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Old 04-10-02 | 12:03 AM
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I. Love. This. Show.

- "Most importantly, they have misjudged me." Get some, Palmer! And while you're at it, get rid of Lady McPalmer. UGH!

- While we're on the Palmers... is it possible that Lisa wasn't even raped? She had a thing against Faux?Rapist, she framed him for rape, Keith killed him, and she's been harboring guilt over Faux?Rapist's death ever since. And it finally came to a head tonight, and she melted down. IMO, this would be a neat twist from the writers. Lisa's rape is one of the things that we have known to be "true" since the very start of the show. Maybe it's not? Anyways, I'm just glad Lisa didn't get amnesia.

- "You have the right to remain silent." *BLAM!* "POLICE!" YES! That was awesome. Didn't see the bust coming at all. Please, lock up Dan's brother for a long time... his acting was criminal.

- Get some, SoulPatch! Tony kicks ass. Too bad Nina so owns him. I thought Teri was a goner for sure. I knew Dr. Phil was hosed... I just didn't think they'd wait until the end of the show.

- So the horrible people behind Palmer's campaign are... local LA businessmen?! That's it?!? Damn. I was thinking Majestic-12, or the Illuminati, or something like that.

- Mason = bringin' the funny. "Great, we're going to a Sierra Club meeting." And watching Kief vault the fence, and then stepping over the chain... great.

- Great transition, going from Teri in Kim's bright room listening to LiteAlternative music... cut to the dark, dank, DorkCave, with NotSoHeavyAlternative music blaring.
Old 04-10-02 | 12:10 AM
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This is all speculation, but....

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I think the underground bunker is some government prison. The bad guys were trying to get the power cut off in order to rescue Hopper's character.


Why is Kim still alive?

"I'm begining to think that coming here wasn't such a good idea." No F***ING duh!
Old 04-10-02 | 12:54 AM
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As far as Tony getting from CTU to Jack's house so quickly, I distinctly remember Jack making the drive in nearly no time at all in the very first episode when they were still trying to stick to the real time premise of the show. They still do a roughly good job at this. But these locations are indeed in awfully close proximity..

Where's Milo? When was the last time he did something?

This better come out on DVD...
Old 04-10-02 | 01:24 AM
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i think mason is too obvious to be a mole
yeah, that would be pretty lame. this episode kind of set him up to be acting pretty suspicious, but i think it'd be funny if they just carried on with him acting a little goofy and clueless.
Old 04-10-02 | 04:09 AM
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24 rocks!!!

Any news on whats happening in terms of finishing all 24 episodes?

Are they part of this season? Read something about its not a definate it'll be continued (it will be hard to do it imho, but ..)..

is 11 pm to midnight the last show in this season?
Old 04-10-02 | 04:25 AM
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Anybody know if they are going to re-air this episode? I friggin missed it this week, damn_friend staying with me keeping me distracted!
Old 04-10-02 | 07:42 AM
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In regards to the 4 minute drive, if you are driving in a marked or unmarked car with the lights and/or sirens going, you can pretty much make a large distance in 4 minutes as long as everyone yields to you.

This episode will be replayed 4/15 at 1AM and 11 PM on FX.

Here's the only thing I've heard about the season finale so far, but it will be 11PM-12AM.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...vision_24_dc_2
Old 04-10-02 | 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by ravan
24 rocks!!!

Any news on whats happening in terms of finishing all 24 episodes?

Are they part of this season? Read something about its not a definate it'll be continued (it will be hard to do it imho, but ..)..

is 11 pm to midnight the last show in this season?
it will finish this season. i'm guessing in May as part of sweeps. There is talk about another season, but thats in another thread
Old 04-10-02 | 08:28 AM
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This episode bugged me...and I can't quite put my finger on it.

Pure speculation:

Going by the proposed theory from a previos post - Does anyone else think that by cutting the power on that specific grid, the
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Dennis Hopper
character gets set free from some holding facility in the grid that the guy was supposed to shut off?

Could this just be a series of misdirections by the Drazen family to get the
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Hopper
character set free? (Of course, nothing goes right for the Drazen family for the past 18 hours). That Palmer and Jack are also there for "easy" pickings might have just been a bonus for the revenge-minded family.

