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Old 06-01-03 | 01:47 AM
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This show is completely screwed. The producers can't seem to make up their f'n minds on who should be in the cast or not. I don't know why NBC wants this to replace FRIENDS when they have SCRUBS, which is ten times better than FRIENDS will ever be.
Old 06-03-03 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by JTH182
British shows have a weird "feel" to them... I watched this one night on BBC, but I wasn't too impressed... it had its funny moments, but the production value and comic timing is different in British shows. Doubt the original would get a big following in primetime US slots... it would seem out of place... but I can't see how a remake will fare any better (it won't).

Okay - I watched a couple of episodes and I agree. One episode, "The Woman with Two Breasts," had some very humorous bits in it, especially when they did language replay. Great stuff.

Another episode where one of the male characters (who is supposedly a player I assume) has trouble getting it up when trying to sleep with one of the girls had a few zingers but it wasn't really funny.

Is the NBC version going to have the same scripts? I have a hard time believing that some of the dialogue could make it to American network television.
Old 06-03-03 | 11:45 AM
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Is the NBC version going to have the same scripts? I have a hard time believing that some of the dialogue could make it to American network television.
So far it looks like they will be remaking at least some of the episodes from the BBC series. But they'll have to cut out a lot of dialogue from the scripts, and I don't mean because of subject matter(although that's also a factor). The UK version runs 28-29 minutes per episode. NBC will have to keep the running time at 22 minutes due to commercials. Something tells me Jeff's constant ramblings will be the first thing to go.
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Originally posted by Doughboy
So far it looks like they will be remaking at least some of the episodes from the BBC series. But they'll have to cut out a lot of dialogue from the scripts, and I don't mean because of subject matter(although that's also a factor). The UK version runs 28-29 minutes per episode. NBC will have to keep the running time at 22 minutes due to commercials. Something tells me Jeff's constant ramblings will be the first thing to go.

Well with the amount of instances NBC goes to super-size episodes on Thursdays, they might not have to cut things because of time.
Old 06-03-03 | 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Doughboy
Something tells me Jeff's constant ramblings will be the first thing to go.
Some of the best stuff on the show are Jeff's ramblings.
Old 06-03-03 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by bahist17
This show is completely screwed. The producers can't seem to make up their f'n minds on who should be in the cast or not. I don't know why NBC wants this to replace FRIENDS when they have SCRUBS, which is ten times better than FRIENDS will ever be.
I'm hoping they're doing this because they want Scrubs to become the new Seinfeld; aka the powerhouse on Thursday nights.
Old 06-03-03 | 05:33 PM
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Some of the best stuff on the show are Jeff's ramblings.
I completely agree. But since a lot of times, his dialogue doesn't really drive the plot of the episode, the producers will deem it expendable.
Old 06-03-03 | 11:51 PM
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Wow... I was only able to bear a minute of that. It was really really bad. I might have to watch this, because I'm entertained by train wrecks. I just can't see this crop of actors making use of the perfect timing that the UK cast had. On Episode 2 of Season 1, the pause during the phone call is about one of the funniest moments I can think of... and I just can't see this cast doing it
Old 06-04-03 | 07:40 AM
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I wonder how they're going to handle "The Woman With Two Breasts."?
Old 06-04-03 | 07:48 AM
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I think that this show is going to go the way of most of the other Thursday night shows that have been developed in the last 5 years....cancellation. Because of the hype that NBC have droned up about it, they probably won't be willing to cut it loose to quickly though...
Old 06-04-03 | 10:54 AM
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You know I just started watching scrubs, and I have to say it is fantastic and is indeed the perfect replacement for friends, I have watched the 1st 8 or so episodes of season 1, and its funny as hell
Old 06-14-03 | 11:21 AM
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I just watched the episode, "The Man with Two Legs." Now that was a damn funny episode. Jeff was hysterical! Whenever I can fee the pain and torment of a character on tv, I know that it is a great show. The woman in that episode was so friggin hot!
Old 06-14-03 | 07:41 PM
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I wonder how they're going to handle "The Woman With Two Breasts."?
http://us.imdb.com/StudioBrief/2003/20030612.html

Ad Buyers Not Shunning Racy 'Coupling'


