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Old 01-14-03 | 10:13 PM
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The thread creation madness must stop!

Mods, can we get a policy/guideline instituted so that thread creation for new episodes should only be created on the air date of the episode, and not any sooner.

To have threads created 2 days in advance or earlier, and then expect people to go searching for 2, 3, 4 day old threads is getting not only impractical, but just a big PITA.

Can we take a poll on this topic?
Old 01-14-03 | 10:19 PM
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People are doing it to try and one up each other.
Old 01-14-03 | 10:20 PM
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We need to do something about it. Everyone flames me for starting a thread at 8 A.M. the day of the show and Patman you started the 24 thread at 5 A.M. looks like you are trying to do a BigJim25 impression. How about a 24 hour guideline. Threads need to be posted only 24 hours in advance. I have never started a thread more than 24 hours before the show. Everyone is getting really hateful about this. Let's do something about it.
Old 01-14-03 | 10:35 PM
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At least Patman's had a bit of substance to it, since he briefly discussed some of the content of the show. I find that some people who start threads early do it for absolutely no reason, aside from saying "Welcome to the thread, post comments here". Are these people trying to up their post count, or do they get some kind of kick of seeing their names as the author of threads? I cannot see any other reason for it.

I don't think that the 24 hour thing would do much, since these same people would probably watch the clock until 24 hours before the show to start a thread again.
Old 01-14-03 | 10:38 PM
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And here I was just about to start a thread on Survivor: Mars.
Old 01-14-03 | 10:48 PM
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At least Patman's had a bit of substance to it, since he briefly discussed some of the content of the show. I find that some people who start threads early do it for absolutely no reason, aside from saying "Welcome to the thread, post comments here". Are these people trying to up their post count, or do they get some kind of kick of seeing their names as the author of threads? I cannot see any other reason for it.

I don't think that the 24 hour thing would do much, since these same people would probably watch the clock until 24 hours before the show to start a thread again.
I guess some people do get a kick out of it. I just started the threads to get some conversation about the show posted. You start the conversation and get substance. It also tells people that there is a new show on tonight. I just started them to start the conversation and maybe get some spoilers and have people say looks like a good episode tonight or man I have a night class and have to tape it. Also you could be nice and wait to post Buffy episode recaps on Tuesday when everybody else watches it. It is just too tempting not to look at it.
Old 01-15-03 | 12:58 AM
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I just started them early to give you guys aheads up about them being back on with new episodes this week. I don't see why everyone is getting their panties in a wad for. Some folks don't have Tivo and have to use a VCR to program these shows. Again, as started before in another thread I did use the spoiler tags so you don't have to read if you don't want.
Old 01-15-03 | 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by lwhy?
Also you could be nice and wait to post Buffy episode recaps on Tuesday when everybody else watches it. It is just too tempting not to look at it.
Nice to wait? It is not like someone accidently comes across the post. I clearly mark the date of the show when it is shown in the US, even though I see it before that, and when I discuss spoilers, I use tags. People's lack of willpower is their own problem.
Old 01-15-03 | 08:52 AM
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I said something about this a few months ago when it started, but people got mad at me, so I dropped it.

But it is getting kind of silly. I don't think we need any hard rule if people could just be reasonable about it. Patman has a legitimate gripe. When you have to search for the thread for an episode that's currently being televised, it was started too early. We're just not active enough here in TV Talk for new episode threads to be pushed off the front page.

As for "flaming," I've seen a lot of requests for you to stop doing it, but I haven't seen any flames.

It would suck to have to get a mod to set some rule on exactly when a thread can be started, but if we can't be more reasonable about it, that may be where we're heading.

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Old 01-15-03 | 09:15 AM
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Why is this a problem?

I've never had any trouble finding the thread for a show I wanted to discuss. If it's not on the first page it's probably on the second.

As long as it isn't weeks in advance, I have no problems with the threads starting a few days early.

I read a "Buffy" board where half the people watch the wildfeeds for the show and post threads 3-4 days in advance.

Seems like a really minor gripe.
Old 01-15-03 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by das Monkey
I said something about this a few months ago when it started, but people got mad at me, so I dropped it.

