Simpsons--Fox's #1 show. Has any other show ever done this?
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Simpsons--Fox's #1 show. Has any other show ever done this?
I was just perusing the ratings and was amazed to see that, even though it weekly falls between #26 and #37 in terms of all the shows on the air, The Simpsons is still Fox's #1 show. 24 is #2 (sweet!).
I know this is like The Simpsons 12th? season--has any other sitcom or drama consistently been this hot for a network for 12 seasons?
Guess that shows the mark of a good show!
I know this is like The Simpsons 12th? season--has any other sitcom or drama consistently been this hot for a network for 12 seasons?
Guess that shows the mark of a good show!
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Well, Simpsons is currently number 10 or 11 in number of total episodes ever:
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/proutsy/
It's already beat out 90210, and all the other shows that have lasted longer are pretty old. For instance, Gunsmoke, #1 on the list, lasted 20 years (1955-1975) which was before I was born, so I have no idea of the popularity of that show or even if the ratings system is comparible to today's. (though it had to be pretty popular to last 20 years...)
Even shows that I would think should come close have already been eclipsed by Simpsons. Cheers lasted 11 years, and Happy Days and Married with Children only 10.
Of course the big benefit the Simpsons has is that they don't have to rotate the cast at all. No one gets any older, and so you don't have the kids growing up or the status quo changing.
But it makes it even more amazing that an animated series has lasted so long... especially because it debuted at a time when cartoons were considered only for children (the stigma still exists today, but there are now other primetime cartoons).
Unfortunately, the show is losing it's appeal, at least to me. People may say that it hasn't "jumped the shark" yet, but the past few seasons have been lackluster, and the episodes have really gotten zany.
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/proutsy/
It's already beat out 90210, and all the other shows that have lasted longer are pretty old. For instance, Gunsmoke, #1 on the list, lasted 20 years (1955-1975) which was before I was born, so I have no idea of the popularity of that show or even if the ratings system is comparible to today's. (though it had to be pretty popular to last 20 years...)
Even shows that I would think should come close have already been eclipsed by Simpsons. Cheers lasted 11 years, and Happy Days and Married with Children only 10.
Of course the big benefit the Simpsons has is that they don't have to rotate the cast at all. No one gets any older, and so you don't have the kids growing up or the status quo changing.
But it makes it even more amazing that an animated series has lasted so long... especially because it debuted at a time when cartoons were considered only for children (the stigma still exists today, but there are now other primetime cartoons).
Unfortunately, the show is losing it's appeal, at least to me. People may say that it hasn't "jumped the shark" yet, but the past few seasons have been lackluster, and the episodes have really gotten zany.
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Considering that some of the better shows FOX comes up with usually end up being canceled and whats left is either trailer trash eating competitions or "exciting" reality shows....
No, i'm not suprised its thier #1 show.
No, i'm not suprised its thier #1 show.
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Originally posted by fujishig
People may say that it hasn't "jumped the shark" yet, but the past few seasons have been lackluster, and the episodes have really gotten zany.
People may say that it hasn't "jumped the shark" yet, but the past few seasons have been lackluster, and the episodes have really gotten zany.
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The Simpsons in it's 14th season (tied with Ozzie & Harriet for longest running sitcom). I agree with some of the members here that the last 5 seasons have been disappointing to say the least.
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Originally posted by JuryDuty
I know this is like The Simpsons 12th? season--has any other sitcom or drama consistently been this hot for a network for 12 seasons?
I know this is like The Simpsons 12th? season--has any other sitcom or drama consistently been this hot for a network for 12 seasons?
But, yes, it is a rarity for a show to not only last this long, but also still get high ratings after all this time.
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Originally posted by fujishig
Unfortunately, the show is losing it's appeal, at least to me. People may say that it hasn't "jumped the shark" yet, but the past few seasons have been lackluster, and the episodes have really gotten zany.
Unfortunately, the show is losing it's appeal, at least to me. People may say that it hasn't "jumped the shark" yet, but the past few seasons have been lackluster, and the episodes have really gotten zany.
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Well this is different, now the show is wacky and at times unfunny. The characters I knew and loved have been dumbed down to shadows of their own selves. There's also too many "flavor of the month" guest stars (I almost turned off the TV when I saw N*SYNC make their self-congratulatory appearances).
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The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. It's the people watching that have changed.
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
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Originally posted by slop101
The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. It's the people watching that have changed.
The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. It's the people watching that have changed.
