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Nathan Gervais 12-06-02 11:25 AM

Help Save Firefly
 
Hi,
well FOX is at it again. They have a quality show in danger of getting axed because its in the Friday 8e/7c graveyard timeslot. FIREFLY is Joss Whedon's sci-fi/western hybrid show and it gets better every week. If you've never checked it out, please do so and if you have a spare 30 seconds or so please take the time and sign the petition. It may not help but it can't hurt. Here is the link. Thanks.

http://www.savefirefly.com/

das Monkey 12-06-02 11:28 AM

You'll have better luck saving <I>Firefly</I> if you don't imply that <I>Dark Angel</I> was a "quality show." ;)

But I'll do what I can.

das

cooper2000 12-06-02 11:40 AM

I agree in helping if shows are worth saving but it seems like lately that people want to save every show that is cancelled.
Farscape deserves to be saved but for the life of me, I just dont think firefly was that good.

Lateralus42 12-06-02 11:48 AM

signed it. There is a new episode tonight as well, cant wait!!!

Nathan Gervais 12-06-02 12:01 PM


Originally posted by cooper2000
I agree in helping if shows are worth saving but it seems like lately that people want to save every show that is cancelled.
Farscape deserves to be saved but for the life of me, I just dont think firefly was that good.

I happen to agree with you basic point but disagree about FIREFLY. If you based your opinion on the first episode of the series, I'd give you that. Seems the show was into production when FOX decided they wanted something with more action to open the series up so Whedon was forced to write a new pilot in a couple of days. Plus, it can't help that FOX has been showing the show out of order. Still, the show has always been well written and I think its gotten better with each episode. Some shows need time to settle in and I think FIREFLY is one of them. There has been talk of moving the show to Thursday night and maybe that will help. Still, any other help would be great. I really don't watch a lot of TV and I'm always sad when stuff I do like gets the plug pulled too early. For the record....I'm sorry that I might have made an implication that DARK ANGEL was a quality show in that time period.
Thanks again folks.

elektra 12-06-02 12:11 PM

I signed it because although the show has not "wowed" me yet, I can see it's potential. Joss has this amazing ability to create some really interesting characters and they are interesting early on in development. I like his work and his storytelling.

I agree that Farscape should be saved as well, as it is also quality TV.

And yet, through it all, crap like Enterprise is still on.

Nathan Gervais 12-06-02 12:15 PM

Hi Guys,
buzzing around and I found another online petition that is getting a lot more play than the first one I posted. Spread the love people. Here is the link.

http://www.petitiononline.com/firefly1/petition.html

Thanks again.

Goat3001 12-06-02 12:21 PM

Signed both. Don't watch the show but I don't mind helping out. :up:

das Monkey 12-06-02 12:23 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth elektra •<HR SIZE=1>I signed it because although the show has not "wowed" me yet, I can see it's potential.<HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agree 100%. I'm not on board just yet (and to be fair, I have a backlog on my TiVo), but I see the potential and think it's not only worthy of remaining on the schedule, but <I>more</I> worthy than a lot of other shows clouding the airwaves.

Best of luck to you, <B>Nathan</B>.

das

lisadoris 12-06-02 05:06 PM

Signed it, happy to see there's a new episode tonight too.

bboisvert 12-06-02 06:12 PM

I'm glad people are enjoying this, but I bailed after 3 episodes. It's just too much of a western for my taste.

I see potential (although, in fairness, I see potential in a lot of shows), but this just didn't deliver for me. Too bad, it was basically the only new show I was looking forward to this year.

Mourn 12-06-02 06:31 PM

I don't know if it will do any good, but i signed.

elektra 12-06-02 07:06 PM

Signed the new one too.

das - you really do have a knack for seeing the quality in shows. I don't always agree with you, but I respect your views and like to "hear" what you have to say about stuff.

das Monkey 12-06-02 07:10 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth elektra •<HR SIZE=1>das - you really do have a knack for seeing the quality in shows. I don't always agree with you, but I respect your views and like to "hear" what you have to say about stuff. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

:D Right back at you, and I'm not just saying that to be polite (I mean, come on ... when am I ever polite? :))

das

Isaac Jaffe: "If you're dumb, surround yourself with smart people; and if you're smart, then surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you."

elektra 12-06-02 07:11 PM

das - :) You? Polite? Uhhh, yea, all the time! ;)

Aaron Amos 12-06-02 11:13 PM

I signed both petitons. Good Luck!