But it is getting kind of silly. I don't think we need any hard rule if people could just be reasonable about it. Patman has a legitimate gripe. When you have to search for the thread for an episode that's currently being televised, it was started too early. We're just not active enough here in TV Talk for new episode threads to be pushed off the front page.

As for "flaming," I've seen a lot of requests for you to stop doing it, but I haven't seen any flames.

It would suck to have to get a mod to set some rule on exactly when a thread can be started, but if we can't be more reasonable about it, that may be where we're heading.

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I guess I started the whole early thread thing when I joined. I only posted the day of the show. I will now put more "substance" into the threads. If you post the day of the show even if it is 12:01A.M. it lets some people know that there is a new show by starting it early. As for flaming i don't mean like cussing. There has been a few snide remarks (lwhy? impression) and the whole lwhere? thread that pissed me off for a couple of days. I think I should just stop posting here and leave if it is that much of a problem to get everyone riled up about.
Old 01-15-03 | 12:36 PM
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How about we make a rule: you can start a thread on a show only if you've already seen it.
Old 01-15-03 | 12:47 PM
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• Quoth huzefa •<HR SIZE=1>How about we make a rule: you can start a thread on a show only if you've already seen it. <HR SIZE=1>


I like that for the most part, but I can see where others are coming from. There are times when a "reminder" thread is helpful, especially around the holidays when shows go on hiatus or appear in wacky timeslots. We wouldn't want to hinder that with any thread-creation rules.

My main concern would be that there's a solid reason for creating a thread. Creating them just for the sake of doing it is what appears to be annoying people. This is the kind of thing I would expect we could handle without an official rule.

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Old 01-15-03 | 12:57 PM
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OK, let's use the suggestions above and do it this way: the earliest you can create a thread is 24 hours in advance. I think that sounds fair.
Old 01-16-03 | 01:04 AM
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HOW ABOUT
We have a sticky at the top where people can post (1 post) about whether a certain show will be new this week (and a brief synopsis or fun fact or guest star or whatever), then like huzefa said, the "Actual" show thread can be started only after the show has been seen by somebody

the posts in the sticky can be deleted responsibly by the poster sometime after the show has aired and it will be like release dates for DVD's, movies, and CD's in the respective other forums.

If that made sense to you then my work here is done.
Personally I would like us just to be able to create threads in a timely, civilized and mature manner, but if that cannot happen this may actually be a nice way to correct the problem, and give a quick reference to us avid TV watchers

By the way, this post was not meant to single out anyone, lwhy?, you're ok in my book(I LOVE SMALLVILLE), as is everyone else, I love all of you hurt by the cold...
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Old 01-16-03 | 07:48 AM
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I was going to post about another trend: threads are starting to cover multiple episodes. Looks at "Joe Millionaire" or "Celebrity Mole." Both of those contain discussion on the first two episodes of each show.

It doesn't bother me, it was just something I noticed.
Old 01-16-03 | 08:49 AM
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So I can't make the "Friends Season Finale 5/23" thread yet?
Old 01-16-03 | 03:09 PM
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So I can't make the "Friends Season Finale 5/23" thread yet?
not like there is anyone who doesn't know
Spoiler:
joey is chandler's mom, rachel pulls an mj with baby over the balcony, ross goes through a season without proposing, monica becomes a pornstar, and phoebe kills everyone in a blind rage after a botched sex change.

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Old 01-16-03 | 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Draven

I read a "Buffy" board where half the people watch the wildfeeds for the show and post threads 3-4 days in advance.

What is a wildfeed?
Old 01-16-03 | 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by WiccanPagan
monica becomes a pornstar[/spoiler]
Spoiler:
Would that be shark porn?


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Old 01-16-03 | 04:46 PM
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What is a wildfeed?
Shows taken "straight from the satellite."

Most shows are beamed to the stations a few days in advance. There are people that can receive them as well. Then they encode them and people download em.
Old 01-16-03 | 06:29 PM
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Aaaaah.

Learn something new everyday.

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