Why couldn't Tony be a few seconds late in getting the Jack's house. Terri bugs the hell out of me. At least the part where the would-be assassin asking Terri where Kim is was realistic (to cut down on his search time), that bought Terri just enough time for Tony to mow him down. Poor Phil, we barely knew ya...

I'm guessing Kim gets her one phone call, and that how CTU will get her out of jail, and re-united with Terri. I can't believe how stupid Kim is being written.

Is Mason really a traitor or just pissed at Jack for shooting him last night? Makes you wonder if he isn't just leading Jack to slaughter. When Mason offered to drive Jack to the address, I was thinking, "No Jack, don't get in the car!" But, Jack did, and I was rolling my eyes.

The whole Palmer subplot is so uncompelling to me. How many times in a day can you hug your son after he repeatedly wants to sink your run for the presidency? This is not over the course of weeks, but one frikkin' day! I do enjoy the shenanigans of Lady McPalmer though, she does bring the conflict into play.

I dunno...this episode just left me with the "ehhh" reaction, followed by the "ughhh" reaction (when Terri was saved by Tony).

But, I'll be there for the final 5 episodes, so they must be doing something right.

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Old 04-10-02 | 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Static Cling
- So the horrible people behind Palmer's campaign are... local LA businessmen?! That's it?!? Damn. I was thinking Majestic-12, or the Illuminati, or something like that.
Damn straight, Static Cling. And just last week I predicted we'd never really know who these men are. Maybe this is a whole reprise of Chinatown?

I love Mason. I don't think he's a mole; just a jerk. But they certainly wanted you to be a little scared for Jack as they seemed to be in the middle of nowhere. I also like how Mason seems suspicious that the Drazens want to spend all this money just on revenge.

Madcougar-- excellent speculation! But now I may have been spoiled.

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Old 04-10-02 | 09:00 AM
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There hadn't been any real surprises in the past few episodes, so I didn't expect any in this one. That said,
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I was surprised to see the ecstasy dealers turn out to be narcs
. That was a nice touch.
Old 04-10-02 | 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by guildda
As far as Tony getting from CTU to Jack's house so quickly, I distinctly remember Jack making the drive in nearly no time at all in the very first episode when they were still trying to stick to the real time premise of the show. They still do a roughly good job at this. But these locations are indeed in awfully close proximity..
I remembered that too - it really didn't take him any time to get from home to CTU. You have to admit though Tony showing up like that and finally getting to kick some ass and take names was AWESOME!

Originally posted by guildda
Where's Milo? When was the last time he did something?
Isn't he off playing the "devil" who gives the guy the minivan in those car commericals?

Originally posted by Venusian
but then that leads to...why would he let her go back to her house if he thinks jack did it?
No offense dude, but if you paid more attention to the show instead of yacking your running commentary during the airing of the episode you might know half the answers to these things. He was hoping to bring her home so that maybe seeing things there might help her break out of her amnesia.

Speaking of which, this was my biggest problem with the episode. Maybe this is an L.A. thing, but the cops do not come to MY house when my burglar alarm goes off, shut it off from a panel inside the house and then go "check the connections around the house"! Is the L.A.P.D. on the Lo-Jack and ADT payroll now?

Originally posted by Venusian
i think mason is too obvious to be a mole
Except for the two "tip offs" (which if they are red herrings the producers SUCK!):
-the sinister music they played when Jack spoke to Mason and turned to him
-the "step over the chain" thing Mason did at the fence like he'd been there before.

Remember that he was a pain in the beginning - Jack tranquilized him. He could very well be "higher up" guy Jack knows must be in CTU. Who else have we met that it could be except his old boss who said that Jamie could be trusted?
Old 04-10-02 | 09:47 AM
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did the guy shoot em with tranquilizers or bullets? the doc was moving around on the ground after tony walked in. atleast that ends the amnesia plot line.
I noticed that the assassin shot the doctor in the shoulder. He went back and re-shot the bodyguard dude (to make sure he was dead) and he was about to re-shoot the doctor, when he saw Teri in the other room.

My guess is he's still alive. When the assassin first got shot, I thought it was the doctor before they revealed it to be Tony.

The drug raid was a nice twist. I did not see that coming at all.

I guess they have already established that Jack lives very close to CTU.