For those of you who still think The Simpsons are better than ever, I recommend you read the articles in this website.
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Different strokes, etc...
I'm still entertained by the Simpsons. Granted, for me, it seems like each season has at least one show that isn't "on". But i'll definitely keep watching.
I'm still entertained by the Simpsons. Granted, for me, it seems like each season has at least one show that isn't "on". But i'll definitely keep watching.
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Originally posted by slop101
The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. It's the people watching that have changed.
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. It's the people watching that have changed.
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
No I don't listen to/watch the same stuff i did 14 years ago....but that has nothing to do with the simple fact that writing on the show is lackluster compared to what it was in the past.
I have changed and so has "The Simpsons".
Once it was witty and funny, now its just Homer's cartoonish exploits with the token famous person guest appearance.
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The real question is this:
Is being the number 1 show on FOX mean as much as being the number one show on NBC? CBS? ABC?
Hard to tell. Fox never seems to be able to have more than a few hit shows at a time.
Is being the number 1 show on FOX mean as much as being the number one show on NBC? CBS? ABC?
Hard to tell. Fox never seems to be able to have more than a few hit shows at a time.
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Originally posted by fujishig
It's already beat out 90210, and all the other shows that have lasted longer are pretty old. For instance, Gunsmoke, #1 on the list, lasted 20 years (1955-1975) which was before I was born, so I have no idea of the popularity of that show or even if the ratings system is comparible to today's. (though it had to be pretty popular to last 20 years...)
It's already beat out 90210, and all the other shows that have lasted longer are pretty old. For instance, Gunsmoke, #1 on the list, lasted 20 years (1955-1975) which was before I was born, so I have no idea of the popularity of that show or even if the ratings system is comparible to today's. (though it had to be pretty popular to last 20 years...)
Last edited by Mark Holtz; 11-14-02 at 06:55 PM.
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Simply put, Simpson is running dry on materials.......
Just watch each new episodes and beware of what the episode start up talking about and what did the episode ended up focus on and you'll notice the writers are doing their best to come up with story to write.
Just watch each new episodes and beware of what the episode start up talking about and what did the episode ended up focus on and you'll notice the writers are doing their best to come up with story to write.
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Originally posted by Simpson Purist
For those of you who still think The Simpsons are better than ever, I recommend you read the articles in this website.
For those of you who still think The Simpsons are better than ever, I recommend you read the articles in this website.
I have seen the light and the inferiority of the latter Simpson episodes.
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Originally posted by slop101
The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. It's the people watching that have changed.
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. It's the people watching that have changed.
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
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Originally posted by JuryDuty
Wow--that's some interesting stuff. Well written and insightful. Is that your site?
Wow--that's some interesting stuff. Well written and insightful. Is that your site?
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Originally posted by Simpson Purist
I assume the people that are loving The Simpsons now are the same people that love such movies as Scary Movie, Pearl Harbor, XXX, and MIB2. Face it fellas, The Simpsons aren't as funny as it was 3-4 years ago.
For those of you who still think The Simpsons are better than ever, I recommend you read the articles in this website.
I assume the people that are loving The Simpsons now are the same people that love such movies as Scary Movie, Pearl Harbor, XXX, and MIB2. Face it fellas, The Simpsons aren't as funny as it was 3-4 years ago.
For those of you who still think The Simpsons are better than ever, I recommend you read the articles in this website.
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Originally posted by Simpson Purist
I assume the people that are loving The Simpsons now are the same people that love such movies as Scary Movie, Pearl Harbor, XXX, and MIB2.
I assume the people that are loving The Simpsons now are the same people that love such movies as Scary Movie, Pearl Harbor, XXX, and MIB2.
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Originally posted by slop101
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
Are you still into the same movies/music/etc. that you were into 14 years ago?
While Vapor Trails (2002) is vastly different than Hold Your Fire (1988), Rush are still making thoughtful, well put together albums. If the quality of their last release was similar to the current crop of Simpsons episodes, I would leave it on the shelf. Rush prove that you can change with the times without losing the spark that made things interesting in the first place. The Simpsons writers need to learn this lesson.
The Simpsons have lost the intelligent edge that made it the best show on TV. While they still have some good moments and some truly great lines, such as when Homer cried out that Kentucky Fried Panda was "finger ling-ling good", the characters have lost their focus.
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Originally posted by bboisvert
But, yes, it is a rarity for a show to not only last this long, but also still get high ratings after all this time.
But, yes, it is a rarity for a show to not only last this long, but also still get high ratings after all this time.