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Old 01-25-20 | 06:41 PM
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Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread

Megyn Kelly thinks she was a "voice of reason."
Old 01-25-20 | 06:53 PM
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Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread

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Megyn Kelly thinks she was a "voice of reason."
I'm surprised the audience was able to contain themselves at that!
Old 01-25-20 | 08:50 PM
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Yeah, I expected a little more pushback from the audience of some of her bullshit.

Just saw that someone posted this Last Week Tonight clip in the r/Maher subreddit:

Old 01-25-20 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cellar Door
Yeah, I expected a little more pushback from the audience of some of her bullshit.

Just saw that someone posted this Last Week Tonight clip in the r/Maher subreddit:

https://youtu.be/EYF1_ORI21M

I skipped most of her bs he wasted 20 min of his show on her
Old 01-25-20 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cellar Door
Yeah, I expected a little more pushback from the audience of some of her bullshit.

Just saw that someone posted this Last Week Tonight clip in the r/Maher subreddit:

https://youtu.be/EYF1_ORI21M
Same here. I was really hoping Maher would at least challenge her on some of her bullshit, but he let her off with a pass. So much of what she said was complete garbage, it was unbelievable. I liked the direction Maher was going when he brought up that basically in order to cover Trump honestly, certain networks might seem like they're left-leaning, but that's only because you can't honestly cover Trump without pointing out all of his lies and deflections...And of course Kelly was basically like, no, CNN is biased against Trump, blah, blah, blah. Seriously, there's like thousands of clips of Kelly making patently false statements and/or statements that can be construed as racist/Islamophobic, etc...

She is no "truth crusader", which is what she seems to think she is and was...All she's ever done is help dumb down a certain percentage of the population and do her best to divide Americans and ensure that those divisions remain solid...

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Old 01-26-20 | 04:57 AM
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Who does Meghan appeal to?

Conservatives don't like her when she left FOX and liberals don't like her since they think she is conservative.
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Old 01-26-20 | 09:32 AM
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Let's just have a gentleman's agreement to not pursue this angle of the conversation about Real Time any further. We've both made points, we disagree with each other, we're gonna have to leave it at that, otherwise this becomes the Politics Forum.
See what happens to this thread when a slightly conservative guest comes on the show. Full blown TDS on display. "...but CNN isn't biased like she said! Wah!!"
Old 01-27-20 | 06:28 AM
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I don't think Bill understood that Megyn had NOTHING to do with the Bombshell movie (other than it being about her). She said several times she had nothing to do with it, and Maher keep congratulating her on its success.
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Old 01-27-20 | 07:24 AM
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I think Bill was sympathetic to Megyn Kelly because they were both fired by the 'cancel culture.' Bill knows that the 'cancel culture' is getting worse and I actually think he wants Megyn Kelly to a get a job in the industry again because the same thing could happen to him. From what I read, many people will from MSNBC will not appear on his show anymore after his 'house n***er comment last year? I think it it were a longer interview, he would have delved into more about bias, cable news, the media, etc, but you can't do that in an 8 minute interview.
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Old 01-27-20 | 10:24 AM
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It's hard to feel bad for Megyn Kelly over her career stalling out. (Sexual harrassment issues aside--of course no one should have to experience that.)

She made her bed at Fox News in terms of riling up the base for the Republican party over cultural issues. Then she ruffled the feathers of Trump Almighty and turned a lot of the conservative audience against her, so it's not surprising that they didn't all follow her when she went to NBC. It's also not at all surprising that once she left the Fox bubble, the general public was just kind of 'meh' about her. It's not like her NBC show was popular and took a sudden dive in ratings due to 'cancel culture' when she made those comments about blackface. She was already getting pretty low ratings, so it just gave NBC an excuse to 'cut bait' by disguising a business decision as an ethical mandate.

You can't spend years on a network catering to a pretty specific audience (conservative, older, white) and then expect to suddenly have broader appeal elsewhere. Especially when that potential broader audience has heard some of the bulls**t she spewed on FOX.

