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lwhy? 10-15-02 09:19 AM

Smallville 10-15 "Red"
 
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lwhy? 10-15-02 09:22 AM

Here's my spoiler
Spoiler:
Clark's gets his class ring and the ring has a red kryptonite fragment in the stone. Red kryptonite has various effects on Clark, but this time he turns full-out bad boy hits his dad, makes out with Lana and then cheats on her.

FredC 10-15-02 01:25 PM

Isn't today's Episode "RED"? I thought Episodes for Season 2 are:
Vortex
Heat
Duplicity
Red

homeslice 10-15-02 02:37 PM

Yes, it's Red.

mikehunt 10-15-02 03:13 PM

based on the preview for last week, and without reading any spoilers yet
Spoiler:
doesn't the title Red really give it away? is it like the old superfriends cartoon when he had the green, red, blue (and wasn't there gold once?) kryptonite

Red Dog 10-15-02 03:18 PM

I don't watch this every week - this sounds like an interesting one to check out.

lwhy? 10-15-02 04:29 PM

Sorry, I changed the episode name to Red I meant to put that, but I cannot change the thread in the top title. Sorry.

Flay 10-15-02 04:42 PM


Originally posted by lwhy?
Sorry, I changed the episode name to Red I meant to put that, but I cannot change the thread in the top title. Sorry.
Well delete this thread and start a new one. It hasn't even gotten that far.

homeslice 10-15-02 04:52 PM

These threads are like Christmas advertisements. First they started just after thanksgiving, then before thanksgiving, now I'm seeing displays before Halloween.

Pretty soon, we'll have an official thread for every episode the moment the show's first announced.

Static Cling 10-15-02 07:43 PM


Originally posted by lwhy?
Sorry, I changed the episode name to Red I meant to put that, but I cannot change the thread in the top title. Sorry.
That's what moderators are for. :) Next time, feel free to drop us an e-mail, and we can fix thread titles.

Editing thread title for clarity.

Originally posted by homeslice
These threads are like Christmas advertisements. First they started just after thanksgiving, then before thanksgiving, now I'm seeing displays before Halloween.

Pretty soon, we'll have an official thread for every episode the moment the show's first announced.

I'm not sure what you feel the problem is. This episode airs tonight.

mikehunt 10-15-02 08:32 PM

:lol:
Spoiler:
the birthmark line was classic, especially since pete knew what was going on

TruGator 10-15-02 08:41 PM

Spoiler:
Clark is such a badass in this episode! He is really cool and pretty funny. "Anybody else!?" This may be my favorite Smallville episode.

JNielsen 10-15-02 08:55 PM


Originally posted by TruGator
Spoiler:
Clark is such a badass in this episode! He is really cool and pretty funny. "Anybody else!?" This may be my favorite Smallville episode.

I agree, great episode. I'm not sure if it beats the alternate ego Lana episode from last season though.

Flay 10-15-02 08:57 PM

I loved it!

Now Clark is going to have to deal with a 2nd Luthor.

Goldberg74 10-15-02 10:12 PM

Was it just me, or was I the only person watching who thought they heard Clark call Lex "Mike" when he was asking him for the keys to the Ferrari? I mean the guy that plays Lex is named "Mike," but for the editing team to leave that in is kinda weird.

This is the first episode I have seen this year* and it was really cool until...
Spoiler:
that cheezy effect of Pa Kent nailing the ring with the sledge hammer, that was bad! Really bad.


* I lost interest after the first seven episodes last season. There was too much to watch so something had to give.

madcougar 10-15-02 10:22 PM

Does Jeph Loeb write a lot of the episodes? I knew he was a consultant, but wasn't aware of the fact he actually wrote episodes.

nny 10-15-02 11:23 PM

I think this was actually his first scripted episode.

I know it's not in the budget, but if Clark's inhibitions were gone he wouldn't toss around a football on a x-box, he would toss around trees and learn to juggle cars, etc.

Max Fischer 10-15-02 11:46 PM


Originally posted by nny
I think this was actually his first scripted episode.

I know it's not in the budget, but if Clark's inhibitions were gone he wouldn't toss around a football on a x-box, he would toss around trees and learn to juggle cars, etc.

Actually it was a Gamecube.

CUBE BABY!

Arkonne 10-15-02 11:59 PM

I'm not sure I remember how the Lana goes apes*** episode ends, but why didn't they try to use the flower as an excuse for Clark's actions?

hahn 10-16-02 12:33 AM

was nobody else surprised at how big a leap the show took tonight?? (in terms of the clark/lana relationship) clark revealed a LOT about himself to lana and then acted VERY badly. he can't take it back and the trust between him and lana is forever broken. their relationship will never have the closeness it had before. you can already see it at the end. lana will never trust him again. and quite frankly i can't understand how he could let pete in on his secret (although it wasn't by choice) and NOT tell lana.

