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Old 05-16-02 | 03:34 PM
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Why was Greg the Bunny canned?

Those mother f@#%ers!
Old 05-16-02 | 03:49 PM
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andy is cool but i'd rather have undeclared which apparently had better ratings.

anyone heard of the new show on sunday? whats is supposed to be about.
Old 05-16-02 | 03:50 PM
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Why was Greg the Bunny canned?

Those mother f@#%ers!

I never watched Greg the Bunny (although I have a general idea of what kind of show that it was) but it seems to me that FOX executives would fail even if they had the powerhouse shows that NBC had in the 80s. They are lousy at pairing up sitcoms.

Pairing up Bernie Mac with Titus and then Greg the Bunny never made sense to me. They are very different kinds of sitcoms. Bernie Mac did well but to expect watchers of that show to hang around for either Titus or GTB seems unrealistic.
Old 05-16-02 | 03:53 PM
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also, i'm a 24 fan, but i doubt they can bring it back for another season and keep the story good. serials tend to have lower ratings anyway so its not that good of a business decision although i heard a rumor that it wont be a serial in the fall, dont know if thats true.


but i'm willing to give up 24 for family guy and undeclared or even greg the bunny
Old 05-16-02 | 03:55 PM
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No big deal to me as I only watch Fox on Sundays and That 70's Show on Tuesdays. I'll probably start watching Andy Richter, as it seems to be a favorite around here
Old 05-16-02 | 04:06 PM
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Well, at least Futurama is still in the lineup. If they actually cancel that I'll never watch FOX again.

Oh, and the Simpsons jumped the shark at least two years ago. Time for that sorry show to bite the dust.


Agreed.


Expect the 2 years ago thing. 2 years ago? more like 4.

That "musical" season was pretty....ehhh, things didnt improve much after that.
Old 05-16-02 | 04:07 PM
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I never watched Greg the Bunny (although I have a general idea of what kind of show that it was) but it seems to me that FOX executives would fail even if they had the powerhouse shows that NBC had in the 80s. They are lousy at pairing up sitcoms.

Pairing up Bernie Mac with Titus and then Greg the Bunny never made sense to me. They are very different kinds of sitcoms. Bernie Mac did well but to expect watchers of that show to hang around for either Titus or GTB seems unrealistic.

true. greg teh bunny should be paired with something like family guy or andy ricter or undeclared. i think bernie mac could have worked with malcolm. fox doestn have too many family type shows so it kinda sticks out as a sore thumb
Old 05-16-02 | 04:13 PM
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true. greg teh bunny should be paired with something like family guy or andy ricter or undeclared. i think bernie mac could have worked with malcolm. fox doestn have too many family type shows so it kinda sticks out as a sore thumb

I agree. GTB would have fit well with Family Guy. BM would have been an excellent fit with Malcolm.

Titus used to be paired with That 70s Show - it was a good combo and they both got decent ratings. Then they decided to switch things up for some reason.
Old 05-16-02 | 04:48 PM
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Am I the only one who's a bit worried about the line about the retooling of Andy Richter Controls the Universe? I'm afraid that they're gonna try and make it another stupid sitcom(watch them add a laugh track). Hopefully they'll air the episodes in proper order in the future.
Old 05-16-02 | 05:47 PM
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I'm furious, and extremely saddened. I LOVED Greg the Bunny, and I really liked That 80's Show toward the end. They had just started to find their stride - the dynasty bitch character was much funnier for Sophia. Greg was hilarious from the start - d@mn fox.

As to Dark Angel, I agree with Chad:
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[B]Just because Fox gave it a crappy timeslot is no reason for cancellation. It's a good show that deserves much better.
I said it before and I'll say it again - while I too disliked the monster of the week formula they used in season 2, I really liked the overarching story and am extremely pissed I'll never know how it was supposed to end. I won't go into details here (wrong thread for them) but suffice it to say I REALLY want to know how Max's dna fit into the breeding cult's plan.

Originally posted by Chad Six great shows flushed down the Fox toilet. Hopefully other networks will pick these up? Sci-Fi would be a great place for Dark Angel, while UPN or WB could pick up the remaining five...I mean it's not like they couldn't use the ratings.
Again I agree with Chad - I sincerely hope that someone picks up Greg the Bunny, Dark Angel, and That 80's Show. I didn't watch the others, but they probably deserve picking up, too.

D@mn Fox. Now I'm down to only 24 and That 70's Show. I may watch Firefly - but I'm so sick and tired of Fox pulling the rug out from under shows I love or like that I feel it's a waste of time to get attached to a new one. Harsh Realm, Lone Gunmen, Dark Angel, That 80's Show, Greg the Bunny - all of these (and many more I'm sure) in recent memory cry out to be picked up and given a real chance to thrive.