Megyn Kelly isn't a victim of cancel culture. NBC gave her a shot, and she blew it. She did this to herself.
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Old 01-27-20 | 11:31 AM
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Kelly's appearance was unusual in that she does not have anything to promote (like a book) and, as others have noted, she isn't really officially connected to the Bombshell movie. Based on the interview, it seems pretty obvious that she saw this as a naked opportunity for some self-promotion and revisionist history about her own role as a right-wing propagandist.

However, regarding the booking, I think Maher realizes that Kelly could be very valuable to the Democrats in 2020.

Maher has said, and it is true, that conservative Trump supporters and moderate Trump sympathizers are never going to be put off Trump by arguments from the left.

Kelly is the perfect example of someone with the Republican credentials that, if she came out in 2020 against Trump's reelection, could be a voice who could sway GOP voters. And it only helps that she was dissed and discarded by those horrible socialists at NBC.

And despite her past, Dems could tolerate (maybe not fully embrace) Kelly because of her #MeToo credentials and her defection from FOX News.

While it may anger some Maher viewers that he would not hold Kelly's feet to the fire, if his agenda is what I suspect, then I can swallow the bitter pill of going easy on Kelly and any like her.
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Old 01-27-20 | 11:39 AM
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Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by cellar door
it's hard to feel bad for megyn kelly over her career stalling out. (sexual harrassment issues aside--of course no one should have to experience that.)

she made her bed at fox news in terms of riling up the base for the republican party over cultural issues. Then she ruffled the feathers of trump almighty and turned a lot of the conservative audience against her, so it's not surprising that they didn't all follow her when she went to nbc. It's also not at all surprising that once she left the fox bubble, the general public was just kind of 'meh' about her. It's not like her nbc show was popular and took a sudden dive in ratings due to 'cancel culture' when she made those comments about blackface. She was already getting pretty low ratings, so it just gave nbc an excuse to 'cut bait' by disguising a business decision as an ethical mandate.

You can't spend years on a network catering to a pretty specific audience (conservative, older, white) and then expect to suddenly have broader appeal elsewhere. Especially when that potential broader audience has heard some of the bulls**t she spewed on fox.

Megyn kelly isn't a victim of cancel culture. Nbc gave her a shot, and she blew it. She did this to herself.

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Old 02-01-20 | 01:51 PM
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I say now with certainty that Michael-Eric or Eric-Michael Dyson is the most pompous self-involved obnoxious guest Bill has had on in a long time. He is so full of himself, his words, and the sound of his voice which almost never ceases. Talks down to all who will suffer his bloviations of patronizing certainty. Awful!

As for the show, it was really sad that I was depressed watching what should have put me in a more jovial mood. I do agree that there has been a paradigm shift and if you think elections were fought dirty before, you ain't seen nothing yet.

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Old 02-02-20 | 02:57 AM
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As for the show, it was really sad that I was depressed watching what should have put me in a more jovial mood. I do agree that there has been a paradigm shift and if you think elections were fought dirty before, you ain't seen nothing yet.
I agree with Bill that Dems don't know how to fight dirty like the GOP, but what mud is anybody going to be able to throw at Trump at make it stick? Who doesn't already know that he is a creep, a swindler, a liar, an adulterer, and a racist?
Old 02-02-20 | 03:46 AM
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I'm thinking now that Trump has been caught cheating twice and everyone knows that he'll try to smear campaigns with ridiculous unfounded and unsupported accusations. Wouldn't it be ironic if his team really did uncover something legitimately slimy on an opponent and no one really believes it cuz he's such a fucking LIAR!

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Old 02-02-20 | 11:08 AM
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I'm thinking now that Trump has been caught cheating twice and everyone knows that he'll try to smear campaigns with ridiculous unfounded and unsupported accusations. Wouldn't it be ironic if his team really did uncover something legitimately slimy on an opponent and no one really believes it cuz he's such a fucking LIAR!
As someone who interacts pretty regularly with a few Obama-to-Trump supporters, I can tell you that they know he lies about stuff, they just think he is telling the truth about the stuff they believe.
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So this week he had Steve Bannon on for a softball interview, and next week is Alan Dershowitz.

Can we finally put to bed the myth that "Maher doesn't invite pro-Trump people" on the show? That said, if he kisses up to Dershowitz and allows him to peddle bullshit the way he did with Bannon, I'm following through on my promise to delete Maher from my schedule. Enough is enough. Maher could become the worst enemy of the Democrats; an avowed liberal who gives nothing but talking points for the conservatives.
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Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread

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So this week he had Steve Bannon on for a softball interview, and next week is Alan Dershowitz.

