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Enterprise 10/9
What a great episode. I really like this show now; it's coming into its own. Very well done plot (though the touchscreen 'order' system was a little weird to me). But the scene at the end was really very creepy/cool.
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i liked the ending. I hope star fleet hasnt made a new enemy...! ;)
BTW some people last week were groaning that they 'happend' upon a repair station after getting the damage. Well its more realistic because they did put out a distress call for 3 days. |
catch that Roxann Dawson was the computer voice?
Spoiler:
when the Tellarites were mentioned I was hoping to see their new and improved makeup |
A 3 day distress call makes it "more realistic"? Um, ok...
I did think it was cool that Roxann Dawson was the voice and she directed. And I agree about the ending. Other than that...Blah. I'm not necessarily an Enterprise basher, but next ep looks even worse. -rolleyes- |
next week has "voyager patented reset button" written all over it
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That repair station was an early borg! It needed organic parts to run, it keep making demands, like comply, and so on.
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GREAT episode--the first one I've really liked in a while. Yea!
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Yes, I think most of us caught the Borg reference. Not very subtle. But then B&B rarely are these days.
Aren't the Borg supposed to be more sophisticated than that even during Ent's time period? Guinan's people should have already been wiped out by them at that point, or close to it. |
Eric F--I agree. I thought they should have stopped after they pulled the cords out of Mayweather. I didn't like how they had a big discussion about the technology that had been infused into him. Wasn't needed.
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Not impressed as usual.
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• Quoth Jason • -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But if the Borg ever do show up, I'm outta there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Season 3 cliffhanger ... you heard it here first. das To be fair, this was definitely one of the better episodes of the show's run. I don't think Sussman & Strong are the greatest writing team, but they clearly can tell a better story than B&B, even though they're holdovers from the final season of <I>Voyager</I>. Combine that with Roxie Dawson, who is proving to be a very capable director, and you get a pretty soild episode. It shows that there's potential in the cast and story if you could just get those two jackasses to keep their hands off. If I recall, the next 4 episodes are stained by them ... yay. -rolleyes- das |
Originally posted by Rogue588 A 3 day distress call makes it "more realistic"? Um, ok... I’m still waiting for the first crew death. I think B&B have mandated that they don’t want to use the Red Shirts because that’s a dead [pardon the pun] giveaway. Since only Red Shirts die… You blow up a good portion of the ship (where all the windows are!!) and nobody dies. Uh huh. Liked this one a lot. I would have liked the computer to suggest that their first offering of “compensation” was not enough, and Archer had to dicker with it for a moment. Archer: Jeez, now I’m haggling with a computer. (Looks at N’Pol for sympathy; gets none.) Look at all the opportunities they (the writers) had to “cheat” on technology, giving grief to those few of us who still care about continuity. The replicators are a perfect example. They didn’t beg, borrow, or steal the technology. Site-to-site transport was used, but they’re still scared of the transporters, so I guess they wouldn’t look for upgrades. Lotsa stuff, and they only wanted OEM replacement parts. Porthos :up: |
I agree that it's one of the better eps so far. I also like that they have the continuity of needed repairs. The bit about the scratch from a year ago was pretty funny, too. I think it was meant to bring to mind the Borg, but not be early borg technology or anything. Like Eric F mentioned, the Borg are supposed to be around already, just way out in space. And there was no collective or shared thoughts or anything.
And strangely enough, this ep was more like an episode of The X Files than the last one, which was written by the prev. X-File writer. Strange, unexplained things going on, people try to stop it, eventually do stop it but don't find proof or the root of the prob, then the ending is kinda creepy, tobecontinuedesque. Next week looks good...for me to poop on. |
I didn't see the preview for next week. Anyone want to fill me in (with spoiler tags, of course ;) )?
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Originally posted by Bandoman I didn't see the preview for next week. Anyone want to fill me in (with spoiler tags, of course ;) )? Spoiler:
P. S. If you go here you can watch some video about next episode as well as read a synopsis. Ironically, it's not near as spicy as they showed in the previews... |
Originally posted by JuryDuty Ironically, it's not near as spicy as they showed in the previews... Spoiler:
Last week, we were lead to believe that somebody would actually die in this ep. -rolleyes- |
The ending was an odd one, but the whole future guy plot is sinister and dark. There weren't many TNG episodes to end like that, but quite a few DS9 episodes towards the end of its run were like that. Especially that Federation cabal thing, I forget the name of the spy organization.
