That is simply a nice way of putting it. A soul is not your personality, it is not your being. A soul is what guides you to do what is right. It what makes you care. When a vampire turns a human, they give the human demon blood, demon powers, and a demon soul. They get the body... but that body contains everything. It contains your memories, and your genetic urges.... and it is those two things who make you who you are.

So a vampire is you, but with power, the desire to kill, and the ability not to care.

That is why a vampire is considered to be a different person. If I underwent brain surgery and it turned me into a psychopath, I know my family would consider me dead, what was left of me would be a monster, and a totally different person.

That's how vampires work on Buffy.

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There's some follow up. But there will be spoilers, and Redrum is not allowed to read them

It's not exactly been spelled out that way. But it's what makes the slayer different from anyone who wants to fight vampires. Therefore, every potential slayer can not have the powers. They get them as soon as they are choosen as the slayer.

1. This is what I've gotten from the show and from the official books. Seems to carry the same spirit of what you're saying, but lends to a change in the body on a metaphysical level. In the show's universe, there is an actual change in that something else now inhabits you're body with you. The essence of who you were is gone.

"When you become a vampire, the demon takes your body. But it doesn't get your soul. That's gone. No conscience, no remorse... it's an easy way to live. You have no idea what it's like to have done the things I've done, and to care." Angel, in "Angel"

So, I guess it now becomes what is your take on what a soul is? What is a soul to you? Then that's how you view it. I see a soul a part of who I am. I think that you do lose a piece of yourself and that in exchange you get a piece of the demon. You actually become part demon.

"The books tell that the last demon to leave this reality fed off a human, mixed their bood. He was a human form possessed - infected - by the demon's soul." Giles "The Harvest"

"Xander, listen to me. Jesse is dead. You have to remember that if you see him. You're not looking at your friend. You're looking at the thing that killed him." Giles, "The Harvest"

"A vampire isn't a person at all. It may have the movements, the memories, even the personality, of the person it takes over, but it is a demon at the core. There's no halfway." Giles "Angel"


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2. In "Faith, Hope and Trick" when we meet Faith, she indicates that she's been fighting vampires for longer than the few months that had past since she would have been activated when Kendra was killed. Kendra was killed in May/June and we meet Faith in Sept/Oct. She talks about the bus of Baptists that breaks down when she was living in Boston and wrestling aligators down south. The tone of it was that she had been using her power longer than the few months she was activated. When she described the bus incident she commented on the heatwave that summer in Boston. It made it sound like that it was prior to the summer that had just passed. It also gave the perception that the alligator thing took place at another point in time.

This is a figure of speach... the essence of you is gone because it has become so distorted. That's why.

Your soul is gone, a demon soul comes in, demon desires come in and they totally change you. It makes you a new person. Joss Whedon has said in interviews that a soul is not who you are, it's what guides you. Vampire souls guide you to want to do evil things. Want to enjoy evil things. A human soul makes you want to do what's right. So it effects who you are, but it isn't who you are.

The problem here is that Giles is trying to make it easier to kill a vampire. Vampire Jesse behaved like Jesse, he knew who Jesse was, he knew what Jesse wanted... but he had no soul so he TOTALLY changed. That's why they can act so different, that's why they're considered possessed by a demon.


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It's hard to say. Because she never says when it took place. We don't know if it took place and we don't even know if she was telling the truth. Remember she was on the run during this time period.

Also not that Faith was trained to be a slayer from a younger age. She was found as a potiential, and was trained. It is entierly possible that she was doing these things without aid of her slayer powers.

Furthermore, I think it's possible she did it over that summer anyways...

But here's a few questions...

If all slayers have powers before they become the offical slayer, then what makes them the offical slayer?

How many of them are there? no one knows when a slayer is going to die so there would be have to be thousands of girls, all with powers, at any given time. What happens if they're all killed? they just run out of slayers and wait for the next to be born with powers?

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Hey BizRodian! Thanks for popping in.

A couple more questions...

WARNING, THESE QUESTIONS MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!

Is there more to the principal than meets the eye? I am assuming this is something that is covered in season 3?

Is Spike around for the long haul? From the moment he stepped into the Buffy universe, it was a different tone. Both Dru and Spike are amazing, not only the characters, but the actors who portray them. I would have never have guessed they are American.

Since the original curse on Angel was to remember everything he had done, since the curse was reapplied will he remember how he treated Buffy and what he did to Jenny? It's no big secret that he will be coming back seeing that he has his own show. I'm just interested on how he is brought back.

Will the Demon that helped Buffy and (originally) Angel be back? I'm just curious because I like the character and the actor who plays him.

As far as Surprise and Innocence...

Wow. When Angel ran into the rain I was like WTF??? Then after he did what he did I was even more confused. BTW, him blowing out the smoke was a great scene.

It was sad because in Innocence, he nailed A-Hole. Nailed it. I have to give him credit because he is completely believable as either good Angel or Bad Angel. Bad Angel is a complete a-hole. He's barely likeable (unlike Spike, where evil is cool ) .