Despite predictions that it will virtually wipe out network restrictions on sexual content, the NBC sitcom Coupling has had no problems attracting advertisers, who generally steer clear of controversial shows, according to published reports. "Looks Hot to Ad Buyers," headlined the Toronto Star.The Kansas City Star noted that the show "is emerging as the ad buyers' favorite for the fall." Newsday quoted Steve Sternberg of ad buyers Magna Global USA as saying that it's on his short list of new programs that show the most potential to survive. "It's going to be so hyped that people are going to watch," he told the newspaper. Tom DeCabia of ad buyers PHD USA observed that the show is certain to generate a lot of talk. "It makes the innuendos in Will & Grace look calm," he said. "There is stuff on this show that you never thought you would see on network television."
Old 06-15-03 | 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Whenever I can fee the pain and torment of a character on tv, I know that it is a great show.
Richard Coyle seems to be good at that in Coupling (I've never seen his other work). There's bits of it here and there, but the other time that sticks out was in the episode "Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps" (Season 3 finale).

And yes, she was.
Old 07-08-03 | 01:15 PM
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Just got the S1 DVD. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was in 16:9 format. I had no idea when I ordered it.
Old 07-08-03 | 01:43 PM
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I got it a while ago, and have yet to pop it in.
Old 07-09-03 | 09:07 PM
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Is NBC going to use the "Perhaps" title by Cake? If so, that would be one good thing at least.
Old 07-09-03 | 09:39 PM
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I don't know what I think about this May zap2it article about how all the European networks are all over the US version.

They like it, which is a good sign, but somebody actually calls it "better cast", which is completely baffling to me. The clip certainly didn't demonstrate that to me. Maybe they've improved since then?

Even with a good cast, the success of the series is still going to rely on the writers. They're going to have to be really, really good to keep the quality from varying wildly between the UK-script-based episodes and the original episodes.
Old 07-09-03 | 10:31 PM
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Apparently Jack Davenport (aka "Steve" on Coupling) is in the Pirates of the Carribbean movie.
Old 07-10-03 | 09:11 AM
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Stick with the original britcoms-
You would think the networks would of learned there lessons by now- Don't they remember they tried to remake Fawlty Towers not once but twice- what a disaster!- and even they tried Ab Fab another disaster-
There can only be one Coupling, Are you being served, Ab Fab, Fawlty Towers, Mr. Bean etc- And we have the UK to thank for that- Long Live Britcoms!
Old 07-24-03 | 11:20 AM
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An article on US Coupling in today's USA Today. Best news is that Moffat is currently writing scripts for a S4 of UK Coupling. Wasn't sure if there was going to be a S4. I still have yet to see any of S3. I hope BBCA will be replaying them soon.

NBC hopes 'Coupling' will play in the USA
By Bill Keveney, USA TODAY

LOS ANGELES — When it comes to launching an American TV series, a hit British show has a lot going for it.
Unlike with a new idea, the concept is easy to picture. Development of characters and story lines is laid out over time. And the fact that viewers like it there might mean they'll like it here.

Of course if it were that easy, American networks would simply import the entire BBC lineup. And failed British transplants, including Men Behaving Badly and Cold Feet, show that is not the right strategy.

So why do executive producer Ben Silverman and NBC program chief Jeff Zucker see Coupling, a popular BBC comedy about singles, relationships and sex, as the right show to make the jump across the pond? They think it will travel better than most.

The American remake has been thought by some to be successor to Friends, which enters its honest-to-goodness last season this fall, while the British version has sometimes been called a sexed-up Friends. But Coupling's creator disputes the Friends comparison and NBC points to differences between the shows. The U.S. version also will feel the pressure of a high-expectation time slot after Will & Grace.

Silverman, 32, a former William Morris agent with a background in international programming, says Coupling will connect with U.S. viewers.

"It was more informed by American television than almost any other show I had seen coming out of the U.K.," he says.

Silverman, who started the Reveille production company last year, says Coupling is more grounded in the reality favored by most U.S. viewers than some British comedies, which lean toward farce.

Others involved with Coupling refer to its universality, that the relationship issues its six, thirtysomething singles face are similar whether you live in London or Chicago, where the U.S. version is set.

The show's look, along with the structure, has led to frequent comparisons with Friends, but producers note the differences. Coupling is based on the lives of its married creators, Steven Moffat and Sue Vertue. The central coupling involves Steve and Susan.

"The resemblance is photo-shoot deep. Coupling is the story of one couple (Steve and Susan) as seen by, and recounted to, their friends and exes," says Moffat, who writes the British scripts.