Static Cling 10-16-02 12:54 AM


Originally posted by hahn
was nobody else surprised at how big a leap the show took tonight?? (in terms of the clark/lana relationship) clark revealed a LOT about himself to lana and then acted VERY badly. he can't take it back and the trust between him and lana is forever broken. their relationship will never have the closeness it had before. you can already see it at the end. lana will never trust him again. and quite frankly i can't understand how he could let pete in on his secret (although it wasn't by choice) and NOT tell lana.
I dunno, it feels like more of the same to me. The recurring theme/convo between Lana & Clark has been:

Clark: "Lana, I can't tell you about _______."
Lana: "Friends don't keep secrets, Clark."

And it was just to a greater extreme tonight.

On the TWoP forums and recaps, they keep on talking about the homosexual subtext between characters on Smallville. And man, tonight, the HoYay! was over the top. Clark & Lex running away with each other to the city, to escape the town that was too small for them, that didn't understand them? Sheesh. :)

There was one scene in which Chloe and Lana were talking about Lana's "date," and it was so awkwardly shot... they had zoomed in so close, and Lana kept moving... and so for Chloe not to be left out of the shot, she had to keep moving awkwardly close to Lana every time Lana moved. Made it seem like Chloe was a "close talker." Or more HoYay!, depending on how you wanted to interpret it.

the_dude8 10-16-02 01:06 AM

CK was a bad A$$ in this episode. the kiss between CK and LL was good.

immortal_zeus 10-16-02 02:52 AM

I thought this episode was hilarious. I :lol: at a lot of Clark's comments that he made, especially the ones to Lana.

Paraphrasing:

"Don't worry Lana, I havn't taken my eyes off you all day."

"I'll save the return ride for you."

Pete's reactions to Clark's lines were pretty hilarious too. :lol:

The ending where Jonathan smashed Clark's ring was lame, though.

I expected them to have Clark explain his weird actions to everybody (namely Lex, Lana, and Chloe), but I guess not. :confused:

I don't think Clark's actions have totally screwed up his and Lana's relationship (though it's certainly been set back). Sure, he hurt her, but it's not like they were boyfriend-girlfriend anyway. If Clark can ever explain what the hell caused his personality to change so radically (like telling her he was coked up or something :p), maybe Lana would be more forgiving as well. We're only in the 2nd season, so Clark and Lana's relationship can't be totally screwed up forever this early in the show. :D

I also like how Lana and Chloe are getting to be buds and are opening up to each other (sort of) about how they feel about Clark. If Clark plays his cards right, he might be able to get them to have a menage a trois. :D:p

Question regarding next week's preview:
Spoiler:
Is it just me, or did that dude that was macking on Lana look like he was a vampire or had some kind of vampirish vibe to him?


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Patman 10-16-02 05:37 AM

I thought last night's episode was good fun. There are many LOL lines by Clark, and also by Pete's reaction to them. You could tell that Tom Welling had a good time with the Bad Boy Clark persona.

This episode did allow the writers to create some emotional distance between Clark and Lana - but with repercussions for Clark's relationship with Lana (otherwise, the writers had nowhere else to go unless they move one of out of the way artificially, the same way they might write Chloe out). The minor plus side for Clark is that he did get to kiss Lana by his choice (though I'm not sure he remembered much of it after the ring/redrock was shattered by Pa Kent.

Lionel Luthor might figure out what happened (he did have the 3 bullets that Clark shot into his hand). Have to love the way Clark used Lionel's blindness as a shield for not exposing his super powers while being in front of him. Of course, if any non-regular character finds out Clark's super powers, you can bank on that character dying by the end of the episode/arc.

Good to see Lex grow a spine towards Lionel as a result of Clark's new/temporary brazen attitude.

For those that didn't know, this episode's writer, Jeff Loebs, is a comic book writer who's done work on the Superman comics, so he was well suited to write an episode around the 1st appearance of red kryptonite. I think Loebs did a fine job for his first crack at a Smallville script.

This show just keeps getting more and more entertaining week by week.

Soybean 10-16-02 08:46 AM

Ah! Thanks for that note about Jeff Loebs. That was nice to know.

It was a pretty good episode. I'm wondering now how Mr. Kent's gonna get himself out of his Lana predicament.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: That much hotness would get me to reveal my powers to anyone. Anyone.


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