Which reminds me, the scene with Spike and Buffy's mom in the living room is an absolute classic. WTF is up with her mom.

Basically, he knows Sunnydale is a hellmouth. I belive this is shown when he talks to the police officer in.. which episode was that? think it was I Only Have Eyes For You... the police officer also knew it was on a hellmouth. So why is this? hmmm? find out a bit about Sunnydale's goverment in the next season.

It is incredibly WEIRD to heard them speak with their real accents.

Spike and Dru are gone for now though. But Spike will make a few guest spots and eventually he'll be back. Actually, that's when I think the series starts to die. I'm not even watching it next season.

Yes, he will. Remember when he was first cursed he wondered what the hell happened to himself. The gypsy said to think... and suddenly everything came back to him. Getting your soul back disorientates you I guess.

As to where Angel is, and how he comes back... well...

The buffyverse is made up of different dimensions. In most of these dimensions, demons rule it, they run it and make it their home. Dimensions are not paralel universes or anything though. They just other worlds. They're like differen't planets. What Angelus was trying to do was MERGE earth with another dimension, a hell dimension (terrifing dimensions run by demons are known as hell dimensions because they would be exactly the way hell would be if such a place exists.)

The Master, in season one was trying to do the exact same thing if you recall, but he was trying to do it by rasing the hellmouth creature. The Master is a traditional vampire and he belives in demon superiority. He wants the earth to be returned to the way it was thousands of years ago, when demons ruled. This is why he was trying to merge dimensions.

Angelus was trying to do it because of partly the same reason... he was made by Darla, who was part of The Master's order, so he had a lot of the values of The Master's order. But he also did it because he just likes suffering, and seeing such a thing happen would just make his happy...

Spike on the otherhand, was pretty much always his own man, and doesn't give a damn about the old ways and stuff. He just wants to eat and be merry.

Anyways, Acathla's mouth was opened, and the two dimensions began to merge. The only way to seal this portal was with Angel's blood, and if Angel's blood touched the portal, then Angel would be sucked in to the other dimension.

No, metal can't kill a vampire except through decapitation. So Angel is not dead. Basically, Angel, right now, is in hell. And I don't think a creature with a human soul would be treated very well in hell.

How he exactly comes back is a bit tricky, and actually, still much of a mystery. But I'll put it this way. Remember how The Powers That Be sent Whistler to get Angel off his ass and go help Buffy? Well The Powers aren't done with Angel. He's a "player" so to speak, and they need him. Just like they needed him to help Buffy.

Whistler is never seen again. In his own series though, another demon is sent by the powers to help him though. For a time anyways... I belive it was originally planned to be Whistler during the series, but they couldnt' get the actor.

Yeah. He's great. Surprise had it's problems I thought... but Innocence is incredibly good.

Lots of people consider Boreanz to be a terrible actor. I just don't see it. He wasn't great to start with, but he carried his own, and by the end of season 2 he's just incredible. The guy was "discovered" by an agent while walking his dog. Kind of funny... he never was planning on being an actor from what I understand.

Spike's great. He's a real bastard, but he's very likable at the same time. He can shock you by how cruel he is, and his reasons for doing anything (he only tried to stop the end of the world because, well, he was jelous of Angel.) But you can't help but like the guy.

Thanks again Biz! I'm sure I will have more questions when I re-watch some of the episodes.

OK, why the hell don't the cops pull over the vampires when they are driving around during the day?

I mean, I get a reckless driving ticket just for speeding. Hell, at least I can see through the window.

Do they have x-ray vision?

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All this season 2 talk, and no mention of Passion......
Alien redrum, What did you think about Passion, the episode where Jenny Calender dies. I'm rewatching the whole series all over again and I thought this episode was the best episode early on. What's everyone else's opinion?

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I was pretty disappointed. I was really starting to get attached to her character (especially the relationship between her and Giles). Then bam! Gone. Angel was a mean SOB in that one.

And ever since that episode, until it was found, I kept thinking about the floppy.

On one hand it's too bad they offed such a great character, but on the other I'm glad they did. It shows that they are going to do whatever it takes to make a good show and draw a reaction from you.

I was pretty pissed when she was offed. Especially since it was so anticlimatic. But I wasn't pissed in a bad way. It's hard to explain. I think the whole thing was handled very well.

And it was really good what Angel did with her after he killed her. Man, what a set up. They (meaning the writers/producers) not only killed her, but they one upped the ante' by the placement of the body.

As terrible the outcome, that was a helluva an episode.

Yeah, Passion is the best.

Cops probably do pull over Spike... they just tend to get killed I'm sure.

How he drives is a very good question though I'm guessing the black is just like a really really strong sunglass type thing that he can see through, but doesn't let in enough direct sunlight to kill him. Remember, vampires aren't effected by amibiant sunlight. Just if it's coming directly from the sun. (Meaning they can hide in the shade.)

The whole "pissed, but not in a bad way" feeling is what is called passion. Very clever episode title.