I am surprised that the alarm going off in the house wouldn't trigger a call to CTU. You would think they would be monitoring that kind of activity, especially with his family missing. But Tony & Nina seem like the only people at CTU at all concerned with the safehouse massacre.
Old 04-10-02 | 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by Geofferson
There hadn't been any real surprises in the past few episodes, so I didn't expect any in this one. That said,
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I was surprised to see the ecstasy dealers turn out to be narcs
. That was a nice touch.
That's the first thing I thought of when they showed up. I don't know why, but I just did.

Overall, a pretty good episode. Like everyone says, there are a lot of minor mistakes, but this is television.
Old 04-10-02 | 09:56 AM
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No offense dude, but if you paid more attention to the show instead of yacking your running commentary during the airing of the episode you might know half the answers to these things. He was hoping to bring her home so that maybe seeing things there might help her break out of her amnesia.

Speaking of which, this was my biggest problem with the episode. Maybe this is an L.A. thing, but the cops do not come to MY house when my burglar alarm goes off, shut it off from a panel inside the house and then go "check the connections around the house"! Is the L.A.P.D. on the Lo-Jack and ADT payroll now?
Dude, maybe you should pay more attention to the show too. If you did, you would have seen that those guys who came to the Bauer house were not LAPD, they were from the security company.
Old 04-10-02 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by rfduncan
Except for the two "tip offs" (which if they are red herrings the producers SUCK!):
-the sinister music they played when Jack spoke to Mason and turned to him
-the "step over the chain" thing Mason did at the fence like he'd been there before.
I don't think the "step over the chain" thing Mason did means that he'd been there before. All it would take is him looking down, seeing the the chain, and stepping over. It doesn't require previous knowledge of the site.
Old 04-10-02 | 10:35 AM
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Dude, maybe you should pay more attention to the show too. If you did, you would have seen that those guys who came to the Bauer house were not LAPD, they were from the security company.
Old 04-10-02 | 12:41 PM
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More speculation:

This is not from me:

Spoiler:
Dennis Hopper plays Victor Drazen.
Are the wheels in your mind spinning now?
Old 04-10-02 | 02:46 PM
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I wonder:

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Is there more to "Dr. Phil" than he is letting on? How come he can suddenly have someone with a gun show up at Terri's house? He was starting to look sinister before all hell broke out and Tony saved them. I think he's still alive, and he is either a government agent (not CTU) or someone investigating Jack prior to the whole Palmer assassination plot.
Old 04-13-02 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by rfduncan


Isn't he off playing the "devil" who gives the guy the minivan in those car commericals?

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A quote from the yahoo article that is linked in this thread about the season finale: It's like the ending of 'The Sixth Sense,"'
They are all dead and playing the terorist game in the afterlife!

As for the show, quick remarks:

- I also wish they would've killed Terry.
- The drug scene was awesome.
- I doubt that Mason is the mole since he is too obvious. The "step over the chain" scene was one of the best of the episode imo, showing the difference in style and also implicit disapproval that Mason has for Bauer's methods.
Old 04-15-02 | 10:00 PM
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DAMN IT!!!! It's supposed to be reairing right now on FX, but they're showing some stupid police chase SH** instead! What the F***? Even the Digital Cable thing says 24's supposed to be on!!!



ARGGGGGHHH!!! This makes 2 I've missed
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Sorry man.. according to tvguide.com, they're in the midst of a Police Video's marathon. My cable also claims 24 is on though..
Old 04-15-02 | 11:58 PM
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DAMN IT!!!! It's supposed to be reairing right now on FX, but they're showing some stupid police chase SH** instead! What the F***? Even the Digital Cable thing says 24's supposed to be on!!!



ARGGGGGHHH!!! This makes 2 I've missed

THis was my first and I waited all week to go tape the re-air at a friend's place.

I thought last night too......but it was not on then at Midnight central time.

Oh well just read through all this sh*t.

There's enough to fill us in.

Drug bust with Kim in jail.

Doctor killed and Terri saved by Tony.

Great speech by Palmer.
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Originally posted by Frank TJ Mackey
Doctor killed and Terri saved by Tony.
Actually, I'm not sure if Dr. PhilGood got killed, or just winged. The killer shot Phil's friend, then Phil, then shot Phil's friend again (killing him, it looks like), and then was threatening Teri when Mr. Soulpatch saved the day. If I remember right, Phil's shot was in the shoulder.

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