The only TNG overly creepy episodes were the two alien invasion ones from the first season (the one where they immolate the guy and the alien queen bursts out of Merrick's corpse:)), and that episode from the last season where Barkley turns into a spider. The first Borg episodes were kind of creepy but 1st Contact and Voyager dilluted them by adding a Queen. |
Originally posted by Eric F The only TNG overly creepy episodes were the two alien invasion ones from the first season (the one where they immolate the guy and the alien queen bursts out of Merrick's corpse:)), and that episode from the last season where Barkley turns into a spider. |
Actually the ending's not so odd once you realize that the writers at "Enterprise" will most likely never bring this spontaneously regenerating repair facility back up in a future episode. That's the new Trek "way."
I mean - what do mysterious, creepy, human-brain powered matter-energy converters have to do with showing "N'Pol's" sweaty ta-ta's? Speaking of boobs, Mayweather had a pretty decent pair last night - wouldn't you say? |
Originally posted by grunter Speaking of boobs, Mayweather had a pretty decent pair last night - wouldn't you say? OK. Equal time and all. But, still... ( :lol: ) |
I'm not saying Mayweather's "headlights" were particularly attractive or anything.
I'm just saying: man, they were a couple handfuls over being just "pecs." |
Originally posted by Wizdar And any episode with Wesley. ;) Originally posted by grunter Actually the ending's not so odd once you realize that the writers at "Enterprise" will most likely never bring this spontaneously regenerating repair facility back up in a future episode. That's the new Trek "way." |
Originally posted by Rogue588 I'm still waiting to see what that homing beacon from TNG's first season ep Conspiracy brings... Maybe if Nemesis does well, Star Trek: Invasion could follow? |
A little OT but I doubt we'll see another ST movie with the TNG cast. It would have to do really well, like ST IV well.
My expectations are fairly low for this one. |
To the complete contrary, I expect it to be very good and the first in a 3 part trilogy to end the TNG franchise.
das |
Originally posted by das Monkey To the complete contrary, I expect it to be very good and the first in a 3 part trilogy to end the TNG franchise. das You really think that there will be 2 more TNG movies after Nemesis? I thought this was supposed to be the last one? If there are more down the road, do you think they'll bring back Spock to close out the Federation-Romulan rivalry (sort of a sequel to Reunification) much like the Federation-Klingon rivalry was closed at the end of the TOS movies? |
It should've been a giveaway that something was up when a station that could replicate the Warp Plasma if it needed it was asking for Warp Plasma in a trade.
Could they have hit us over the head with the Borg thing any more? It was okay, and actually a pretty damn neat episode, until they started yammering about that little implant thing at the end of the episode. |
Originally posted by das Monkey To the complete contrary, I expect it to be very good and the first in a 3 part trilogy to end the TNG franchise. :p |
Now we're into a TNG movie thread. :p
I'll start one in the Movie forums. |
Originally posted by das Monkey ...to end the TNG franchise. ;) -ptth- I think it's pushing it a bit claiming that there's obvious Borg references. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they thought they were coming up with a new twist on things. (-eek-) The theme was automation, not Collective. Consider that the writers are totally clueless. Fer instance: Enterprise’s computer took up three decks. Taking the current computer evolution liner-wise (as opposed to exponential-wise, as in the past), a computer that big a coupla hundred years from now should be able to run the whole universe. They tried to counterpoint the difference between that and the brain (human or otherwise). It’s and old, old story, dating back to B&W “Outer Limits” and 60s Sci-Fi days. But, if they had used their imagination (of which they have none), they would have realized that by then computers will have surpassed the biological brain by an order of magnitude. The Borg are almost completely biological. The repair station is quite the opposite. |
Pretty sure the Ent-D has a computer core that's multiple decks tall
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Originally posted by Eric F A little OT but I doubt we'll see another ST movie with the TNG cast. It would have to do really well, like ST IV well. My expectations are fairly low for this one. And I'd have to agree with bboisvert;) |
Finally watched this one and I was amazed it didn't suck. It wasn't a great episode (if it was TNG or DS9 it would have been a so-so ep) but for Enterprise it was pretty good.
Finally, they have an original idea and they don't use some alien race from the other series while trashing continuity. Finally, they have an epsidoe that illustrates how they lack technology. It was refreshing to see Enterprise damaged heavily at the end of the last episode and actually spend an epsidoe showing how they deal with it. The space station was a cool idea and I like how they never really explained the whole thing, but kept it kind of mysterious. I have been a big detractor of Enterprise, but I think they are off to a better start this season. This was a good episode and I also really enjoyed the Vulcan in the 50's episode (even though that one kind of trashed continuity, but it was still kind of fun.) |
The fix-it station felt a bit Borg-like to me. Maybe a precursor of things to come.
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Was it me, or was that iris door prop the same one Ridley Scott used in Alien? Not a dig at them, just an observation. If I was Archer, I’d a been scared to crawl through that thing. I guess I just don’t trust machines.
Oh yeah. I liked this one too. Phlox’s “He’s dead.” line was so well delivered. |
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