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24 - Hour 2

Old 11-14-01, 06:46 PM
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24 - Hour 2

Figured I'd start a new thread for each episode since that other thread's gonna get too long if we keep adding to it...

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Well, this was a GREAT episode. The first one did a good job of setting everything up and letting you get to know the characters and the plot. This is the one that gets the action going, and starts to raise your curiosity as to who the bad guys are and what their motivation is.

I keep getting the distinct feeling that this is going to be a really really layered story. Even the bad guys plans didn't go according to plan when that girl refused to hand over the real key card.

Jack's discovery of the owner of the computer terminal at the end was another well done twist. I never suspected it. Everything kept pointing to that other guy on his team which made me NOT suspect him, but I never thought of Nina. BUT, they did end it there. Woo...I'm beginning to love this show - it keeps you guessing...
Old 11-14-01, 07:35 PM
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I don't believe it's Nina though. I think somebody probably just got her information and put it on the card. But I'm sure Jack will confront her and she will be pissed but eventually they will make up.
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I actually guessed at Nina being the person on the card, but I also think that she's not really a traitor or anything like that. I'm thinking it's just some wacky misunderstanding. Those wacky computers.

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Are they going to explain what Jack discovered regarding the source of the disk that Mason gave him? They spent a good part of the first episode showing Jack obtain this info (the whole tranquilizer, blackmailing thing) but, unless I missed it, the show has yet to develop that point anymore.

Also, is the key card that Baylor gives to Walsh (just before Baylor gets shot) supposed to be the same card that was taken from the desert? or are we supposed to know for sure yet?
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Originally posted by caiman
Are they going to explain what Jack discovered regarding the source of the disk that Mason gave him? They spent a good part of the first episode showing Jack obtain this info (the whole tranquilizer, blackmailing thing) but, unless I missed it, the show has yet to develop that point anymore.

Also, is the key card that Baylor gives to Walsh (just before Baylor gets shot) supposed to be the same card that was taken from the desert? or are we supposed to know for sure yet?
I don't think they are the same card, 'cuz one is a press card and the other is a key card.
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Originally posted by huzefa


I don't think they are the same card, 'cuz one is a press card and the other is a key card.
yeah, that's what i interpreted it as too. the key card is access into government buildings. the press card is for the bad guys to get close to the senator.
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Can anyone explain the reason why the lady jumped out of the plane, buried the press pass, and then went to the same place as the girl who picked up the press pass? The guy was obviously in a hurry to get the pass since one of his first questions was, "When do I get my pass?" Why the extra person?

I can never remember Jack's boss' name, but he seems really stupid to me. When Jack arrived at that building where the boss was shot, Jack says, "Are they armed?" The boss says, "I couldn't tell." What do you mean he couldn't tell? He knows at least one of them is armed since he was shot and the other guy was killed. Not to mention the fact that I'm pretty sure that when he called Jack he told Jack that he was taking fire from some people, so why would Jack even ask this question?

Anyway, I don't think he's really dead; I think he is in on the whole thing and is setting Nina up. I think that when the people show up to collect the two dead bodies that his won't be there.
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I guess it's because it's 2am in the morning, but I find myself very tired of this show already. Maybe I'm not awake yet.

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The only good thing is that I find Kim (Jack's daughter) to be a cute blonde hottie, and Mandy (Mia Kirshner) also to be a femme fatale hottie. I'm just wondering if I'll lose interest by the time day breaks in this show...
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Originally posted by StarWarsBoy
Can anyone explain the reason why the lady jumped out of the plane, buried the press pass, and then went to the same place as the girl who picked up the press pass? The guy was obviously in a hurry to get the pass since one of his first questions was, "When do I get my pass?" Why the extra person?
My thought on this, was that she was supposed to leave the house, and have the 3rd person deliver teh card after she took the money. I mean they blew up a plane, why would they just hand her cash and let her bolt.

I think she appeared to like the photographer person and with the plastic surgery the bad guy looked like him, I assume it was the same actor.

So she decides to stay and trust them, and when the other girl her partner comes in she hands him a pic of the keycard. But gets greedy I think...
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Originally posted by StarWarsBoy
Can anyone explain the reason why the lady jumped out of the plane, buried the press pass, and then went to the same place as the girl who picked up the press pass? The guy was obviously in a hurry to get the pass since one of his first questions was, "When do I get my pass?" Why the extra person?
It's because there's no way to tell an interesting story that spans 24 hours without making up a bunch of contrived nonsense. They still have to come up with 22 hours of story. If the characters acted sensibly, most of that time would be filled with the bad guys sitting around waiting and smoking.

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Originally posted by das Monkey


It's because there's no way to tell an interesting story that spans 24 hours without making up a bunch of contrived nonsense. They still have to come up with 22 hours of story. If the characters acted sensibly, most of that time would be filled with the bad guys sitting around waiting and smoking.

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...or surfing for porn.

So, doesn't anyone had any sensible theories about the young punks that have kidnapped Kim and her ruffi-ed girl friend? What's their connection to the whole thing? Are they somehow connected with using Kim to get Jack to back off his investigation?
Sounds like one hell of a contingency plan.
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A rumor I heard a long time ago about this series was that

**WARNING: MAJOR PLOT POINT RUMOR**
Spoiler:
the bad guys kidnap Jack's daughter, and tell him that if he doesn't assassinate Senator Palmer, they're going to kill his daughter. I'm not sure if this will happen because of the assassins already planning to kill Palmer. However, it looks like there is already tension in the group planning to kill Palmer. What if everyone in the group turns against each other, and they're not able to carry out their mission? Maybe the people who hired the assassins... the same people who have Jack's daughter, possibly?... try to use Jack as a "Plan B" assassin.


We'll see, though!

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Burying the key was meant to keep her in control of the situation. That backfired when her gal pal wanted more money.
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Originally posted by G. Noel Gross
Burying the key was meant to keep her in control of the situation. That backfired when her gal pal wanted more money.
Exactly. She doesn't just show up with the key because for all she knows they'll just kill her and take they key without paying. (after all, they were willing to sacrifice a planeload of people for that key, why not one more person?)

Instead she asks to see the money first, counts it to make sure everything is legit, senses that it is not a trap, and then calls her firend to deliver the key. (This backfires when the friend demands more money.)

Also occurs to me: they could have created this diversion to buy enough time to copy the card, manipulate it, add a tracking device, etc.
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Perhaps put Jack's face on it? {cf. Static Cling's post}


Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if there are much more confusing plot devices yet to come, all answered in subsequent episodes, to allow more headscratching cliff-hangers.

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Originally posted by Patman
So, doesn't anyone had any sensible theories about the young punks that have kidnapped Kim and her ruffi-ed girl friend? What's their connection to the whole thing? Are they somehow connected with using Kim to get Jack to back off his investigation? Sounds like one hell of a contingency plan.
Doubtful, since he isn't asssigned to the task until after his daughter has made plans to meet the guys, but still certainly possible. Static Cling's spoiler seems more likely, but I'm reserving judgement...
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I'm still in on this show!

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