Two of the characters, Jeff and Jane, don't speak to each other until the 22nd British show, and there aren't many episodes in which all six share a scene, Moffat says.

Zucker says Coupling is "far more adult" in content. Cheers veteran Phoef Sutton, an executive producer and the head writer of the American series, says Coupling's characters are "a little bit less warm and cuddly" and not all are as friendly as Friends.

Nevertheless, the American producers don't protest when their show is compared to a top-rated comedy whose viewers might want to sample the newcomer.

The attempt to have it both ways comes up again with Coupling's heavy sex content, which focuses far more on talk than action.

Zucker has talked about pushing the content envelope, but last week talked about the show's focus on relationships. Producers acknowledge the sexual content, but say the show is about honest dialogue about adult relationships, including sex, presented from both a male and female perspective. However, if references in the pilot to oral sex, a bathroom-stall coupling and talk of "porn buddies," men who will hide each other's X-rated stash from parents in the event of death, create steamy buzz, that's OK, too.

Zucker, in need of a new comedy hit, says the adult comedy of manners (or lack thereof) fits the NBC sophisticated sitcom template of Frasier, Will & Grace and Friends.

Sue Vertue's mother, Beryl, a Coupling producer who helped bring across the show that became Sanford and Son, agrees that NBC is the right American fit. She partnered with Silverman's Reveille after working with him on other matters. It helped that Reveille, which produces NBC's The Restaurant, works with Universal Television, run by former British TV executive Michael Jackson.

With Coupling's universality in mind, Moffat's pilot was adapted without substantial change. Sutton frequently consults Moffat, who is writing the show's fourth season, by e-mail about changes to existing scripts and new story ideas.

Despite the feeling that Coupling was a good fit for American TV, the adaptation took time. A first pilot, produced last fall, wasn't satisfactory, Zucker says.

Casting also wasn't right, and that's integral to a show's success.

For the second version of the pilot, shot in March, the show used Coupling's first episode and recast three of the main roles. Producers and NBC were much happier with the result. (TV critics gathered in Los Angeles for the summer press tour, where NBC's presentation begins today, have been less enthusiastic, expressing mixed reviews.)

Coupling, as with most British series, produces only a handful of episodes per season; its three-season total is 22, the equivalent of one American TV season.

With fewer episodes, relationships develop faster. In the British Coupling, Steve and Susan celebrate their first anniversary together in the 12th episode, which comes in the second season. That won't happen that quickly in the American Coupling, which will mix in new scripts to go along with adapted Moffat originals.

Moffat's scripts will have to be trimmed substantially. Each British show runs 30 minutes on the commercial-free BBC, which is nearly nine minutes longer than the average American sitcom.

Some language differences must be translated, with a "loo break" becoming a visit to the bathroom. Other differences require cultural adjustment.

In the first British episode, Steve emerges from a bathroom-stall dalliance with Jane and bumps into Susan on his way to a condom machine, a staple of British restrooms. With such machines not as common here, Sutton's script has Steve call Jeff, waiting in the nearby bar, to ask him for a condom. Jeff then asks Patrick, a stranger, if he can borrow a condom, allowing for a comic first meeting of the pair.

"It gave us a chance to have Patrick and Jeff meet in an interesting way," says Sutton, who wanted to join the show after becoming a fan of the BBC America episodes. "A problem comes up (and it) solves another problem."
Old 07-24-03 | 11:46 AM
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Best news is that Moffat is currently writing scripts for a S4 of UK Coupling.
Begins filming (tentatively) in Jan '04, so we have quite a wait before BBC America gets it.
I still have yet to see any of S3. I hope BBCA will be replaying them soon.
Reairings start Sun, Aug 10.
Old 07-24-03 | 05:32 PM
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when i started this thread, i never realized it would last so long. anyway, good to hear the news about S4.
Old 07-24-03 | 06:27 PM
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2 min clip up on zap2it
http://tv.zap2it.com/shows/video/nbc/coupling/
I missed this and it looks like it's gone now... :/ Even though everyone says it sucks, I still wanna see it. In fact, people saying it sucks makes me wanna see it more. Anyone know a place I can see this?
Old 07-24-03 | 06:43 PM
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I missed this and it looks like it's gone now... :/ Even though everyone says it sucks, I still wanna see it. In fact, people saying it sucks makes me wanna see it more. Anyone know a place I can see this?
http://www.zap2it.com/index/video/tv...,-5217,00.html

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