Patman

No kidding! I have no idea how they got Aimee Mann on Buffy, but I appreciated the effort.

crankyman

loved it. and tivo'd so the girlfriend can watch it tonight. and aimee mann was very cool.

i hate playing vampire towns....

bedhead_75

Holy crap! That was an excellent episode. The fight choreography still bugs me however. Can't they get the same people that do the Angel fights? They seem more natural somehow. The fights on Buffy lately have been very wooden and a little too choreographed.

tywebb1976

all in all, good episode. I hope all this build-up for the big bad, doesn't leave a major letdown when its finally revealed.

Doug Heffernan

I think this is a recycled joke from season 2 or three, can't rememeber which ep. though.

cooper2000

Question...Who is, Kim Bauer ?

God, I hope you are wrong about Giles. I dont want a evil one running around.

About Spike, I thought it was the morrphy thing that was making him do it. Someone else on here seemed to think it was all in his head?

grunter

Actually, I've got to pretty much agree with you. That was one disjointed and pretty forced piece of writing for "Buffy."

Any episode that has to shoe-horn in another musical guest and which includes an explicit reference literally to the "Big Bad" obviously didn't get through the whole re-writing process. Much of the time, it almost felt like the writers had lifted whole conversations from fan chat threads and popped them into the characters' mouths.

I thought the Spike/Anya scene was very stiff and simply thrown in for a random bit of funny. And the whole "morphy" thing just isn't gelling properly. There's no sense of dread when there's no differentiation between the characters and their doppelgangers.

What is it with UPN pushing these music artists in their shows of late? Trying for some of that cross-marketing magic?

Rogue588

Quote:

Originally posted by cooper2000
Question...Who is, Kim Bauer ?

Jack Bauer's daughter from 24. Head on over to any 24 thread to see how smart she is...

Wizdar

Why would they have to ax (literally) Giles in England to allow the Morph Giles to appear in Sunnydale? We’ve already seen [apparently] a Morph Spike and Morph Buffy.

What’s with the song that seems to transform/hypnotize Spike? Is that real, or all in his mind?

Let’s discard the possibility of a crossover for a moment. Anyone think that Big Bads happening at about the same time on Buffy and Angel are just a coincidence? I’m not implying anything cross-network. But Joss is running both shows, n’est ce pas?

DVD007

I think it has something to do on whether or not they have died or not....Every person "Morphy" is dead or has died at one time or another. My friends and I predicted that the Watchers would be next after the potenial slayers.

Bruce

Patman

Kim Bauer is a character on "24" (Fox). She has a penchant of being very dumb in stressful situations, but she's a very cute blonde girl at the cusp of womanhood, and we love it when she runs.

Dr. DVD

I too am kind of fed up with the "musical guests" every episode. I like Aimee Mann ok, but they don't need to take the route of artist of the week, especially when they stop the plot dead to just focus on the music.

In terms of Giles

KayUK

What will happen to "Ripper"?

Last I heard it was still going ahead when ASH had time in his schedule.

Draven

Okay, to be fair they have been doing things like this since Season 2. And how many bands did we have to sit through throughout their high school years at the bronze?

If anything, I feel it makes the season feel way more like an earlier season.

I point to "When She Was Bad" with Ciabo Matto (sp?) intercut with Buffy's seduction dance with Xander. We got the same thing with Aimee Mann intercut with Spike and the girl vamp fighting. The plot didn't STOP, and it was the cutting back and forth that made it work for me then, and it worked for me now.

P.S. And it isn't even CLOSE to "every episode." C'mon.

Doug Heffernan

It cracks me up when people talk about the "writing." I know of one actual scrennwriter in dvdtalk, but these armchair "writing critics" are sometimes too much. Do people just post things that they perceive to be "intelligent sounding and insighful" to try impress themselves? It must be, because I don't think I am the only one who isn't impressed! Lighten up!
Oh, and I think the musical guests are okie dokey!

Pointyskull

Right on, bro.
As much as I like chit-chatting about BtVS after the fact, it all comes down to that 40-some odd minutes on Tuesday night.
We all know the show's premise is implausible right off the bat, so all I expect is a few good laughs, a little suspense and something to string me along until next week.

I haven't really been disappointed yet...

Wizdar

Can you suggest a better term for the "script" or "screenplay" or both?

Or perhaps I'm not seeing your point.

Dr. DVD

The musical bits in the earlier seasons are what my scan forward function on my remote are for.

Doug Heffernan

I'm just referring to the old "sometimes it gets way to in depth in here" premise. Some folks act like this is an industry insider forum and they are writers discussing prose techniques - not my cup of tea, but to each his own I guess!

And I agree with 12th Monkey, havn't been dissapointed too much! Well, except for seaon 4's "Beer Bad", but even that, my least favorite Buffy ep, is still better than 90% of the crap out there!

MrN

Occum's Razor: It's sweeps month.

grunter

Yeah, that's exactly why I do it.

Thanks for the flame.

Kisses.

lisadoris

I personally enjoyed the episode - musical guests don't bother me as long as the plot keeps rolling. Please, please, please don't let Giles go out this way! He deserves so much better though it would be cool for him to return as the big bad

Verminaard

I thought it was an OK episode. It didn't grab me like last week's, but it was better than that magical jacket one. I never heard of the singer lady before. She do anything else?

Pointyskull

Get all the background info you need here

In a nutshell, she was in Til Tuesday (hit 'Voices Carry'), and then she went on to do some critically acclaimed solo work. Check out the movie Magnolia - her music is almost as important as some of the characters....

cooper2000

The only reason I think The Big Bad are the same on Angel and Buffy is because Wanda from E! Entertainment said this when asked if they were one in the same.
Heres the post:

From shaun401: Are the Big Bads on Buffy and Angel related? "From beneath you, it devours" seems pretty much like the big bad on Angel last night.

Ding, ding, ding! And a Kewpie doll for the lady.