Can we finally put to bed the myth that "Maher doesn't invite pro-Trump people" on the show? That said, if he kisses up to Dershowitz and allows him to peddle bullshit the way he did with Bannon, I'm following through on my promise to delete Maher from my schedule. Enough is enough. Maher could become the worst enemy of the Democrats; an avowed liberal who gives nothing but talking points for the conservatives.
Bannon is full of shit, he uses the same garbage talking point style that Trump does- if you try and dispute something he says with facts he'll quickly switch to another topic. Dershowitz is just a waste of space.
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So this week he had Steve Bannon on for a softball interview, and next week is Alan Dershowitz.

Can we finally put to bed the myth that "Maher doesn't invite pro-Trump people" on the show? That said, if he kisses up to Dershowitz and allows him to peddle bullshit the way he did with Bannon, I'm following through on my promise to delete Maher from my schedule. Enough is enough. Maher could become the worst enemy of the Democrats; an avowed liberal who gives nothing but talking points for the conservatives.
I skipped it couldn’t watch I don’t mind that he has these stooges on but he doesn’t challenge their bullshit
Old 02-10-20 | 01:17 PM
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Bannon is full of shit, he uses the same garbage talking point style that Trump does- if you try and dispute something he says with facts he'll quickly switch to another topic. .
Isn't pretty much every Politician and pundit like this from the left and right?

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Can we finally put to bed the myth that "Maher doesn't invite pro-Trump people" on the show? That said, if he kisses up to Dershowitz and allows him to peddle bullshit the way he did with Bannon, I'm following through on my promise to delete Maher from my schedule. Enough is enough. Maher could become the worst enemy of the Democrats; an avowed liberal who gives nothing but talking points for the conservatives.
What's interesting is that Maher is considered 'establishment' by the Bernie people. I watch alot of political podcasts and Bernie supporters like Krystal Ball (From The Hill) and Jimmy Dore pretty much hate Clinton, MSNBC, and Maher as they are on par with how Trump base thought of Jeb Bush and the Republican Establishment. I didn't realize the riff was that bad, as it was a real eye opener when Maher and Rachael Maddow are considered the enemy by the Bernie people.
Old 02-16-20 | 09:30 PM
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Another 20 min skip I can’t stand Klobuchar I’ll vote for her if I have to but I hope not
Old 02-16-20 | 10:49 PM
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Bill seems obsessed with the issue Trump potentially not leaving. I'm not saying that it doesn't concern me to a degree, but it seems that by continuously talking about it this soon starts giving it a life of its own. I just think that we should be focusing on actually winning instead of what comes after, which may not even come into play (i.e. Trump legitimately wins)
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Originally Posted by Jack Straw
Bill seems obsessed with the issue Trump potentially not leaving. I'm not saying that it doesn't concern me to a degree, but it seems that by continuously talking about it this soon starts giving it a life of its own. I just think that we should be focusing on actually winning instead of what comes after, which may not even come into play (i.e. Trump legitimately wins)
I agree, but at least he's consistent in asking about it, having had three Democratic and one Republican candidate on the show already this year. The panel echoed your sentiment, criticizing Maher for always bringing it up, and Van Jones also mentioned that it's not an issue that will even happen should Trump win.
Old 02-18-20 | 02:40 PM
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Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread

Trump also Tweeted some weird zooming-gif of him being president till 2048. Wasn't bill just responding to that?

I think the magazine (Time?) was speaking more about Trump's lasting influence after he is gone. Looks bad either way.
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Trump also Tweeted some weird zooming-gif of him being president till 2048. Wasn't bill just responding to that?
No. For several weeks (months?), Bill has been saying that if Trump loses the election, he won't leave. What makes it clear that he's talking about 2020, and not 2024 and beyond, is that he uses Trump's comments on the 2016 election being "rigged" as an example as to how he doesn't accept election results. So yeah, he's clearly talking about Trump losing the election, not whether or not he'll voluntary accept the two-term limit. That will be Maher's talking point for 2021-2025.


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