Congratulations, Fox - you've succeeded in driving away even more viewers, me included.
Old 05-16-02 | 07:58 PM
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Futurama

Originally posted by bboisvert
FUTURAMA

Errr... haven't they already cancelled it? Maybe I'm out of the loop, but my understanding was that it is still on the schedule, but they are only showing episodes that have already been completed -- but just never aired. I think they've shut down production on the show and handed out pink slips. Right?!?
That's what I keep reading. A few people have mentioned it in here too.
I've read that there's about a half season's worth of episodes done or near completion. If that's true, I'd prefer they use it as a mid season replacement so it won't be pre-empted by the NFL (or worse-j.i.p). It would also allow it at least a chance at getting some ratings.
Old 05-16-02 | 08:32 PM
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The ratings for Greg the Bunny were actually pretty good for Fox. It's like them to cancel it though.
Old 05-16-02 | 09:11 PM
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Ah, 24 will be back for another day in the life of Jack Bauer This is good enough news for me.
Old 05-16-02 | 09:36 PM
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I don't know about that. They've really bounced back this season. Last week's episode was a first: a Lisa episode that was actually funny!
The Hockey episode was kind of a Lisa episode and that's one of the best ever!
Old 05-16-02 | 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Venusian
also, i'm a 24 fan, but i doubt they can bring it back for another season and keep the story good. serials tend to have lower ratings anyway so its not that good of a business decision although i heard a rumor that it wont be a serial in the fall, dont know if thats true.

I'm hoping Jack doesn't find out who the mole is until sometime mid next season.
Old 05-16-02 | 11:13 PM
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I just don't get what this new season of 24 is going to be about. It was billed as 24 hours in the life of Jack Bauer. Are they going to now change the name of the show to 48? Besides once they wrap up this plot next Tuesday, what more are they gonna do? Are they gonna invent some new plot against somebody else? I say, live and let die. 24 is a great show that did very well the entire year, but now it's time for it to go into oblivion (or reruns). Nothing more can be done with the premise, so it's time to sit down and create a new show now.
Old 05-16-02 | 11:27 PM
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YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought I was going to regret going into this thread, because it seemed like this would be the confirming measure that Andy Richter had been cancelled (it's tied with Ed as my favorite current show) When I read that it's gonna be coming back, I exclaimed a "YES!!!" out loud! This has been a good week for good TV viewing
Old 05-16-02 | 11:56 PM
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Glad to see 24 and Malcolm are back...though I don't know WHAT they'll do for 24 that can match this season...
Old 05-17-02 | 02:10 AM
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Undeclared was the funniest show on Fox. This sucks.
Old 05-17-02 | 06:42 PM
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I'm bummed about "Undeclared" too but I knew it was toast so it's not a shock, FOX never even gave that program a chance to succeed.

But at least "Futurama" and "Andy Richter" have some hope left; not a lot, because FOX is too busy pimping David Kelley's femme lawyer crap, but at least some...

And have all those who say "Simpsons" jumped the shark even been watching it? The last 2-3 episodes have been as solid as any in years, IMHO...
Old 05-17-02 | 11:42 PM
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Rather than cancelling good shows like Undeclared, FOX should cancel it's entire scheduling team. They are clueless!!!

*meow*
Old 05-18-02 | 02:13 AM
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I'm happy that '24' is coming back.
Same here. I'm just curious as to what the next 24 is going to be. Continuation of this season? New story and characters? Whatever it is I'll still watch it.
Old 05-18-02 | 04:38 AM
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Futurama: There are, in fact, closer to two complete seasons worth of shows in the can. FOX let the staff go because they're not going to order anymore shows until they've aired all the ones they already have. The show is not officially canceled and, given Matt Groening's clout and the fact that he clearly cares more about Futurama than the Simpsons at this point, it may actually have a chance of being 'officially' picked up again after next season.

And yeah, you're probably right. The Simpsons jumped the shark at least 4 years ago.
Old 05-18-02 | 05:03 AM
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And have all those who say "Simpsons" jumped the shark even been watching it? The last 2-3 episodes have been as solid as any in years, IMHO...
Yeah, and i haven't been very impressed. The recent Lisa episode was pretty good but a few good episodes in a season do not make a great season. A baseball team that wins a few games in a season does not make them the champions (see Cubs)


Besides, this series has become inconsistent as far as its "animated laws". On the one side its fairly consistent to how things were set up orginally. Maude Flander died and she didnt come back, this remains consistent to the laws set up in the begining (see commentary track on the babysitter episode from the 1st season). People cannot come back to life and people who get injured usually stay injured. Homer, on the other hand, has become nothing but a cartoon charater. At the expense of the "realism" in the show he is allowed to do many thing that would otherwise kill other charaters.
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Well....

<small>
Originally posted by ChrisHicks
[ ....] the prolific Whedon took it upon himself to pen a new pilot script that impressed FOX executives enough to go with "Firefly" instead. A new one-hour pilot will be shot with the previous two-hour pilot being repurposed for later in the season. [....]
</small>.... that move worked for Star Trek (TOS) if I recall my history correctly


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