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Old 10-29-02 | 10:34 AM
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Just how long before a network pulls the plug on a new show?

I was wondering how long a TV series has to prove itself as a success or failure before the execs decide it isn't worth their time?

Some shows that I see leaving soon, or hope will leave are Girl's Club, and if it doesn't improve this week, Birds of Prey.
Old 10-29-02 | 11:47 AM
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Depends on a countless array of factors, including timeslot, cost of production, what else the network has that season, what's in the pipeline, counterprogramming, etc.

Some shows do great in the ratings but cost too much. Some shows don't fit an "image" or a nightly programming line-up. Some shows get horrible ratings but are renewed to avoid embarassment. And some shows are the highest rated original show in the network's history, the show that put the network on the map, and have a contract promising two more seasons, and still get canned (I'm looking at you, Bonnie).

It just depends on so many things, which in part explains (but doesn't justify) why great shows with good ratings sometimes get canned, and stupid shows with dismal ratings run for 7 seasons.

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Depends on a countless array of factors, including timeslot, cost of production, what else the network has that season, what's in the pipeline, counterprogramming, etc.
One other factor that you missed - how much the network has riding on the show. For example, on any other network if the brand name was not attached to the show, Star Trek: Lost in Space (AKA Voyager) would have died a painful yet quick death. UPN, knowing that this was its cash cow (and the only show they had that was in a position to draw ANY numbers whatsoever), kept the show on life support until it gained the user base it needed to survive on it's own.

If they had pulled the plug, I doubt that UPN would be around today.

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Old 10-29-02 | 01:19 PM
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Interesting. So, do you think there is a chance Fox might restrain itself from pulling the plug on Girl's Club simply because it's a David Kelly show and high profile for them?
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I remember that NBC had a very similar show to Girls Club called First Years that only lasted 3 episodes last season (or the season before).

I don't think FOX would hesitate to pull it, especially if BP's ratings are slipping. FOX would get better ratings with specials like When Animals attack Law Firms and their unrealistically hot associates.
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Some shows do great in the ratings but cost too much. Some shows don't fit an "image" or a nightly programming line-up. Some shows get horrible ratings but are renewed to avoid embarassment. And some shows are the highest rated original show in the network's history, the show that put the network on the map, and have a contract promising two more seasons, and still get canned (I'm looking at you, Bonnie).

It just depends on so many things, which in part explains (but doesn't justify) why great shows with good ratings sometimes get canned, and stupid shows with dismal ratings run for 7 seasons.

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I'm just wondering... what great shows with good ratings got dropped and what shows with dismal ratings ran for 7 years?
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• Quoth Dr. DVD •<HR SIZE=1>Interesting. So, do you think there is a chance Fox might restrain itself from pulling the plug on Girl's Club simply because it's a David Kelly show and high profile for them? <HR SIZE=1>


FOX usually has so many shows in the pipeline that they'll yank anything at any time and replace it with God knows what. Considering they yanked Ally due to poor ratings, and its replacement can't even get close to Ally at its worst, I don't expect it to hang around too long. If it were on CBS, they'd probably give it some time to catch on before ditching it. FOX, however, has an itchy trigger finger when it comes to this stuff.

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Originally posted by das Monkey
• Quoth Dr. DVD •<HR SIZE=1>Interesting. So, do you think there is a chance Fox might restrain itself from pulling the plug on Girl's Club simply because it's a David Kelly show and high profile for them? <HR SIZE=1>


FOX usually has so many shows in the pipeline that they'll yank anything at any time and replace it with God knows what. Considering they yanked Ally due to poor ratings, and its replacement can't even get close to Ally at its worst, I don't expect it to hang around too long. If it were on CBS, they'd probably give it some time to catch on before ditching it. FOX, however, has an itchy trigger finger when it comes to this stuff.

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no david called it quits on aly. i dont think fox had anything to do with it.

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