athletic guys for the challenges. Roger and Butch are much older, and might be liabilties going against the younger/faster guys. The women are a wash at this point. Rob looks "soft" not cut or athletic, so her pick of Matt over Rob is justified, but Jenna did wind up picking up Rob because Dave trusts the older guys (Butch and Roger) over the younger ones.

I think Heidi's choice will be very detrimental in how the women fare in this game (unless the other guys like Rob or Matt get smart after the merge and try to get the women to help them eliminate the strongest guys once individual immunity comes into play later). So there might be some strange alliances to engage into the politics of the weak to boot out the strong first (a la Survivor 4 Thailand when Hunter was ousted really early in the game, much to the shock of everyone playing the game).
Old 03-14-03 | 09:36 AM
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Dave's gotta do something. Although he's allied with the two older men, you know that they're going to side with each other against him when push comes to shove. He especially needs to get rid of Butch, who is emininently likeable and will be a threat later in the game.

I wonder how Jenna feels now that Shawna's perked up and is getting all of the attention from the guys. I don't think I saw a single guy try to flirt with her (including Rob!), and I wonder what she was thinking when they said that they voted on the cutest girl and it was Shawna. I'd feel better if I thought Shawna was using her charms to wile the guys, but I'm thinking that if they lose immunity, Shawna's gonna pull a Heidi, and then the women are going to be in really big trouble.
Old 03-14-03 | 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Patman


I think Heidi totally lost 2 votes (Jeanne and Christy's) on the jury with her betrayal of the women (to force a tie at tribal council). She didn't consider the big picture and roll the dice while also preserving some currency in the loyalty bank by booting "Gene" off the continent. If you force Jeanne and Butch to go into a tie-breaker, you still have a 50-50 chance that you'll have a few more days in the game (if Jeanne wins the tie-breaker and that gives you a 3-2 edge against the men, but if Butch wins, you still have a 50-50 chance between Christy and You at the next tribal council).

Heidi did not lose a jury vote from Jeanne and perhaps not Christy depending how far Christy gets because the Jury is only made up of the Final 7 plus the 2 that are left...We still have 11 in the game right now so 2 more will go before the Jury is put together.

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Old 03-14-03 | 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by fujishig
Dave's gotta do something. Although he's allied with the two older men, you know that they're going to side with each other against him when push comes to shove. He especially needs to get rid of Butch, who is emininently likeable and will be a threat later in the game.

I wonder how Jenna feels now that Shawna's perked up and is getting all of the attention from the guys. I don't think I saw a single guy try to flirt with her (including Rob!), and I wonder what she was thinking when they said that they voted on the cutest girl and it was Shawna. I'd feel better if I thought Shawna was using her charms to wile the guys, but I'm thinking that if they lose immunity, Shawna's gonna pull a Heidi, and then the women are going to be in really big trouble.
I know they voted for Shawna, but I think Jenna is MUCH Better looking! Jenna has nothing to fear from Shawna when it comes to looks. Now when it comes to the game....Shawna could end up hurting her....


On another note I guess I am one of the only ones who want Jenna's team to kick ass. I like Alex, Matthew, Jenna, and Rob a lot more than Dave's whole team other than Heidi. I say the Young Group should kick ass for once and vote all those old farts right out of the game

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Old 03-14-03 | 10:33 AM
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Doh! Forgot about the jury thing, but tactically, it was a bad move to alienate people when you don't have to do so.
Old 03-14-03 | 12:42 PM
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From: The City of Angels
Originally posted by Patman
Jenna's got a nice tribe, she did well in picking the young athletic guys for the challenges.... Rob looks "soft" not cut or athletic, so her pick of Matt over Rob is justified....
But she didn't pick Matt over Rob.

Her first male pick was Alex.
For her second male pick, she had a choice between Roger, Rob and Matt. The fact that she picked Rob over the other two makes me think that Dave may have said more to her than we were shown.
Old 03-14-03 | 04:10 PM
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I couldn't believe that Heidi spelled it "Gene" as well. She is not exactly breaking the stereotype of the blonde with implants being having a big ego and an airhead.
Old 03-14-03 | 06:28 PM
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I liked Dave's picks. I think keeping Butch and Roger around was a good idea.

Too bad it is still "Men Vs. Women" for Jaburu, at least that's what Deana thinks. They are ONE tribe.
Old 03-14-03 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Tsar Chasm
I cannot believe that Heidi spelled
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Jeanne, Gene. You have to be kidding me. Let's see... Gymnastics... Gene.... Phonics been berry good to me.

lol i thougt the same thing! when i first saw it i wondered who spelled it like that...i was pretty sure it was one of the guys too. oops!
Old 03-14-03 | 10:26 PM
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I think Heidi voting Jeanne off might have been the single most idiotic tribal council vote in the history of Survivor.
Old 03-15-03 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Jeraden
I think Heidi voting Jeanne off might have been the single most idiotic tribal council vote in the history of Survivor.
You didn't catch the last few episodes of last season, did you?
Old 03-17-03 | 12:59 PM
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Hmmmm. I didn't catch much of this episode, but why did they split up the tribes? I thought from the get go that this was going to be guys vs. girls(until at least the merger, if there was going to be one).
Old 03-17-03 | 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by kneijst1
Hmmmm. I didn't catch much of this episode, but why did they split up the tribes? I thought from the get go that this was going to be guys vs. girls(until at least the merger, if there was going to be one).


That is what they wanted you to think. There are no hard and fast rules in Survivor.

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