Nathan Gervais 12-07-02 01:34 AM


Originally posted by Aaron Amos
I signed both petitons. Good Luck!
thanks to everyone who has signed and everyone who hopefully will sign. Its a show like any other that needed time to find its sea legs and some balance. Still, rotten timeslot. The have never had a real hit there. Remember 10 years ago when the hot show at 8e/7c was going to be Brisco County and the show that was going to gone by midseason was X-Files? Ever since that spot is a graveyard. Kind of makes sense though. You start with a crappy slot, you don't advertise and you take a series that has a definite plan about how it wants to introduce the series and its characters and the network programmers throw that all to the side and show everything out of order. Its almost like a blueprint for how to cancel a series without ever having to shoulder the blame. <sigh>...anyway...lets hope this rumour to Thursday nights are true. If it fails there maybe it could replace Tremors on Sci-Fi when it goes the way of the doo doo.
Thanks again
oh one more thing....quick question....I posted this on another DVD message board under the TV section and I was promptly banned for posted spam. Does anyone here think that a plea to sign a petition counts as spam?

rocketsauce 12-07-02 02:10 AM


[i]
oh one more thing....quick question....I posted this on another DVD message board under the TV section and I was promptly banned for posted spam. Does anyone here think that a plea to sign a petition counts as spam? [/B]
not necessarily spam but you obviously just joined this forum to get your precious show saved. Although I don't think you should be banned, I really wish i hadnt wasted my time reading this thread

elektra 12-07-02 09:45 AM

Titles are usually a pretty clear indicator of what the thread is about. It's our choice as to whether or not we wish to read them.

I don't consider this spam at all, for this or any other show. If it's a show I'm not interested in or a topic I don't care for, I don't read the thread.

das Monkey 12-07-02 12:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth elektra •<HR SIZE=1>If it's a show I'm not interested in or a topic I don't care for, I don't read the thread. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's amazing how difficult this is for some.

das

Breakfast with Girls 12-07-02 03:17 PM


Originally posted by rocketsauce
Although I don't think you should be banned, I really wish i hadnt wasted my time reading this thread
I wish you hadn't wasted my time by posting that.

Draven 12-07-02 04:52 PM

I signed the petition, but I also took the time to write a personal note to FOX as [email protected]. Here's hoping someone actually reads it. I would encourage others to do the same.

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I wanted to take a moment and let you all know how worried I am about the possible cancellation of "Firefly." This was inspired by the recent airing of "War Stories," another quality episode of this freshman show.

I understand the viewers haven't been there every week. I understand that FOX is a company, with responsibilities to its shareholders. This is a business, and viewers=advertising dollars=profit. I understand all of the logistics involved with making a television show profitable.

However, positive responses to this show among the Internet community have grown each week. I would ask you to check out sites like www.dvdtalk.com, www.aintitcoolnews.com, and www.televisionwithoutpity.com to see the outpouring of support for this show.

The schedule has been confusing, the episodes have been aired out of order, and viewers are hard to come by on Friday nights. But people are enjoying the show. They are taping it and TIVOing it, then discussing it at length afterwards. They might not be Nielsen families, but they are out there. They are invested in the characters and the stories, and are eager to see what the future holds.

FOX has had a run of shows Friday evenings that met with cancellation. Sometimes, that cancellation may have been premature, because a few of those shows had glimmerings of something great. Nothing can be done about that now. But something CAN be done about "Firefly" and I hope you will give the show a chance, at least for a full season, to find it's audience and ultimately prove profitable to your company.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Christian Unser

Nathan Gervais 12-07-02 05:52 PM


Originally posted by rocketsauce
not necessarily spam but you obviously just joined this forum to get your precious show saved. Although I don't think you should be banned, I really wish i hadnt wasted my time reading this thread
I'll admit to joining this forum to try and drum up support but since yesterday I've spent quite a bit of time here and have found the level of posting to be good natured & intelligent up until your response. Still, you saw the thread and you ventured here of your own free will. Seems to me you could have saved yourself the time to simply jump to another thread instead of wasting your time to write a hostile response. Yes, I do like the show and think it deserves a chance to continue. I also believe in putting my money where my mouth is. These petitions may not do any good but at least an effort was made.
Have a good one rocket. To everyone else, thanks for pitching in.

Darren Garrison 12-07-02 09:45 PM

A 100,000 name on-line petition and 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbuks. In case you miss the sarcasm, on-line petitions are utterly WORTHLESS.

Flay 12-07-02 10:07 PM

Is there a petition to ask Fox to remove FireFly from it's lineup?

I'd sign that one.


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